PS3 or PS2 to play PS2 games

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    Is it best to use a CFW PS3 or to use a FreeMCBoot PS2 to play PS2 and PS1 games?
    Like is there enough compatibility on the PS3 to be able to play most games?
     
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    I was using Fmcb for some years, I never had any issue. You can play all games that way. On the PS3 however a lot of games do not work. Best thing to do imo, if you have both consoles connected at the same time and you don't have to switch cables all the time, is to play all supported games on PS3 and the ones that do not play, on the native PS2 console. Been using that configuration a long time now and it is the best.
     
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    PS2 games on PS3 works. No problems.
    Most PS2 speedrunners play on the original console because it's faster.

    Greets.
     
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    PC. ;)
     
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    I got a laptop with Intel Core i5-7200U and Intel HD 620, not really the most capable specs right?
     
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    For development the PS2 Emu is a must. Helped me many times...
    For chilling and gaming, nop! :D
     
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    You need a real GPU...
    ;)
     
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    Yeah, I really do need a real PC. But you know, budget + my parents wont let me buy or build a PC. So its difficult
     
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    Depends on the games you are trying to play.Han and cfw do the job mostly for games i used to play on the ps2 back then.

    If you want a more open library then freemcboot is the way to go or you can just emulate everything on pc.
     
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    And is only way to make legit speedrun..
     
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    It depends on your needs and what you want mate :)

    *Want to play on original hardware,and dont care about the upscaling - Get a Original PlayStation2

    *Want to play on original hardware, but you care about smoothing and upscaling - Get a 20/60Gb PlayStation3 (Maintenance required)

    *Want to play the PS2 library (limited),but you want the 60Gb features - Get a CFW PlayStation3 (praise the Net Emu)

    *Want to play the PS2 library, in 4K glorious - Get a PC :D

    Now you choose by the list:

    Pros & Cons:

    PlayStation 2 (Original Hardware) - Cheap and plenty in the wild - Picture might be outdated,even with component cables.

    PlayStation 3 (20/60Gb) - Excelente upscaling machine to 1080p/ 3 in 1 machine - Expensive to get and requires maintenance or you can say goodbye, better for collective purposes.

    PlayStation 3 (CFW/Non-BC) - Excelente upscaling machine to 1080p, cheap to get any CFW model - Not all games work or even wont work at all. better than nothing at least.

    PCSX2 - Terrific Master Race, 4K 8K 12K you choose - Needs a good PC, some emulation effects in some games (MGS3) doesnt preserve well (no big deal)
     
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    Fat PS2 with FMCB and HDD installed in expansion bay.

    The never ending drive to get image slicker, smoother, super ultra super dooper mega definition is a distraction from what is the essence and necessary for video gaming,

    Good gameplay.

    I played Bubble Bobble, Tetris and Dungeons and Dragons shadow over Mystara yesterday, it was the gameplay that hooked me yesterday and when i first played them, not the image quality.
     
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    Buuuttt buutttt....my TV says 1080p hahahhaahhaha, my miskate mate, thanks for the correction ;)
     
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    co sign, in my experience compatibility is an issue on the ps3...tho thru option file updating a lot can be fixed.
    I bought a cheap phat ps2, a 3rd party sata hdd adapter and that combined with fmcb = plug and play.
     
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    GT4.jpg Ill leave this here for comparison the picture quality on both machines, i know a picture won´t do justice, but for anyone who knows the difference should be obvious ;)

    Both machines were running Gran Turismo 4 (SLES-51719/PAL), running on a PlayStation 2 (SCPH-39004/PAL) at 480p (Component Cables and PlayStation3 (CECH-C04/PAL) at 720p (HDMI).

    I couldnt test the PS2 Cobra Emulation on GT4 but i am sure the results would be similar to a 60Gb ;)
     
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    personally, I'd go with original hardware, but I'm a purist at heart. :D
     
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    And real CPU. ;)

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    @ISAK.M On PS2 You cannot get crisp image on PDP/LCD/OLED screens. Software upscallers are not perfect. Wide screen patchers are also not perfect solution because games wasn't designed in most cases to such proportions.

    On PS3 You cannot launch and finished all games without glitches and headache. You also cannot display properly games because none of the PS2 emus scaling screen by nearest neighbour algorithm.
     
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    If you have a PS2, I'd for sure go with that.
    The PS3 doesn't have the best compatibility, but in my situation it's been a pretty good experience. I don't have a PS2 game system that works however, and this is as of right now my only option.
    Using PCSX2 on PC requires a decent computer, something that may or may not be available. Emulation requires more power than on the target game system, meaning if you have an average home PC bought from walmart, you may be able to get PS2 games to run, but performance will suffer terribly.
    If you do have a decent gaming PC, then this may be your next best option should you not own a PS2.

    Regarding my personal preferences, I prefer any option that allows me to play my games with an actual controller made for a specific console, and an actual TV. It just doesn't feel the same playing console games on a computer monitor.
    (Recent PC's can be connected to modern flat screen TV's via HDMI or a PC Monitor cable.)

    I'm just glad we live in a world where we have all of these possibilities.

    PS1 games usually run great on most modern PC's, even on some dated low-end ones, as well as on PS2 & PS3.
     
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    Totally agree mate, even though the 60Gb seems like the ultimate PS2 machine, hardware-software emulation its not near perfect, some games like Stuntman for example (great game btw) doesn't work properly on the 60Gb, as far as PAL region goes, same with all Ratchet series that use the Kinetica Engine.

    I guess the NTSC 60Gb with full EE+GS don't manifest thoes issues, but even so they are not safe from issues regarding backwards compatibility on a title to title basis :)

    Back in 2006 when the 60Gb was launched, the PS2 Upscaling method was utter crap compared to the original hardware, games would show imperfections and jagged edges, compared to a real PS2, and Sony eventually patched it in firmware 1.50 and improving upon future firmwares.

    Best bet, go with the original hardware, get a cheap HDMI converter and you are pretty much golden. :D

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