PS3 Exfat Support

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    Since modern OS and the PS4 uses EXFAT format system


    I wonder if it is possible to make it compatible with the ps3

    At least with Multiman/webman


    Since many people have both ps3 and ps4, it would be interresting to use an external HDD for both systems.

    E.g i have 2 external HDDs connected to my ps3 and other 2 to my ps4

    So everytime i want to install a game, i need to remove one of the ps3 ones, make the disc dump, backup the hdd, format it to EXFAT, copy the game dump, hook it to the ps4 and install the pkg. ( ignoring the possibility to remote install)

    and reverse all of this to the ps3 again.

    since NTFS was not supported and @deank made it possible

    Can exfat be the same?

    I know Managunz supports ext2 or ext3 partitions
     
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    i found a program for hardrive that tricks the ps3 its a fat 32 (not a virus) multiman and webman detects it

    http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm
     
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    No it's not, its an FAT32 formatting tool, PS3's can read FAT32 External devices without anything extra. It in no way "tricks" anything.
     
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    hes talking about exfat.. when i plugged my hardrive into my ps3 it wouldnt detect exfat or ntfs.. it says "unknown device has been connected". this fat32 formatter worked and helped me out alot. stuff transfers faster and is more reliable then a USB stick.:-p
     
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    You are just formatting the device to a ps3 known format (FAT32) it can be easily done within windows format tools

    what i'm talking is the ability for the multiman/webman scan EXFAT drivers, so both ps3 and ps4 can read it and share the same external device between them
     
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    What are you talking about....? Seriously.... I know exactly what hes going on about but your saying this app tricks the PS3 so you can use exFAT when in fact all it does is format the HDD from exFAT ( or any other format ) to FAT32.

    There are loads of better tools than this > "MiniTool Partition Wizard" being one of them.

    The USB transfer rate is determined by the USB BUS used, not by the device connected to it alone.

    That is for NTFS on MultiMAN NOT exFAT!!!!
     
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    I mean, everythings possible. :D
     
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    @LuanTeles We don't have NTFS write support, and read only even outside few specific homebrew, and You dreaming about internal fs support hooking? ;) Who would write from scratch whole exFAT for CellOS? That's not gonna happen. Would be great... We don't have that even in PS2 which is far longer on the scene, far cheaper, far easier to hack and where exFAT would solve once and for all all USB disc image limited size issue.
     
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    IRISMAN can dump ISO's directly to NTFS> therefore is "writing to NTFS" even if its limited to ISO's.
     
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    Lot of ppl are asking this. So, I made some research on google to find a lib that can be ported without too much difficulties.
    I found several but the most promising is probably this one : http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/00index_e.html
    With one quick look on source, I think it's possible to port it by just editing the file diskio.c with sys_storage functions and it should be done... Do not ask me to do it, i'm busy with something else but I think it can be done by anybody ^^'
     
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    So there is a light in the tunnel! Even if codebase is not fully fresh (as it was done based on leaked Samsung module, but last time MS freed exFAT providing documentation).

    @Cypher_CG89 My bad. Thanks for correction, it looks like I'm stuck on mM era. ^^
     
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    @Berion webmanmod also has write access to ntfs, at least from ftp
     
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    So it calls for @aldostools or @deank <3
     
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    Awesome find :applause:
    The sentence where it tells that is intended "for small embedded systems" is making me wonder if it could have better performance than the actual NTFS/EXT implementation in ManaGunZ
     
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    I suppose it would perform better.
     
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    is it possible to make the ps3 recognize?
     
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    The NTFS/EXT driver was made originally for WII, estwald ported it to iris, then it was ported to cobra
    The EXT support was added because estwald thought there was some shared code in between NTFS and EXT, so estwald considered it was ok to add it because it was not going to cause problems
    The iris forks (like irisman and managunz) inherited the driver

    In total, since the driver was ported to PS3 there has not been more than 3 or 4 persons updating it
    But the exFAT code from the link looks like it had a lot of people involved, probably is bug free and stable, and the fact is promoted "for embedded devices" probably means it has a nice performance

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    To integrate the driver inside iris and managunz is needed to do the same implementation made by estwald with the NTFS/EXT driver... actually i guess it would be needed to build the exFAT code around it

    But a exFAT driver initiated by cobra is a different story, is more tricky, and would require to update cobra source code
     
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    an ExFat support would be very good for sure.
     

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