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    Slim 2104A
    Is this normal temperature for a 45nm CPU and 40nm RSX

    Fan Control: Syscon

    CPU:66 RSX:67 idle XMB
    CPU:74 RSX:79 30 min in game

    Fan Control: Manual 40% Fan Speed

    CPU:57 RSX:56 idle XMB
    CPU:62 RSX:63 30 min in game

    My Slim 2004B runs cooler with RSX 65nm

    And what is your temps and model?
     
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    The highest temp i get on my 2503B is 50-60c because i have the fan set so that when it reaches that threshold, it kicks the fan up to make sure it doesnt go any higher.
     
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    How about Thermal Paste? Have you ever changed it? Also what is your room temp? Where do you live?

    Stay on Webman auto fan control utility and you will be fine for now.

    Change the thermal paste if you haven't already. If you have a reliable mechanic in your neighborhood, then pay him to do IHS removal, see Youtube videos to know what i am talking about. This will be a permanent fix for overheating.
     
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    Look normal to me
    Just something interesting... by comparing the temperatures of CELL and RSX it can be seen are very close to each other, this is good and it means you dont have a problem located in one of them

    Not sure how to explain this... but there are 4 posible scenarios:
    -1) CELL=fine RSX=problems
    -2) CELL=problems RSX=fine
    -3) CELL=fine RSX=fine
    -4) CELL=problems RSX=problems

    By looking at your numbers we can say with 100% accuracy that you are not in case 1 neither 2 :)

    So... your CELL and RSX both are fine (case 3) or both are bad (case 4)
    Most probably is case 3 ;)
    The reason why CELL and RSX are having a bit high temperatures is because the thermal paste (most probably under IHS) has been degraded a bit... is normal and that degradation doesnt looks excesive, nothing to worry (no need to delid)
     
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    Yes i did changed the thermal paste and my room temperature is around 30° i live in The Netherlands.
     
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    get a decent quality paste (from noctua nt h1 up,i'd even skip mx4) and clean everything and triple check heatsink is making proper contact with IHS's.mounting mechanism on th ps3 is a bit finnicky and you need to ensure proper pressure is applied.

    if it doesn't help i'm afraid only delid will get you going decently quiet on this heats.30c ambient is no joke.
     
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    Stick to manual fan control, these temps are more or less the same as mine and I have fan control set to 38%.

    Fan Control: Manual > 38%

    XMB: CELL>53-55 RSX>54-56
    In game: CELL>62-64 RSX>62-66 ( Depends what game am playing to what they get to but they don't go above 66*C, and this PS3 has never been delided, only a standard thermal paste change using MX-4, and complete de-dusting once a year and this PS3 get abused daily )

    PS3 Model: CECH2003A
     
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    Thanks for the in depth reply :)
     
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    I use Arctic Silver 5 my 2004B Slim runs:

    Fan Control: Manual 40% Fan Speed

    CPU:52 RSX:48 idle in XMB
    CPU:62 RSX:66 30 min in game
     
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    These are good temps to have. I would not worry about temps unless they start hitting 80*C +.

    EDIT: You could try checking temps every 30mins to see if they get any higher. And also test on a high stress game such as GT6 or The last of Us so you would get a more complete picture of the temps of your PS3's in different situations.
     
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    can anyone explain to me why 2100 models get so hot?
    i searched google and found 3 people who had the same problem with about the same temperatures, could it be a factory fault?
    my temperatures are CPU 69 and RSX 72 in multiman when I'm moving files ..
    is it normal?
    can a 40nm RSX handle more?
    There isn't much information about 2100 models...
     
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    Nanometers isnt everything, many people jump on the nm Boat, assuming that lower nm = better cooling, but actualy no, everything counts, voltage/architecture/cooling system.
     
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    *CECHC04 = CELL (60ºC)/RSX (60-65ºC) = 31/32% Fan (Ingame/XMB)

    *CECH-2004A = CELL (58-60ºC)/RSX (63ºC) = 31/32% Fan (Ingame/XMB)

    *CECH-2104A = CELL (60ºC)/RSX (55-61ºC) = 31/32% Fan (Ingame/XMB)

    All of the consoles have the RSX Delided,and fresh thermal paste, about 3 weeks old,since ive changed, CELL IHS still attached.
     
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    The following results were done Under full load for 3 hours (Red Dead Redemption is perfect for stressing the PS3 since most of the time the FPS is below the 30 FPS cap which means 100% utilization of both the CPU and GPU):

    CECHC04
    Ambient: 30C
    RSX: 65C
    CPU: 75C
    Not delidded
     
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    no fan speed is reported,so that temps could indicate almost everything.also,if the game is below any cap/target that doesn't mean that both cell and rsx is peaking.in ps3's case,especially on later games (like RDR) rsx is bottlenecking,cell is rarely pegged.
     
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    29% fan speed.

    With the way the CELL BE works,It can also proccess graphics,
    And in the PS3 when the RSX is at 100% the CELL BE will use the remaining unutilized resources to proccess graphics in addition the the RSX.

    From wikipedia:
    "The Cell Broadband Engine, or Cell as it is more commonly known, is a microprocessor intended as a hybrid of conventional desktop processors (such as the Athlon 64, and Core 2 families) and more specialized high-performance processors, such as the NVIDIA and ATI graphics-processors (GPUs)."

    Fun fact:
    There used to be a CELL BE based transcoding card...
    The Leadtek PxVC1100 MPEG-2/H.264 Transcoding Card
     
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    only naughty dog tried to squeeze every drop of performance out of both cell+rsx,rockstar did much more conventional job in porting red dead and it's mostly on the rsx where bottleneck is.when you delid your cell you will significant difference on cell temps vs rsx as of cnfirmation that rsx is bottleneck vast majority of times (in later games).
     
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    Though I'm not sure, factory fault seems likely. The first PS3 I ever purchased myself was a 2100 I believe, and in the first few days of having it the fans would go crazy and the system would get pretty hot. XMB would get real laggy, games would really start glitching / freezing "GTA IV textures wouldn't load / LA Noire same thing but worse" had to go back to where I purchased it and get it exchanged. Received a 3001A and I've had that same system now for about 8 years.
     
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    Yes. Cell was more capable than RSX which i think was based on Nvidia 7800 chip. RSX was really struggling in later years of PS3 to keep up with PC gaming. RSX was a bottleneck. Compare PS3 RSX to all the PC Graphic cards came in early 2010s. RSX was no match. While Cell was still managing to go head to head with multicore Intel/AMD chips.

    Naughty Dog did a good job on PS3. Comparing TLOU to RDR, the difference is remarkably visible. TLOU is optimized very well. There is still an issue of FPS drop at some points but that's hardly a concern because most times game will give stable fps.
     
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    Can you place a 2004a power supply in a 2104a?? I thought maybe it will fix overheating
     

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