PS3 System Restore only reviving one user

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    Hello,

    So, I recently had to change my PS3's board because the old one's bluetooth malfunctioned (had it for about a decade). To install the new board, the hard drive needed to be reformatted. Prior to this, my PS3 had two user accounts; mine, and my brother's (which he rarely uses, nor cares about, and hardly has any save data on it). The reason I went through the trouble of getting this PS3 fixed in the first place was to preserve the save data in my user account.

    Before reformatting, I did a system back-up to an external drive. It took about 20 hours, but appeared to have done its job. Now that I have a working bluetooth again, I did a system restore using the backed up data from said hard drive.

    This is where the problem began. Restore was just a few minutes, compared to the 20 hour back-up process. However, it strangely only restored the stuff from my brother's account and not mine. Had things been the other way round, I wouldn't be looking for a solution and just go on as is.

    I doubt I would've been using his account when making the back-up, but even if I had been, isn't the back-up and restore process supposed to restore everything? I did it once before years ago when I'd changed my hard drive, and was actually surprised to see that literally everything, my user account and my brother's plus all our downloaded games, had been perfectly restored back then. But now I'm fearing my own save data might be lost, and am hoping there's some kind of reason why the restore I'm doing now is incomplete.

    Any help with how I might be able to get my own save data back, or at least some closure if something might have happened during the backing up process which may have messed everything up. Thanks in advance.
     
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    If You change motherboard You have technically different console. System Backup Utility will not restore content which was encrypted by different IDPS and this is why SBU is useless sh*t. However he should restore all accounts but just empty (no saves with CP attribs only unblock saves, no trophies because never restoring trophies, no licenses, and as I remember, no games).

    If You don't have IDPS from old motherboard, then You are unable to get missing data. Anyway, You still can get something just extracting from backup and manually restoring (You need hacked PS3 of course).
     
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    Yeah, I do recall even last time when I restored it, the trophies weren't saved, but that's not a problem; all I needed to do was log into PSN.

    I still find it strange my main account isn't appearing, whereas my brother's one is. His (very few) saves are all there too.

    One other reason I can think of regards a weird issue my PS3 had whenever I use it on a different television. It has a habit of resetting the clock back to when it was reformatted, and when it did this, never let me use my saved data, downloaded games or dlc from after that point in time until I update my time/date settings via internet (manually setting the time/date didn't fix it). The thing is, when my bluetooth was damaged, I couldn't connect to the internet. Now that it's back, my PS3 for some weird reason doesn't detect my internet. It can detect the neighbour's (which I don't have passwords for), but not mine. It just simply won't appear in the list of networks when I scan for one.

    I even updated the system via media storage, but it hasn't fixed the issue with scanning my network. Any idea why this is now happening? No other devices I have (phones, tablet, PS4) are having this problem.
     
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    I managed to get my user account back. It seemed to be something to do with there already being another default user on it. I deleted the extra user, did the restore again, and it finally brought my original user back.

    Haven't fixed the issue of it not detecting my internet, but I managed to do a wired connection instead.

    Now, and hopefully THE last issue; it won't load my save data. It's all there in the storage, but when I tried to open a game, it just says "Save data was made on a different console. Can't load save data. Press the PS button and delete save data".

    Is there ANY way around this at all? Don't know why Sony would bother to make it this difficult to restore your old save files.
     
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    Simply because they want You to pay online service with cloud backup. Just heartless business. That's why users always should hack their consoles and read all possible keys/ids to avoid user/console lock and send big FU regards towards such practice. ;)

    Anyway, saves are tied to specific NP Account ID. If Your console is hacked, edit Your NPAID in xRegistry.sys to match those in save (if You logged into SEN, NPAID will be automatically filled and set to this console user, this overriding user number + console id identification). But hacked console = ban risk, so it is wise to do it by hand.
     
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    Fair enough. That certainly does encourage hacking doesn't it? I've always said that so many moderate corporate schemes encourage piracy (*cough* Microsoft Office *cough*).

    Anyway, I can't do anything like this on it myself, but I know someone who might. I'll have a word with him when I next see him.

    One last related question but regarding the PS4. Now, PS4 handles save back-ups a lot easier in that I can pick the saves/files I want to back-up rather than just grabbing everything as PS3 does. If something similar were to happen to my PS4 and I tried to restore my saves from a usb back onto a "new console", would the same thing happen? Or is it not as problematic on a PS4? Regardless, back-up management does seem 1000 times easier on a PS4. Still, I'd like to be prepared for the worst.
     
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    Use BruteForce Save Data to resign your Save to that console properly so they will work or Install REBUG REX CFW and enable fake save data owner then any save from any console will work and your sorted.
     
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    that's the irony for me. every system I own is hacked or exploited except for the switch. my original switch died (I think I know why), and I lost all saves. the ones that really piss me off are the octopath traveler save (at my last chapter 4 with over 100 hours) and mega man x6 (had 100%, which is frustrating as hell to get without a reploid going missing or dying). I could've saved those saves if I had hacked my system and used checkpoint. this was also a month after nintendo online started, so I could've used cloud saving, which is done automatically when the system goes into sleep mode or you exit out of game. I've tested it with tropical freeze, and it does work without a problem. since you can't store saves on a usb drive like you can with the ps4, nintendo online is really your only option. I miss the days of just needing a memory card.
     

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