PS3 CECHA00 Red light but i don’t know why

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Striker92.

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Hello everyone, my console got new thermal paste last week. It was ok untill yesterday.
Basically, i was moving a file with Filezilla, on webman, through wi-fi. During the transfer, ps3 shut off blinking red constantly. I managed to turn it on again, and Webman was gone! That happened again after 15 minutes. Then again after 3 minutes. And that is what is happening now:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ps3homebre...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Based on this, could i have bricked it? Chances are for this, or something with psu. Temps were fine, and there is no yellow light. Thank you!
 
Well, the fact that the problem started appearing inmediatly after the interrupted file transfer indicates that most probably is a problem in the HDD filesystem (software) or the HDD hardware itself
The PS3 abrut power shutdowns caused by firmware crashes usually does a "click" noise in the HDD because the reader arm needs to return to the parking position (either with springs or magnets), this hit sometimes creates bad blocks that should be considered a hardware physicall damage (but can be remapped)

In which direction was the file trasfer btw ?... if it was PC---to--->PS3 then there is a big probability that the HDD hardware is fine and is just the filesystem

You can try to enter in recovery menu and use the option "restore filesystem". This is like a filesystem check (initially, not harmful because doesnt deletes important files), but in your state should be considered a bit risky because we dont know if the process is going to be interrupted with an ugly warning message forcing you to format the HDD (in other words... losing his contents)
So... yeah... at some point you need to do it, but better make a backup of important files incase you want to keep them (saves, licenses, trophies or whatever)
 
Timbo9876 said:
Hello, so does it just blink red the moment you turn on the console from the back power switch?
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Yes, it does just like that.

sandungas said:
Well, the fact that the problem started appearing inmediatly after the interrupted file transfer indicates that most probably is a problem in the HDD filesystem (software) or the HDD hardware itself
The PS3 abrut power shutdowns caused by firmware crashes usually does a "click" noise in the HDD because the reader arm needs to return to the parking position (either with springs or magnets), this hit sometimes creates bad blocks that should be considered a hardware physicall damage (but can be remapped)

In which direction was the file trasfer btw ?... if it was PC---to--->PS3 then there is a big probability that the HDD hardware is fine and is just the filesystem

You can try to enter in recovery menu and use the option "restore filesystem". This is like a filesystem check (initially, not harmful because doesnt deletes important files), but in your state should be considered a bit risky because we dont know if the process is going to be interrupted with an ugly warning message forcing you to format the HDD (in other words... losing his contents)
So... yeah... at some point you need to do it, but better make a backup of important files incase you want to keep them (saves, licenses, trophies or whatever)
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Ok, we are going somewhere. First of all, i don't care losing my content. Forget about the part that i was saying happened the first time when i was using Filezilla. First time happened when i was playing Silent Hill .iso on the emulator. I tried to power it on by the rear switch without the HDD inserted, and it does the same. Don't know if we can take out the HDD by this. The second time i've booted it up, console managed to restore the file system btw. But Webman was gone. At least console was opened a week ago and the thermal paste was changed, so maybe it's because of that.
The fact is that i can't even enter recovery mode, if i press the rear switch it does like that, if i immediately try to holding the front power button it does the same after 4-5 seconds...
 
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So at this stage I would try taking out the harddrive and see if it boots to the message "appropriate harddrive not found"

If it doesn't and it continues to do the same thing then it's time to open your console.

(1) check all ribbon cables are connected properly, a ribbon cable.could potentially be immediately shorting out the console.

(2) if all cables are connected as they should be then its time to check the power supply. If you have a multimeter you can check the power supply, (see YouTube)

(3) if none of the above it's now time to go down to the motherboard, check fuses with multimeter and read the Syscon for errors.

Hopefully it's one of the first two otherwise your going to need to learn some new skills to diagnose the issue further.

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Timbo9876 said:
So at this stage I would try taking out the harddrive and see if it boots to the message "appropriate harddrive not found"

If it doesn't and it continues to do the same thing then it's time to open your console.

(1) check all ribbon cables are connected properly, a ribbon cable.could potentially be immediately shorting out the console.

(2) if all cables are connected as they should be then its time to check the power supply. If you have a multimeter you can check the power supply, (see YouTube)

(3) if none of the above it's now time to go down to the motherboard, check fuses with multimeter and read the Syscon for errors.

Hopefully it's one of the first two otherwise your going to need to learn some new skills to diagnose the issue further.

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Ok, the fact is that it not even boots, i tried moving the rear switch with the HDD out and it does the same. I could try pressing the front power button immediately after rear switch, but it last green for about a second and does like in the video.
 
It sounds like a short, you will need to open the console and check the connections.

Firstly remove the lid and try booting the console. It might be the ribbon cable connecting the card reader.

If still no boot check the blu-ray drive is connected as it should be. Try disconnecting the drive and try to boot. If it boots you know this was not connected properly. (Or bad ribbon cable)

Check the WiFi board is connected, try removing the ribbon cable that connects the WiFi board to the motherboard, if it now boots you know it was this and needs to be reinserted correctly. (or bad ribbon cable)

If still nothing it's likely it's a faulty power supply, use multimeter to confirm it's faulty and replace if it is.



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Timbo9876 said:
It sounds like a short, you will need to open the console and check the connections.

Firstly remove the lid and try booting the console. It might be the ribbon cable connecting the card reader.

If still no boot check the blu-ray drive is connected as it should be. Try disconnecting the drive and try to boot. If it boots you know this was not connected properly. (Or bad ribbon cable)

Check the WiFi board is connected, try removing the ribbon cable that connects the WiFi board to the motherboard, if it now boots you know it was this and needs to be reinserted correctly. (or bad ribbon cable)

If still nothing it's likely it's a faulty power supply, use multimeter to confirm it's faulty and replace if it is.



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I'll try that. We can take out nand brick or something like that is the console booted up after the first time the problem happened? Because they report red flashing light as ''full brick''
Timbo9876 said:
It sounds like a short, you will need to open the console and check the connections.

Firstly remove the lid and try booting the console. It might be the ribbon cable connecting the card reader.

If still no boot check the blu-ray drive is connected as it should be. Try disconnecting the drive and try to boot. If it boots you know this was not connected properly. (Or bad ribbon cable)

Check the WiFi board is connected, try removing the ribbon cable that connects the WiFi board to the motherboard, if it now boots you know it was this and needs to be reinserted correctly. (or bad ribbon cable)

If still nothing it's likely it's a faulty power supply, use multimeter to confirm it's faulty and replace if it is.



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I really hope it is just this. Anyway, forget about the part that i was saying it's happened the first time when i was using Filezilla. First time that happened was when i was playing Silent Hill Ps1 .iso on the emulator.
If it is not all of that, what next?
 
If it goes straight to flashing red light with no yellow then the only time I have seen this is with a faulty power supply. I swapped out the PSU and it worked fine.

I have also triggered this by touching a ribbon cable and it shorted but was fine after I reconnected the cable.

So try the above and let me know how you get on.



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Be sure to find out what was wrong with the console, this experience could be something we all learn from.

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Timbo9876 said:
Time to get down to the motherboard and read the syscon for errors

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The fact is that the guys at the store are trying to fix it, and they didn't mentioned that. They are being very helpful and gently, and i'm feeling not that good at ''teach'' them how to work... hope you understand. Maybe they don't known what that is, or they think that is simply Ylod. They offered me a free reflow. Should i accept that? I don't know anything about ps3, but i would say that if it will works after that it means that there are problems with the capacitors or it needs reballing, am i right? What you would do? For now i don't have the ability to repair it myself, i could learn, but i got that there is something better than do a reflow if it's not necessary... But if will not do anything bad to the console, i'll take it
 
That's the point, they are trying to fix it blind. Have they checked all the fuses? How are they diagnosing the problem? I had a board I felt sure had a problem with the RSX and instead it was a short on the motherboard caused by a blob of solder. I only worked this out by reading the Syscon for errors.

It's actually fairly easy to read the syscon and there is a tutorial on this forum on how to do it. If you do a reflow and it's not required then you could potentially be making the actual problem worse.

Do a reflow at your own risk, if your lucky you have an issue with the substrate of the CPU or GPU and a reflow is a temporary fix. If your not so lucky then it's not and the actual problem has now got worse. Also a reflow could potentially popcorn the board, so you could damage the board beyond reasonable repair. (Popcorning caused by moisture built up in the MB over the years of its life, when heats applied the moisture turns into steam which pops the chips on the MB rendering them useless)

So its read the syscon for errors or risk damage to your console.

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Timbo9876 said:
That's the point, they are trying to fix it blind. Have they checked all the fuses? How are they diagnosing the problem? I had a board I felt sure had a problem with the RSX and instead it was a short on the motherboard caused by a blob of solder. I only worked this out by reading the Syscon for errors.

It's actually fairly easy to read the syscon and there is a tutorial on this forum on how to do it. If you do a reflow and it's not required then you could potentially be making the actual problem worse.

Do a reflow at your own risk, if your lucky you have an issue with the substrate of the CPU or GPU and a reflow is a temporary fix. If your not so lucky then it's not and the actual problem has now got worse. Also a reflow could potentially popcorn the board, so you could damage the board beyond reasonable repair. (Popcorning caused by moisture built up in the MB over the years of its life, when heats applied the moisture turns into steam which pops the chips on the MB rendering them useless)

So its read the syscon for errors or risk damage to your console.

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I would love to be able to send it to you... where are you from? Unfortunately, I believe that between shipping and service, it is not worth it. I said I didn't want to spend any more on it. I believe it is my only solution, considering i'm not able to do anything ... for reflow I think they do it well, having a shop and experience. I think if it will works again even for just a while, the problem comes from chips or capacitors, am I right?
 
Timbo9876 said:
That's the point, they are trying to fix it blind. Have they checked all the fuses? How are they diagnosing the problem? I had a board I felt sure had a problem with the RSX and instead it was a short on the motherboard caused by a blob of solder. I only worked this out by reading the Syscon for errors.

It's actually fairly easy to read the syscon and there is a tutorial on this forum on how to do it. If you do a reflow and it's not required then you could potentially be making the actual problem worse.

Do a reflow at your own risk, if your lucky you have an issue with the substrate of the CPU or GPU and a reflow is a temporary fix. If your not so lucky then it's not and the actual problem has now got worse. Also a reflow could potentially popcorn the board, so you could damage the board beyond reasonable repair. (Popcorning caused by moisture built up in the MB over the years of its life, when heats applied the moisture turns into steam which pops the chips on the MB rendering them useless)

So its read the syscon for errors or risk damage to your console.

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I have some updates. The guys at the store tried a reflow, but it had not solved the problem. They checked the tension on VRAM of the RSX, and they say that they have no power, so reball is the only way to go. It sounds possible?
 
The reflow if done badly could have already killed the console.

Reading the syscon is actually an easy process, if the repair shop can't do a syscon diagnostic on your console then I wouldn't trust them with a repair.

So get the syscon error codes or say goodbye to your console.
 
Timbo9876 said:
The reflow if done badly could have already killed the console.

Reading the syscon is actually an easy process, if the repair shop can't do a syscon diagnostic on your console then I wouldn't trust them with a repair.

So get the syscon error codes or say goodbye to your console.
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I have it again now. It is a good guy, he was really sorry that this thing happened to me after he put his hands on it. For him, previous owner repaired it from ylod in a wrong way, doing a "non professional" reflow. But for him reflow isn't bad as it is, it's just a temporary fix, and it will make it works untill the little balls under the chips resists. Correct? That is the reason it lasted a week to me. In the meantime he did a delid too (not done the first time), tried a reflow with no luck and repasted everything. He said that he had checked the tension on VRAM and they are in shock. For him, a reball will fix it. That is the definitive fix for him for almost every non working ps3, no one take it back to him after it. It sounds good to you? I will continue searching someone able to read syscon, but in the meantime i could find easier someone doing a reball to me, so i was thinking if i should try it based on all of that.
 
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