PS3 New multiMAN version

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    It looks like according to this site new multiMAN versions are out. May I install Unofficial multiMAN 4.84 HEN on Rebug 4.84.2 CEX or I might have problems (since this version might be for HEN only)? Also, why isn't a multiMAN 4.84 version released for HAN/CFW?
     
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    It's just 4.82 fixed by @Joonie found HERE and it's not HEN exclusive and not a real update. The source code is closed and until @deank releases it or makes a comeback that is as good as it gets.
     
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    It provides 0 additional benefit for CFW users. (it just works as good as what you are using)
     
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    Ok, thanks.
     
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    I’ll have to check about net view.bin. MM carries some other versions inside the code (not depending on the data2 files). I thought it was cex signed but I’ll take a look and release the update.

    Is there a proper way to recognize HEN mode so nothing cex related is broken?


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    Hi Dean, when I checked it, it was fself so it would cause shutdown on PS3HEN since fself isn't supported.

    for detecting HEN, we currently use these opcodes.

    https://github.com/PS3Xploit/PS3HEN/blob/master/payload/main.c#L1520

    also, please avoid lv1/lv2 pokes for HEN if possible since HEN has a full control of these pokes and LV1 peek/poke isn't supported...
     
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    Just to make sure: may I install the unofficial 4.84 HEN version on Rebug 4.84.2 CEX? Since you're multiMAN's developer, will you release a version for + 4.82 CFW?
     
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    Hi Dean,
    I cannot enable "Direct Disc Access" in multiMAN mode on my HEN Super-Slim in order to dump RAW ISOs.
    Error: This operation is not allowed.
    Can this be fixed?
     
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    It requires LV1 access.


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    It's like he said but I do know they are/were working on getting lvl1 access. It would allow some other stuff like Linux as well. But for now HEN only has userland access and lvl2. Lvl1 might be possible but I don't think we are ever gonna get lvl0 access.
     
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    Considering this is protected by the metldr2 now on newer consoles, so unless some either gets the private keys from 3.60 up or cracks ECDSA encryption there is next to no chance of it.

    Access to the Lv0 loaders on metldr2 PS3's would most likely make HEN obsolite as this is where the main CoreOS patches are mainly apllied to bypass the ECDSA encryption, and allow CFW to be used.
     
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    That's why I say I doubt we will ever get it. When properly implemented ECDSA has never been cracked in any application in over 30 years. Safe to say the PS3's with mtldr2 are unhackable with any current setup.
     
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    If it did get cracked we all would be in deep sh!t with what ECDSA encryption also is used it..... And I doubt [email protected] will make another f^ck up by sending someone the master usb jig with all the keys on for PS3 seeing as they are not manufactured anymore .... we can always hope... it maybe a fools hope but it's still there.
     
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    :rolleyes2:
     
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    Hello @deank so you really are interested in doing a new update for the multiman?
     
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    Well they didn't send a jig with all the keys. The jig allowed lvl2 userland access. From there it was reversed into the first payload. Then came CFW with lvl1 access. From there is was nothing but math cracked Sony's protection. Sony never leaked the keys themselves. At this point they hid lvl0 (and the keys within) behind metldr2. Otherwise they would have to recall ALL hardware and any old games would cease to work as they couldn't blacklist the old keys. This is why resigning for HEN works as after lvl0 is loaded it doesn't check or block them as all software prior to 3.60 would cease to work. That would be a lawsuit no one could survive.
     
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    remember this? https://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/ps3-jailbreak-code-retweeted-by-sonys-kevin-butler-no-punchl/

    lmao!
     
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    Sure do!! I recall for YEARS no one could even gain userland access but once that infamous jig went out, lvl2 allowed access to lvl1.

    Then the Musketeers were able to derive the keys. Had that 4.21 CFW with their own DRM had not of came out we wouldn't even have public Access to those master keys. Only a few had access to them to release 3.60+ eboot fixes. But they had to get greedy.

    As if the true blue dongle wasn't enough the Blue Disk CFW was a joke. But do you recall how hard it was to crack the True Blue encryption? Hell even some of the cheat dongles haven't been cracked. But I am sure they would have if Sony hadn't made them useless prior to 4.30.

    The PS3 has seen it's fair share of feats overcome official and otherwise.
     
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    May I install the unofficial 4.84 HEN version on Rebug 4.84.2 CEX and will it be released a version for +4.82 CFW?
     

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