PS3 Comprehensive list of PS3 YLoD/RLoD Causes

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    List of known causes of YLoD

    Bad PSU (Power Supply Unit)
    CELL BGA Solder Points (Overheated)
    RSX BGA Solder Points (Overheated)
    Degraded/Faulty NEC/Tokin Capacitors
    Destroyed PCB Traces
    Missing component

    If you know of any confirmed definite causes of YLoD/RLoD post them.

    I'm hoping to gather any of the more minor ones and create a more or less complete list.
     
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    RSoD is different from YLoD/RLoD. From the sounds of it exclusively harddrive and flash storage problems.
     
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    RLOD - flashing red light of death> loaders stage error> Corrupted CoreOS files or imporper Lv0ldrs .< could only be caused by an HDD corruption on NOR consoles as NAND the firmware is all on the 2 NAND chips.

    This is what happens when people screw up installing CFW during the patching and flashing part as it's the CoreOS and Lv0ldrs that are patched. Or people that like to mess about with things they know nothing about like messing with dev_flash files.

    Basically RLOD is more or less a bricked PS3.
     
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    Discard the Solder Balls, i explained a billion gajillion times, its not the issue, unless they are damaged from corrosion, even by overheating the machine its not enough to make a dent in the joints.

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    God.. I just got my CECHA unit imported, thinking is was a YLOD unit. But no, three red flashes and beeps... I have a E3 programmer, but I have no idea what to make of it?
     
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    The real root cause is almost always heat and its negative effect on components, Sometimes so simple that its forgotten.

    Depending who you talk to they say that between 10 to 15 degrees of a decrease in temperature doubles the life of many electronic components. So even 1 degree of a difference could be adding months to the life in theory.

    Of course you get faulty components, but even the limited life of a faulty component is still impacted by heat.

    As far I know you cant do NAND consoles with an e3, there is no clip or software. You need a Teensy or a progskeet.
     
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    Yes, you're right. Used it for a couple of NOR 25xx models before CFW using webkit exploit was a thing.

    I wonder, even if I ever had a teensy and read the NAND, is there software to repair if it's corrupt?
    I have no problem doing the soldering job and reading/writing the nand.
     
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    There is software yes, and you can take most of someone elses dump from the same model and use it on your console if you needed to. There is just a small bit of unique data that you need to retain from your own dump and that is normally never overwritten.
     
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    Great! Any recommend place to get these? eBay is my main source usually.
     
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    @DeViL303
    Hi. So I did a little read-up and the Teensy++ 2.0 seems to be the more cost effective way route, it seem to be as good as the progskeet too.

    Would you go the 360clip-route or just straight up solder to the NAND?
    I also have a cheap hot-air/rework station, but judging how close some passives are to the chip this might not be the best idea.
     
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    i use the 360 clip and it works great with the teensy on NANDs. i do also use some plastic quick release clamps to help it read too (Not always needed but some boards can be a pain to read lol so some very slight persuasion can be used haha), as long as u make the small mods to the clip so it clears a couple SMD components itself u will be fine. if u get a bad read its generally that the clip isnt sitting right but u will know as soon as u try to read the dump.
     
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    I have not ever done a NAND so can't help too much. But I normally get stuff like that on ebay, or aliexpress if I am not in a hurry.

    Personally I would use the clip as I am not good enough at soldering yet. If I was able to solder a teensy in I would probably do a permanent install on my NAND just in case. :)
     
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    Thanks guys @wrx884 @DeViL303 !
    So it seems like I'll just make myself a "T-flasher". Too bad that 360 clip is so expensive, it's like $36 + shipping + custom fees for me!
     
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    u can solder if ur up to it? soldering will be more reliable but its just very time consuming and can get messy and look over whelming after haha so if this will be a one off time mayb give this a shot if costs are an issue and time isnt?. If ur going to use the 360 clip often enough it will pay for itself if u buy a couple consoles and then "cough cough" gave them away hahaha.
     
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    Yeah you're probably right, I've seen some images of the mess now.
    While I'm no stranger to these mods I don't enjoy spending two evenings soldering for just 1 out of 2 NAND reads.

    If there is anyone on this forum that wants to swap my unopened E3 NOR flasher kit (I have a spare that I never opened) for any kind of used 48-pin NAND kit, I'm all for it!

    EDIT: Hell, I'd even swap the whole E3 kit for just the 360-clip alone
     
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    Let's just say I wont be doing any NAND dumps anytime soon:
    [​IMG]
    As you can see the reason for RLOD is because the prior owner delided the unit with a hacksaw. What a bummer... and waste of a good old CECHA01 unit
     
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    This one takes the crown @Cypher_CG89, a bloody hacksaw, much more lethal than my Kitchen Knife



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    Haha your not off the hook yet lad... your still the "Kitchen Knife PS3 Killer King" in my eyes...:oie 19113229e8ymug9p: this is just a different kind of stupidity someone has gone to de-liding.... are they related to you by any chance...? :rolling::rolling::rolling:
     
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    Well the hacksaw is just speculation on my part since I imported the unit from eBay, I guess the person easily poped of the IHS of the RSX with a screwdriver, then went full retar* on the CELL thinking it should be just a easy. Depressing
     

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