PS3 4.89 Update is Live! - Discussions / Details about the firmware update

hi, i recently did the maj 4.89 and install a previous HFW (for 4.88).

Will i be able to overwrite it with the one that you are doing without any problem? When i did that, i thought the maj didnt change nothing and the previous one would work...
 
Ohh, she's getting older and older every year, as me, as everyone. But I still remember those AMAAAAA-ZING ads Sony made back in the day. This without a doubt brings sweets memories. Even if is just a silly update :D

 
Sad thing about the 4.89 update is that they included new lines in the layout files, see left is 4.89 and right is 4.88,( 7 lines were added between values -30 and -319)

Many rco mods will need to be redone, I already started to cry, as i have more than 4K modded rcos :frown new:

the only good thing is that we can look at where it was changed to add support for those new lines in the layout files and see if we can now add new ones. @sandungas

I'm thinking about to keep the old layout files from 4.88 and add the new 7 lines at the bottom of it and try to find where they are used and edit only those rcos to read the last lines.

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Hello to all members..first i want to thank all of you for the great work you have done to this point..i have a question.. where is joonie?? Please forgive me if im breaking the rules in Any way..thanks in advanced..
 
Neither OFW or HFW is safe while connected to s0ny servers. The safest method is offline.
But even offline it's possible a power surge could fry it or an earthquake could break it, safest method is unplug it, put it in a bubble wrap and never ever touch it again.
 
Hello to all members..first i want to thank all of you for the great work you have done to this point..i have a question.. where is joonie?? Please forgive me if im breaking the rules in Any way..thanks in advanced..
he last logged in about a month ago. he stopped working on ps3 hacks but is active in other scenes AFAIK.
 
Sad thing about the 4.89 update is that they included new lines in the layout files, see left is 4.89 and right is 4.88,( 7 lines were added between values -30 and -319)

Many rco mods will need to be redone, I already started to cry, as i have more than 4K modded rcos :frown new:

the only good thing is that we can look at where it was changed to add support for those new lines in the layout files and see if we can now add new ones. @sandungas

I'm thinking about to keep the old layout files from 4.88 and add the new 7 lines at the bottom of it and try to find where they are used and edit only those rcos to read the last lines.

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I don't think it's easy for HEN, because the settings are in vsh.self too
 
nothing is 100% safe, not even life. I've been using this method to bypass updates at my own risk. I've used ps3proxy server both on pc/android and this method is more simple, you don't need to set proxy in ps3 and feels safer to do. But you should update as soon as HFW/HEN becomes official.
Sorry for bothering new here.
If i spoof the update, i just update normally when official hen is released or should i delete the file ?
 
to the new 4.89 update, PS3 online will be closed soon, maybe 1 year maybe 2.. You know PS3 online playing is still free. Sony wants from us to buy PS4 and PS5 :) Meanwhile, trust only xploit team for jailbreak not someone else
 
Sad thing about the 4.89 update is that they included new lines in the layout files, see left is 4.89 and right is 4.88,( 7 lines were added between values -30 and -319)

Many rco mods will need to be redone, I already started to cry, as i have more than 4K modded rcos :frown new:

the only good thing is that we can look at where it was changed to add support for those new lines in the layout files and see if we can now add new ones. @sandungas

I'm thinking about to keep the old layout files from 4.88 and add the new 7 lines at the bottom of it and try to find where they are used and edit only those rcos to read the last lines.

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Probably are the positions and sizes of the QR code image (4 values)... and the other 3 dunno... probably the text that is displayed with it (remember text objects have the standard position, size, and other value for the font size of something like that, not sure if is still marked as unknown in the "rcomage psdevwiki mod")

The problem of what you are suggesting (taking the layout.txt files from 4.88 to use them in 4.89) is with them you are going to need to copy all the rco files from 4.88 too

Is a bit tricky to explain, but you know how it works... the "rcoxml objects" inside the rco files contains tenths of values that are a reference to load the real values from the layout.txt files

The layout.txt files from 4.88 contains 4595 lines (all the values loaded by the complete rco collection from 4.88). And the new 7 values added are located at line 2580
This means all the values located after line 2580 has been displaced... so all the rcos ffrom 4.89 that loads values from lines bigger than 2580 are not going to be able to find the value in the layout.txt from 4.88

The real problem is we dont have a list of who is the "owner" of each value inside the layout.txt files... so we dont know how many rco files are going to be broken if you use the layout.txt from 4.88 in 4.89 :(

Dunno, im still thinking in it but i dont see any easy solution by now


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I just updated this wiki page, if there is some other info worthy to be added tell me
https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/XMB_Layouts

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Btw... a rought calulation.... if the layout.txt file had 4595 lines, and the displacement happened in line 2580.... it means around 50% (probably a lot more) of the rco files has been "updated" (different MD5 when compared with 4.88)... but the only difference in them are that references (has been added +7 units of displacement) to load the values from a different line in the layout.txt files
 
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Probably are the positions and sizes of the QR code image (4 values)... and the other 3 dunno... probably the text that is displayed with it (remember text objects have the standard position, size, and other value for the font size of something like that, not sure if is still marked as unknown in the "rcomage psdevwiki mod")

The problem of what you are suggesting (taking the layout.txt files from 4.88 to use them in 4.89) is with them you are going to need to copy all the rco files from 4.88 too

Is a bit tricky to explain, but you know how it works... the "rcoxml objects" inside the rco files contains tenths of values that are a reference to load the real values from the layout.txt files

The layout.txt files from 4.88 contains 4595 lines (all the values loaded by the complete rco collection from 4.88). And the new 7 values added are located at line 2580
This means all the values located after line 2580 has been displaced... so all the rcos ffrom 4.89 that loads values from lines bigger than 2580 are not going to be able to find the value in the layout.txt from 4.88

The real problem is we dont have a list of who is the "owner" of each value inside the layout.txt files... so we dont know how many rco files are going to be broken if you use the layout.txt from 4.88 in 4.89 :(

Dunno, im still thinking in it but i dont see any easy solution by now


EDIT:
I just updated this wiki page, if there is some other info worthy to be added tell me
https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/XMB_Layouts
Maybe stick with the hfw 4.88 and have xploit team go another route. Educate people on the update list and web man mod spoofing method using your guys 4.88 hfw might not be a permanent solution but it's definitely a band-aid over the problem
 
Maybe stick with the hfw 4.88 and have xploit team go another route. Educate people on the update list and web man mod spoofing method using your guys 4.88 hfw might not be a permanent solution but it's definitely a band-aid over the problem
Well, this is not going to stop to release new versions of HFW/HEN/CFW for 4.89... is mostly a problem for the custom .rco files released before

I dont want to trigger the alarms yet (because im not sure if there is some easy way to solve it) but is a big problem, in plain words...
Half of the .rco files from 4.89 are incompatibles with the custom rco files that was compatibles with 4.88
And the percentage of "broken" rco's probably is way higher than half of them, because a single rco file could store tenths of values inside the layout.txt files... if only one of them is broken we should consider the whole .rco file is broken

As example... the only rco mods i know for sure that are not broken are the ones for custom_render_plugin.rco there is a changelog where it can be seen at which line inside the layout.txt files is storing his values:
https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Custom_render_plugin
It stores 6 values, located consecutivelly at lines:
664+1
665+1
666+1
667+1
668+1
669+1

The displacement in the 4.89 layout.txt files happened at line 2580, this is why custom_render_plugin.rco has not been updated (it stores his values before the displacement)

Actually... the best way to know how many rco files are incompatibles with the layout.txt from 4.88 is to extract the contents of 4.88 and 4.89 and compare the MD5 of all the rco files
If the MD5 matches it means the rco mods released for 4.88 of that specific rco file are compatibles with 4.89

Otherway (if the MD5 is different) there is a huge probability that the rco mods published before (compatibles with 4.88) are going to be broken in 4.89
 
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Sorry for bothering new here.
If i spoof the update, i just update normally when official hen is released or should i delete the file ?
delete it and reboot. then update to the latest official HFW/HEN when/if available ????
 
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Can somebody make a quick summary of the current situation? i´ve been reading throught out the entire thread and I´m kind of lost :confused3:
 
Can somebody make a quick summary of the current situation? i´ve been reading throught out the entire thread and I´m kind of lost :confused3:

Yeah sure. We just wait patiently. Asking for ETA just slows down the progress, fills this thread and we have to read 10 pages of the same question and answer back and forth.
 
Yeah sure. We just wait patiently. Asking for ETA just slows down the progress, fills this thread and we have to read 10 pages of the same question and answer back and forth.
I am waiting and I´m not asking for ETA, it will be ready when it is ready, I know. But I got confused and didn´t really understand If we have CFW or HFW or neither. I want to know because I see a lot of stupid YT videos saying that there is HFW, some that says that there is not so I always come to the real thing to confirm if this is true or not but, this time, I can´t really understand "the real thing"
 
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