CFW update fail help?

[jolek]

I hope that the CFW is working fine and without issues for everyone, but if you see any issue

This is not an issue but maybe something worth mentioning...

Edit - I tried installing rebug 4.86.1 Lite and it installed fine. I am guessing 3.55 - evilnat 4.88 is a no go? I tried it 3 times and it didn't work rebug worked first try. Can I now switch to evilnat or do you think that the error will occur again and then I'd be stuck on 4.86? Idk how it works

Wow, this is something new for me...
I mean that you could not update FW from OFW 3.55 to 4.88.2 Evilnat CFW...
On the other hand update from OFW 3.55 to Rebug 4.86.1 Lite works fine...

Especially if all md5sums matched.

 

[Powerful]

This is not an issue but maybe something worth mentioning...



Wow, this is something new for me...
I mean that you could not update FW from OFW 3.55 to 4.88.2 Evilnat CFW...
On the other hand update from OFW 3.55 to Rebug 4.86.1 Lite works fine...

Especially if all md5sums matched.

This is all new to me, I've never touched a PS3 before but I thought I was doing everything right except the time I forgot to take the disc out. Idk if this is normal or what but it made no sense to me. The md5s matched up for both so idk. I also tried to downgrade to 4.84.2 Rex since I've seen it's better on rebug anyways and it worked as well. I wanted to run evilnat since I wanted to use online features but don't want that to happen again... if I got stuck in the update loop dk how I'd be able to fix it since I am now on 4.84 FW (rebug CFW).

 

[jolek]

I thought you wrote that you have Rebug 4.86.1 Lite, now you wrote 4.84 FW (Rebug)...
Probably a typo...

If you want to downgrade firmware e.g. from 4.86 to 4.84 you have to Enable QA Flag (Toggle QA).

I am not sure it is a good idea to use online feature (especially log in to PSN) even with spoofed FW...
I have seen some reports that people get banned (mostly PSN ban) because of that.
Read, search more info about that because my knowledge is limited in this matter.

If you are on Rebug 4.86.1 Lite you can install 4.88.2 Evilnat CFW directly form XMB.
Although please double check its md5sum before updating.

 

[Powerful]

I thought you wrote that you have Rebug 4.86.1 Lite, now you wrote 4.84 FW (Rebug)...
Probably a typo...

If you want to downgrade firmware e.g. from 4.86 to 4.84 you have to Enable QA Flag (Toggle QA).

I am not sure it is a good idea to use online feature (especially log in to PSN) even with spoofed FW...
I have seen some reports that people get banned (mostly PSN ban) because of that.
Read, search more info about that because my knowledge is limited in this matter.

If you are on Rebug 4.86.1 Lite you can install 4.88.2 Evilnat CFW directly form XMB.
Although please double check its md5sum before updating.

No I was saying I downgraded my rebug version to see if that would work to 4.84.2 so I could use Rex. I know with psn people would use sen enabler, and psn patch. I think 4.88 threw a twist in it so now that's not an option. I know evilnat 4.88 works for online and you can use psn patch with it. Nat also said that 4.84.3 rebug could be coming with cobra 8.3 and spoof 4.88 so I might wait for that. I just ideally wanna use psn if possible. I wasn't gonna use my PS4 account in case of a ban and I know I can buy a new console key for PS3 so i wasn't too concerned.

 

[bguerville]

Nat also said that 4.84.3 rebug could be coming with cobra 8.3 and spoof 4.88 so I might wait for that. I just ideally wanna use psn if possible. I wasn't gonna use my PS4 account in case of a ban and I know I can buy a new console key for PS3 so i wasn't too concerned.

Hmmm.. I would not count on an official Rebug update.
If you wish Cobra 8.3 on Rebug REX 4.84, you need to install a Rebug REX 4.84.2 PUP repacked with the appropriate 4. 84 REX Cobra files which can be found in Nat's repo already compiled (and tested?).
https://github.com/Evilnat/Cobra-PS3

Pup repacking can be done with PUADGUI (also from Evilnat).

As to PSN, it is all up to you.
Using Rebug 4.84 to connect to PSN is recommended against, at least until new version spoofing tools are released.

On 4.88 CFW, using PSN to game online can be risky, it depends on the games & on how you play them, if you cheat and/or mod game files of gta5/bo2 etc.., server admins will eventually detect it & you can count on getting banned & losing both PSN account & idps.

Also, I wouldn't take idps spoofing lightly, the console id can be changed BUT don't think that it's done with no possible risks & caveats, no matter what you may have been told by kids spending their time messing with cod/bo2/gta5 servers & getting banned all the time as a result.

And keep in mind that a spare idps should ideally be extracted from a dead console, not only because that's the only way to know what console model it comes from (in theory an idps spoof should use an idps from the same console model) but also because the chances of finding trustworthy idps resellers are more or less akin to those of finding the holy grail, lol.

 

[Powerful]

Hmmm.. I would not count on an official Rebug update.
If you wish Cobra 8.3 on Rebug REX 4.84, you need to install a Rebug REX 4.84.2 PUP repacked with the appropriate 4. 84 REX Cobra files which can be found in Nat's repo already compiled (and tested?).
https://github.com/Evilnat/Cobra-PS3

Pup repacking can be done with PUADGUI (also from Evilnat).

As to PSN, it is all up to you.
Using Rebug 4.84 to connect to PSN is recommended against, at least until new version spoofing tools are released.

On 4.88 CFW, using PSN to game online can be risky, it depends on the games & on how you play them, if you cheat and/or mod game files of gta5/bo2 etc.., server admins will eventually detect it & you can count on getting banned & losing both PSN account & idps.

Also, I wouldn't take idps spoofing lightly, the console id can be changed BUT don't think that it's done with no possible risks & caveats, no matter what you may have been told by kids spending their time messing with cod/bo2/gta5 servers & getting banned all the time as a result.

And keep in mind that a spare idps should ideally be extracted from a dead console, not only because that's the only way to know what console model it comes from (in theory an idps spoof should use an idps from the same console model) but also because the chances of finding trustworthy idps resellers are more or less akin to those of finding the holy grail, lol.

Gotcha. That makes sense. I was saying evilnat tweeted that they got unofficial rebug 4.84.3 with cobra 8.3, improved xai_plugin and 4.88 spoof. So I was saying that's what I might wait to try. It's not official, but I guess from what I've seen it doesn't seem like rebug will comeback...which is a shame since it's such a nice CFW. The risks seem kinda high more so since 4.88 from what I've seen and lol I know the idps probably wouldn't be the easiest to find nowadays. I didn't plan on modding games online or anything more so just being able to have CFW, backups, mod games offline if anything, and play games without syscall and all that to be as safe and possible and just enjoy some games online is all. I know even with psn patch is clearly not 100% effective especially with games like cod or GTA. I think I heard you need a certain game version with anti ban or something or you get immediately banned? Not too sure I am looking into the whole scene rn learning stuff lol

 

[bguerville]

Gotcha. That makes sense. I was saying evilnat tweeted that they got unofficial rebug 4.84.3 with cobra 8.3, improved xai_plugin and 4.88 spoof. So I was saying that's what I might wait to try for anything online related, but I see the risks seem kinda high and lol I know the idps probably wouldn't be the easiest to find. I didn't plan on modding games online or anything more so just being able to have CFW, mod games offline if anything, and play games without syscall and all that to be as safe and possible and just enjoy some games online is all. I know even with psn patch it's and that is clearly not 100% effective especially with games like cod or GTA. I think I heard you need a certain version with anti ban or something or you get immediately banned? Not too sure.

Quite frankly you will hear many things, how many of those are true is another matter altogether.

I keep saying this in one thread after another, there are no stats, no data to analyse & draw conclusions from, only rumors & conclusions drawn on more or less relevant personal experience.
A lot of stuff comes from kids who don't really have a clue about what's going on, what PSN servers check, how a game server works, what a server admin can see or detect & how ban reports are issued.

So yes, there are anti bans eboot & so called recommended practices for one game or another, but an antiban eboot, an idps spoof or a version spoof are just more system mods, in theory they can all be detected in one way or another.

And the bottom line remains the same.
If you play that handful of risky games online, in breach of TCs, you will most likely end up being detected & banned at some point.

For the rest, on CFW, there is always a ban risk when using PSN but the risk is really small as long as you don't abuse the network.
We have had quite a few ban reports through the years, they may not always have been trustworthy, but a few patterns seemed to emerge although like I said we cannot draw definitive conclusions. Still it looks like:

The ban risks on CFW using PSN store, console activation & trophy synching are extremely low, assuming you didn't also mess with system & trophy files or spoofing.
The ban risks increase when you play risky game titles online.
The risks increase considerably when you play risky game titles online with custom syscalls enabled.
The risks increase exponentially when you play those titles online + use cheats or modded game files.

 

[Powerful]

Quite frankly you will hear many things, how many of those are true is another matter altogether.

I keep saying this in one thread after another, there are no stats, no data to analyse & draw conclusions from, only rumors & conclusions drawn on more or less relevant personal experience.
A lot of stuff comes from kids who don't really have a clue about what's going on, what PSN servers check, how a game server works, what a server admin can see or detect & how ban reports are issued.

So yes, there are anti bans eboot & so called recommended practices for one game or another, but an antiban eboot, an idps spoof or a version spoof are just more system mods, in theory they can all be detected in one way or another.

And the bottom line remains the same.
If you play that handful of risky games online, in breach of TCs, you will most likely end up being detected & banned at some point.

For the rest, on CFW, there is always a ban risk when using PSN but the risk is really small as long as you don't abuse the network.
We have had quite a few ban reports through the years, they may not always have been trustworthy, but a few patterns seemed to emerge although like I said we cannot draw definitive conclusions. Still it looks like:

The ban risks on CFW using PSN store, console activation & trophy synching are extremely low, assuming you didn't also mess with system & trophy files or spoofing.
The ban risks increase when you play risky game titles online.
The risks increase considerably when you play risky game titles online with custom syscalls enabled.
The risks increase exponentially when you play those titles online + use cheats or modded game files.

Okay thank you so much for the info! One more question I've also seen 4.84.2 rex CFW being used for dex and people using this to go online with psn patch (I guess if you use nothing it's a perma ban) would this method be follow the same guidelines and risk or different and more risky? Idk much about dex other than I think people use that to cheat online more?

 

[bguerville]

Okay thank you so much for the info! One more question I've also seen 4.84.2 rex CFW being used for dex and people using this to go online with psn patch (I guess if you use nothing it's a perma ban) would this method be follow the same guidelines and risk or different and more risky? Idk much about dex other than I think people use that to cheat online more?

Rebug used to release the exact same CFWs in 2 versions, REX to install on CEX machines & D-REX to install on DEX machines.
The cfw is identical but the 2 editions were needed because when you installed REX & converted the console to dex mode you then needed the D-REX edition to be able to reinstall the firmware & vice versa.

DEX is a development mode, it is made for game & app developers, not for game players.
Many will tell you to use Rebug in DEX mode, saying it is the best.. I believe they are wrong, game players should stick to cex mode at all times unless they absolutely require dex & the only thing that may require dex is game modding.
In other words, all those guys plaguing game servers with cheats & game mods use dex.

 

[Powerful]

Rebug used to release the exact same CFWs in 2 versions, REX to install on CEX machines & D-REX to install on DEX machines.
The cfw is identical but the 2 editions were needed because when you installed REX & converted the console to dex mode you then needed the D-REX edition to be able to reinstall the firmware & vice versa.

DEX is a development mode, it is made for game & app developers, not for game players.
Many will tell you to use Rebug in DEX mode, saying it is the best.. I believe they are wrong, game players should stick to cex mode at all times unless they absolutely require dex & the only thing that may require dex is game modding.
In other words, all those guys plagueing game servers with cheats & game mods use dex.

That makes sense okay thank you for the explanation! So without cheats and all that dex can access psn from what I've seen even on 4.84 (seems to be the only way at this point without a newer CFW for 4.88) using the PS3ID spoof. Does dex have the same risks as you explained earlier as cex, or is dex more of a risk to use online the same way even with a spoof?

 

[bguerville]

That makes sense okay thank you for the explanation! So without cheats and all that dex can access psn from what I've seen even on 4.84 (seems to be the only way at this point without a newer CFW for 4.88) using the PS3ID spoof. Does dex have the same risks as you explained earlier as cex, or is dex more of a risk to use online the same way even with a spoof?

At the end of the day, the biggest risks seem to lay with game servers & those don't really care about cex/dex when it comes to banning.

You shouldn't use Rebug REX 4.84 to connect to PSN until Nat provides a full/final update release (or a system firmware spoof that's safe), unless you are a tester, you shouldn't even use the betas.
You should wait.. Or proceed at your own risk..

And the ps3id spoof is not a spoof btw, it only modifies the TargetID part of the idps.
When you convert to DEX, the target id is automatically patched to the value for dex but with a dex idps you cannot connect to the NP psn environment so the "ps3id active spoof" patches it again to make it a cex idps.
Check the wiki page on idps for more details about idps & the targetid table.

 

[Powerful]

At the end of the day, the biggest risks seem to lay with game servers & those don't really care about cex/dex when it comes to banning.

You shouldn't use Rebug REX 4.84 to connect to PSN until Nat provides a full/final update release (or a system firmware spoof that's safe), unless you are a tester, you shouldn't even use the betas.
You should wait.. Or proceed at your own risk..

And the ps3id spoof is not a spoof btw, it only modifies the TargetID part of the idps.
When you convert to DEX, the target id is automatically patched to the value for dex but with a dex idps you cannot connect to the NP psn environment so the "ps3id active spoof" patches it again to make it a cex idps.
Check the wiki page on idps for more details about idps & the targetid table.

Okay thank you! I'll just be using the 4.84.2 CFW I got and setting up my PS3 to my liking in the coming weeks figuring out more and what I like while waiting for evilnat to hopefully release the new build. I'll then worry about trying it. Thank you for explaining dex to me better I appreciate it!

 

[Sheireen]

Okay so I formatted the drive and it said install ofw 3.55 or later so my console is indeed on 3.55 rergardless of the firmware update fail. I installed ofw 3.55 fine and am back up and running. WiFi and everything works so I would think I shouldn't have to install any other version of cfw? I tried again no disc in drive made sure md5 was good again and I am getting this error code at 2% 8002F163. Then after it retries I get the error code earlier at 42% so I have the same issue. Would updates to 4.88 OFW be a bad idea in this case as I would basically just have to flash my PS3 nor/nand and then could end up in the same situation? Edit - I tried installing rebug 4.86.1 Lite and it installed fine. I am guessing 3.55 - evilnat 4.88 is a no go? I tried it 3 times and it didn't work rebug worked first try. Can I now switch to evilnat or do you think that the error will occur again and then I'd be stuck on 4.86? Idk how it works

try to install evilnat over rebug, I think now it should to work fine
Oh I didn't read out last messages sorry

 

[Powerful]

Hello everyone so I decide to update to evilnat 4.88.2 cobra 8.3 to see if it would work. And it did update successfully. From my experience it's possible that evilnat 4.88.2 cobra 8.3 cannot be installed on 3.55 OFW first. You may need a firmware 4.87 and below. I am not 100% sure but I tried installing multiple times and different CFWs and this is the results I got on my PS3 slim cex cech2001a.

 

[Sheireen]

Hello everyone so I decide to update to evilnat 4.88.2 cobra 8.3 to see if it would work. And it did update successfully. From my experience it's possible that evilnat 4.88.2 cobra 8.3 cannot be installed on 3.55 OFW first. You may need a firmware 4.87 and below. I am not 100% sure but I tried installing multiple times and different CFWs and this is the results I got on my PS3 slim cex cech2001a.

That's why i was telling you to update also because bg toolset doesn't work on 3.55 but from 4.80 if i'm not wrong

 

[Powerful]

That's why i was telling you to update also because bg toolset doesn't work on 3.55 but from 4.80 if i'm not wrong

Yeah I didn't need bgtoolset I just installed rebug 4.86.1 and then tried other CFWs and finally got evilnat so I was saying 4.88 CFW may not work for a 3.55 install

 

[marek256]

Yeah the guide is good to follow.
The procedure is:
1. format the hdd
2. reinstall the firmware you had before the problem (as u stated 3.55 ofw)
3. after getting on xmb install via usb the 4.88 OFW
4. Using bgtoolset patch your nand/nor;
5. Install the 4.88.2 EVILNAT CFW.
6. DONE! And yes is a real CFW not hen. HEN procedure is little different

Hello GUys, sorry to open this older topic, but I am quite in the same situation. I had Rebug 4.85 I think and I wanted latest 4.88 Evilnat. I still had some error so I decided to get back to 3.55 via Rebug Downgrader. THen I wanted to install 4.88 Evilnat and I got error 8002F156 and I found this topic. So I removed HDD, reformatted it in PC and then I wanted to install back 3.55 Rebug downgrader, then I tried 3.55 ofw, then I tried 4.88 ofw and still the same. It asks me to press select and start to install FW 3.55 or higher, then a check passes to 100% and nothing happens, again the same, press PS button and reinstall FW. Does anybody have an idea what to do?
Thank you in advance

 

[Sam2627]

R u currently on 3.55 ofw or 4.88 ofw??

 

[marek256]

R u currently on 3.55 ofw or 4.88 ofw??

Hello, I was on 3.55 at last. Thank you

 

[bguerville]

Hello GUys, sorry to open this older topic, but I am quite in the same situation. I had Rebug 4.85 I think and I wanted latest 4.88 Evilnat. I still had some error so I decided to get back to 3.55 via Rebug Downgrader.

1. You should never have to use a 999 downgrader pup, when you want to downgrade, all you need is to enable QA, then you can install any firmware version up or down without having to spoof version 9.99. The 999 downgraders should be used only in desperate cases, like say when stuck in recovery mode and no other pup will install.

2. Installing 3.55 was most likely a huge waste of time imho, I really fail to see what is to be gained from those downgrades/reinstalls, as if reinstalling 3.55 then 4.8x was always going to fix all problems no matter what they are, a bit like magic, it's just not the case most of the times.

3. I would assume that you cannot update to 4.88 because you used a 999 downgrader and the current fw version is set to 9.99 so 4.88 appears like a downgrade to the System??
Like I said, you should enable QA to free your console from that shit.