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    if i Delid could that make ylod faster then any thing or not
     
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    Delid is to avoid ylod. You need to do that because the thermal compound under IHS just become dry after some time (usually 6~8 years). So, basically delid, clean old thermal compound, apply new thermal compound.
     
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    yeah my ps3 is 11 years old now i guess it needs delid but what is the best thermal compound that can handle the heat of my ps3?
     
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    It depends on what you prefer,low price,dissipation performance,or a balance of both.
    For performance i would recommend:
    Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

    For a more balanced price/performance there are a lot of good pastes out there:
    Arctic silver 5
    Arctic MX-2
    Noctua NT-H1
    there are a lot more pastes in this category to recommend.

    For low priced cheap thermal pastes there is nothing i recommend.
     
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    Arctic Silver 5 is the best cooling solution. Extreme Fusion X1 is also good.

    Edit: wowwww, @Vishera is right, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is the best. I just didn't know that.
     
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    Also there is a huge risk in delidding...Killing the CPU and the GPU,
    One scratch even to the pcb can sever traces,
    Do it at your own risk.

    I have a launch model PS3 and never delidded it,
    70c RSX 75c CPU,
    As long as you have a clean system,and tweak the fan speed right,it should have enough airflow to cool it down with bearable noise.

    There is also room temperature and the thermal paste as factors.
     
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    thanks for the help my friends
     
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    i heard that i can't use Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut can't be used with ps3 because it's liquid metal and it's true that i can use small copper with thermal compound
     
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    Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is not liquid metal rest assured,



    However,Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut is liquid metal,

    The two thermal solutions have similar names but are totally different.
     
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    can you ex plane the different please
     
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    they're made from different materials/mixtures of materials.conductonaut is mixture of metals (gallium mostly) thus highly electrically conductive (thus the name of the product) and kryonaut is mostly made from typical stuff for thermal compounds with admixture of nano particles of metal oxides and thus isn't electrically conductive.

    liquid metals (like conductonaut,liquid metal pro,etc) are the most thermally conductive stuff there is,but they're somewhat more difficult to work with than typical thermal compound,especially if you don't have experience in working with it,and are highly electrically conductive thus you're in real danger of damaging your stuff if you don't know what are you doing,think of them like trying to dampen surface of something with water and you must dampen every bit of the surface to ensure proper application.also,they're expensive.

    high level thermal compounds (kryonaut,NH-1,prolimatech pk1,etc) aren't electrically conductive thus are safe to apply thus easier to work with even for beginners,as there's no risk of things shorting out when applying it,and you can overshoot the quantity with no real risk for the system.also,as a material they're far easier to work with,think of them like applying a small drop of toothpaste to surface of material.typically they're cheaper (even high level stuff like kryonaut) and more readily available and depending where you live good stuff can even be at local computer shop in stock for you to pick up.

    there's no consensus on liquid metal and ps3 even just for replacing the TIM between IHS and the chips themselves as mounting mechanisms of the ps3 aren't that tight and more importantly there's a gap between IHS and RSX core on majority of ps3 models thus using liquid metal won't be effective.

    delid especially on the Cell should be handled by a professional or at least someone with enough experience in doing it as it's almost guaranteed to damage the Cell die and neighboring chips in first couple of tries and thus causing a hardware brick/damage.if you still plan on doing it yourself it's recommended that you get couple of dead ps3 boards to practice as in most areas dead ps3 boards are a plenty and they can be had for dirt cheap.even then it's recommended to first delid your RSX as it's way,way easier and safer.detailed video guides can be found on the net,they're mostly the same.
     
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    True,
    I didn't delid my launch model unit and my temps are fine in 35c ambient.
    But there is evidence that in my case the dry thermal paste underneath the IHS stil transfers heat well enough for some reason...
     
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    so can i use Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut with my ps3 even when i delid it and can i use cooper plats with it?
     
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    yes,kryonaut does't even pit cooper,there's no adverse effects on using it on copper.only conductonaut and simillat liquid metals can't be used on aluminium heatsinks.
     
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    ok so that mean i should buy Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and i can use it without far but where i can find cooper plats
     
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    there isn't any well known thermal compound that have too bad effects on copper,liquid metal pits it somewhat over very long periods of time but doesn't have any meaningful effect on it so who cares.
     
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    ok thanks
     
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    You can use the original "plate" if you want,
    I belive it is made of nickel.

    Nickel IHSes are common,All brand new processors come with nickel or nickel plated IHS.
    Also there is the risk of galvanic action with bare/pure copper if paired with aluminium heatsink,
    Which i suspect is the material the PS3 heatsink is made of.
     
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    ihs is cooper not aluminium
     
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    The problem happens with copper IHS.


    Simply put:
    Copper IHS
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    Aluminium heatsink
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    Risk of galvanic action
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