PS3 Fault finding YLOD with the SYSCON - First steps and Error reporting

Steve_C78 said:
However from the log it seems that error 1002 always occurs first and then immediately after it involves 2124.
It seems that the 2124 is a consequence of the error 1002 which is the main cause (NEC / Tokin capacitors on the RSX?)
In the meantime I have already ordered from aliexpress tantalium 330uF capacitors
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Hmm, right, and it seems the PS3 is triggering the errors in groups of 2 (or 3) together
Starting with 1002 and one (or two) 2124

I never heard about this behaviour before, so not sure if this details indicates something useful
Initially what you said makes sense, it seems the 1002 happens first, but in the practise we can consider all the errors of the group happens in the same second, im wondering if the 2124's are delayed for some reason
 
Steve_C78 said:
However from the log it seems that error 1002 always occurs first and then immediately after it involves 2124.
It seems that the 2124 is a consequence of the error 1002 which is the main cause (NEC / Tokin capacitors on the RSX?)
In the meantime I have already ordered from aliexpress tantalium 330uF capacitors
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Try adding 1x TaPol cap to the RSX side. If it works replace 1x tokin with 4x 330uF Caps.

The 1002 is more telling to me than the 2124. I would say focus on the RSX pwr first. The 2124 may just disappear.
 
RIP-Felix said:
Try adding 1x TaPol cap to the RSX side. If it works replace 1x tokin with 4x 330uF Caps.

The 1002 is more telling to me than the 2124. I would say focus on the RSX pwr first. The 2124 may just disappear.
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Sorry, what do you mean exactly "try adding 1x TaPol Cap to the RSX side"?
Which of the 4 capacitors of the RSX should I change first?
Is there a logical sequence to follow?
 
Update. My daughter board arrived, it wasn't source of problem after all. So after i plug the connector I get YLOD. I don't know what could be the problem, but it seems that only SYSCON will help me. Anyways, if you have any suggestions, I would love to listen
 
m3duard said:
One more question to ask. Is there any way to find a syscon codes without CFW and soldering?
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Yes, but only SONY can do it. And they'll say no. So no.

However, if you can't do the soldering, may I ask what you hope to acomplish with retrieving the codes? If they tell you its a fuse, you'll still have to solder. That's the best case scenario.
 
Technically... yes, there is a way to get the error codes in a non-booting PS3 without soldering, i mentioned it in page 3 of this thread
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/f...-and-error-reporting.30100/page-3#post-248523
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And this one is even better but a bit more tricky to build ;)
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RIP-Felix said:
Yes, but only SONY can do it. And they'll say no. So no.

However, if you can't do the soldering, may I ask what you hope to acomplish with retrieving the codes? If they tell you its a fuse, you'll still have to solder. That's the best case scenario.
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In that case I'll have to lvl up in soldering :D
Well, I don't have any soldering fans or irons, only one, but it's pretty thick :d
Aight, I'll solder two.contacts, i don't think it's going to be hard
 
RIP-Felix said:
Still have to solder wire to the needles, and at that point you may as well just solder jumpers to the pads.
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Well, i was thinking mostly in avoiding soldering to the motherboard, there is people that only have a solder iron with too much watts/temperature and no experience and they damages the motherboard (crater), or they rips off the testpad

In that sense the trick with the needles is harmless, you can solder the wires to the needles with a rusty iron from hell and/or a flamethrower :D
Also, soledring the wires to the needles is optional, the electrical connection should be good enought by clamping/wrapping the wire to the needle
 
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Hmm, i have an improvement of the first version
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1) We can do the hole first (by drilling... or with a nail + hammer + plyers to remove the nail and leave the hole)
2) Then we insert the copper wire in the hole (peeled, without the plastic insulation)
3) Finally, we insert the needle

This way the needle is going to press the wire laterally, no solder required :)

*Btw, instead of a needle you can use a tiny nail... incase of using a needle, remember a lot of them have some anti-oxidation treatment, it could be a bath of chrome, whatever... so is better to sandpaper the needle all along to remove the chrome layer and to improve the electrical contant
 
sandungas said:
Well, i was thinking mostly in avoiding soldering to the motherboard, there is people that only have a solder iron with too much watts/temperature and no experience and they damages the motherboard (crater), or they rips off the testpad

In that sense the trick with the needles is harmless, you can solder the wires to the needles with a rusty iron from hell and/or a flamethrower :D
Also, soledring the wires to the needles is optional, the electrical connection should be good enought by clamping/wrapping the wire to the needle
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Sure, but then you still have the issue of what to do with the knowlege you gain. Very little can be solved without the ability to solder. So what's the point, if you can't fix what the SYSCON says is wrong? Better to send it to someone who can fix it.
 
RIP-Felix said:
Sure, but then you still have the issue of what to do with the knowlege you gain. Very little can be solved without the ability to solder. So what's the point, if you can't fix what the SYSCON says is wrong? Better to send it to someone who can fix it.
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Diagnostics and repairs could be considered 2 different things, it could happen the person doing the diagnostic realizes it have a big problem requiring reballing, so either they could sell the console cheap for parts... or send to a professional reballer
 
sandungas said:
Diagnostics and repairs could be considered 2 different things, it could happen the person doing the diagnostic realizes it have a big problem requiring reballing, so either they could sell the console cheap for parts... or send to a professional reballer
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I don't see why you would waste time on diagnostics when no matter the result you will have to do either of those things anyway.

The only reason I can see for wanting the error codes is to know what is wrong, so you can fix it. But if you can't fix it and are unwilling to learn how, then what's the point?

All the easy stuff doesn't require SYSCON diagnostics.
 
RIP-Felix said:
I don't see why you would waste time on diagnostics when no matter the result you will have to do either of those things anyway.

The only reason I can see for wanting the error codes is to know what is wrong, so you can fix it. But if you can't fix it and are unwilling to learn how, then what's the point?

All the easy stuff doesn't require SYSCON diagnostics.
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Is better to make your own diagnostic because there are dishonest repair services where you could send the console with a burned fuse and they asks you for 200$ telling they replaced/reballed CELL, RSX and the FLUX capacitor :confused:

Or there could be cases where the diagnostic indicates is needed to replace the PSU, before the diagnostic you are not sure, but after the diagnostic you are confient the only thing you need to do is to buy a new PSU, no soldering required
Or maybe is just a connector/ribbon cable causing a shortcircuit, etc... there are some repairs that doesnt needs soldering
 
Hi everyone, so i have a PS3 I am about to referbish, never been opened, warenty seal intact. Below is a list of error codes. Now I know that 1001 is likely to be a improper shutdown, I do have a few 1004 codes but again this could be a bad shutdown, power supply is running OK as far as I can see.

However we do have a southbridge error 2203, anyone have any idea what this error is as the console is working fine.

Any ideas would be appreciated




Platform ID: CokB10
Product Code: 00 87
Product Sub Code: 00 03
Hardware Config: 20000000FFFFFEFF
Syscon Fimware Version: 0C16.0001000100030003 (EEPROM: 0001000100030003)
Bringup Count: 2137, Shutdown Count: 1277
Runtime: 87 Days, 18 Hours, 19 Minutes, 37 Seconds
Error Log
01: A0801001 Wed Jun 12 21:36:33 2013
02: A0801001 Fri Apr 26 17:51:51 2013
03: A0801001 Sat Jan 19 01:38:42 2013
04: A0801001 Fri Jan 18 00:02:16 2013
05: A0801001 Mon Oct 29 19:40:30 2012
06: A0801001 Sun Oct 28 17:22:59 2012
07: A0801001 Sat Oct 27 09:29:29 2012
08: A0801001 Thu Oct 11 09:05:36 2012
09: A0902203 Fri Sep 28 01:21:54 2012
10: A0801001 Fri Sep 28 01:21:54 2012
11: A0801001 Fri Sep 14 09:36:40 2012
12: A0801001 Fri Aug 10 17:23:50 2012
13: A0901001 Tue Aug 7 20:44:28 2012
14: A0801001 Fri Jun 29 01:34:16 2012
15: A0801001 Thu May 31 21:12:37 2012
16: A0801001 Fri May 4 14:14:40 2012
17: A0801001 Sun Mar 18 19:15:29 2012
18: A0801001 Thu Feb 23 16:31:42 2012
19: A0801001 Sat Nov 19 12:45:23 2011
20: A0801001 Tue Aug 9 13:00:02 2011
21: A0801001 Tue Aug 9 11:36:23 2011
22: A0801001 Sun Aug 7 22:37:57 2011
23: A0801001 Sat Aug 6 14:24:53 2011
24: A0801001 Fri Aug 5 23:04:29 2011
25: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 20:56:55 2011
26: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:32:32 2011
27: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:29:54 2011
28: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:27:06 2011
29: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:19:32 2011
30: A0801004 Wed Jul 20 17:17:49 2011
31: A0801004 Wed Jun 29 10:18:24 2011
32: FFFFFFFF Wed Apr 20 10:07:22 2011
 
Hi everyone
I'm from Iran and I have a problem
my English is not good
we have YLOD ps3 and show me only error 3003
I solder 16 pieces 470 2,5V (without bridge) and when I turn on the console, I can see the voltage before the tantalum capacitors and when I add bridges between two lines of the positive pad, the voltage disappears and I don't know what is voltage going???
I checked all FUSE, resistor and checked for find short but there is NO short in this board
I don't know what am I doing?
 
sandungas said:
Or there could be cases where the diagnostic indicates is needed to replace the PSU, before the diagnostic you are not sure, but after the diagnostic you are confient the only thing you need to do is to buy a new PSU, no soldering required
Or maybe is just a connector/ribbon cable causing a shortcircuit, etc... there are some repairs that doesnt needs soldering
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Right, but for those repairs it's easier the simply replace them. To get the codes you have to dig much deeper, solder wires, muck around with code in a command terminal (seriously why hasn't someone made a window app yet? There is one already, you just have to fix it's broken code retrival. Dude forgot the logs were stored in hex).
 
Timbo9876 said:
Hi everyone, so i have a PS3 I am about to referbish, never been opened, warenty seal intact. Below is a list of error codes. Now I know that 1001 is likely to be a improper shutdown, I do have a few 1004 codes but again this could be a bad shutdown, power supply is running OK as far as I can see.

However we do have a southbridge error 2203, anyone have any idea what this error is as the console is working fine.

Any ideas would be appreciated




Platform ID: CokB10
Product Code: 00 87
Product Sub Code: 00 03
Hardware Config: 20000000FFFFFEFF
Syscon Fimware Version: 0C16.0001000100030003 (EEPROM: 0001000100030003)
Bringup Count: 2137, Shutdown Count: 1277
Runtime: 87 Days, 18 Hours, 19 Minutes, 37 Seconds
Error Log
01: A0801001 Wed Jun 12 21:36:33 2013
02: A0801001 Fri Apr 26 17:51:51 2013
03: A0801001 Sat Jan 19 01:38:42 2013
04: A0801001 Fri Jan 18 00:02:16 2013
05: A0801001 Mon Oct 29 19:40:30 2012
06: A0801001 Sun Oct 28 17:22:59 2012
07: A0801001 Sat Oct 27 09:29:29 2012
08: A0801001 Thu Oct 11 09:05:36 2012
09: A0902203 Fri Sep 28 01:21:54 2012
10: A0801001 Fri Sep 28 01:21:54 2012
11: A0801001 Fri Sep 14 09:36:40 2012
12: A0801001 Fri Aug 10 17:23:50 2012
13: A0901001 Tue Aug 7 20:44:28 2012
14: A0801001 Fri Jun 29 01:34:16 2012
15: A0801001 Thu May 31 21:12:37 2012
16: A0801001 Fri May 4 14:14:40 2012
17: A0801001 Sun Mar 18 19:15:29 2012
18: A0801001 Thu Feb 23 16:31:42 2012
19: A0801001 Sat Nov 19 12:45:23 2011
20: A0801001 Tue Aug 9 13:00:02 2011
21: A0801001 Tue Aug 9 11:36:23 2011
22: A0801001 Sun Aug 7 22:37:57 2011
23: A0801001 Sat Aug 6 14:24:53 2011
24: A0801001 Fri Aug 5 23:04:29 2011
25: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 20:56:55 2011
26: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:32:32 2011
27: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:29:54 2011
28: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:27:06 2011
29: A0801001 Thu Aug 4 19:19:32 2011
30: A0801004 Wed Jul 20 17:17:49 2011
31: A0801004 Wed Jun 29 10:18:24 2011
32: FFFFFFFF Wed Apr 20 10:07:22 2011
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I am assuming you used M4j0r's SYSCON dumper from PS3 Advanced Toolset. That means you must be able to turn the console on? So again I am assuming the 1001 occurs while the console is doing something?

You didn't say. The reason this is importhant is because 1001 observed while the console is on, not while improperly shutting down, can be CELL NEC/TOKINs. I had one recently that would only do it in The Last of Us.

So that would be my guess based on the little you told us.
 
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