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    Okay , so i have been thinking about it lol its just a suggestion so please dont get mad at me..

    Can developers create something that replaces silk_webkit.sprx in 4.83 with the one present in 4.82 which would also help them create exploits for future firmwares ?

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    I was actually thinking of that since that would be a way easier method than to create a whole new xploit supporting 4.83 as base.
    But then again, heard it almost everywhere they were working on exploiting 4.83. They also delayed v4 tools for it :/
     
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    That 100% works and has been tested, the issue is, how do we get 4.82 webkit onto 4.83+ ofw, once we can do that it's game over for Sony, but.. We need another exploit to do that :) so chicken/egg situation.
     
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    then it is possible to create a modified PUP for PS3 OFW and install later versions without losing access to the exploit? Correct me if I misunderstand.
     
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    I don't think custom made PUP update files will install on OFW consoles. As far as I know they install on patched consoles only (jailbroken consoles only). Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Edit: if I'm not mistaken the way they changed the WebKit file was by swapping HDDs that had the files already in there.
     
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    This is my doubt.
     
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    I mean, I'm pretty sure OFW consoles check for a signature or something when updating, and the custom made PUP won't have that signature, so it won't install. But as I said before, I may be wrong hahaha
     
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    Corect..
     
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    So how would that be? I'm very curious and excited !!
     
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    No, you can not modify even one 1 or 0 in a PUP for OFW, CFW is patched to allow modified files to run.

    There is a way to get 4.82 webkit on 4.84, but its tricky, and you must be on 4.82 to do it. So not really worth it as you can hack 4.82 already. Also if you do the trick to get 4.82 webkit onto 4.84 OFW, then if anything happens to your 4.84 FW files, and you soft brick, for example you flash a dodgy lines.qrc, you would only be able to install 4.84 OFW or higher to fix it So its not practical for anyone to use really on a big scale.
     
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    Would it be the HDD exchange method?
     
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    Yes, but there is a lot more to it than just swapping hdds, but yes, you could call it that.

    Without going into too much detail as its not something people should be trying really.
    • You inject some 4.84 files onto 4.82 that spoof the hdd (virtual flash partition really) so it thinks vflash is on 4.84
    • When you reboot, this breaks the current install and throws you into safe mode as coreOS is still 4.82
    • Then you take out hdd and put in another, format it, update to 4.84 for real.
    • Put back in the spoofed 4.84 (really 4.82) hdd that contains the 4.82 webkit on vflash
    • Now you have hybrid 4.82/4.84 OFW.

    Few notes about this method, it wont work on NAND consoles as they don't have vflash on the hdd, all firmware is on the flash on those, so swapping hdds will not effect them. If anything goes wrong in process and you soft brick, you wont be able to hack it anymore and will have to install 4.84 OFW. There is no advantage to doing this except that you wont have to use a proxy to sign in afterwards.. so really, no point imo.
     
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    already saw you mention this method in another post, there is also the danger of a flash problem and the system require the installation of 4.84 correct?
     
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    It was esc0rd3w that detailed it first. Yes, if anything goes wrong during hacking process, or at ANY time in the future, you will have no choice but to install OFW.

    And literally only removes need for proxy, nothing else changes. Sony did not add any new features, and there are no new games requiring 4.84 afaik, they only patched security flaws, So what you end up with is tricking console into updating without patching the security flaws, so essentially the only change is the version number in system information and a lot of added risk to change it.
     
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    really not worth it.
     
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    Not anymore is it?
     
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    Hey, it took 2019 to find out. don't quote him :P
     
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    No :) I guess its ok to modify them as long as the 1s and 0s are created by Sony originally. But still its true that if you modify one 1 or 0 it will fail check, BUT if you have magic on your side. then its good :)
     
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    I have a wild one.... what are the chances of having a proxy in HAN toolbox ?:concern:
     

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