PS3 [GUIDE] SSD for PlayStation 3

AFAIK, these strange compatibility issues not affecting external drive, but only internal.
Thanks for info, I will add you later to the table.
 
locarno said:
What you can say about 870EVO in PS3 FAT backwards compatibile? Good or cause problems?
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If you would refer to the charts on the first page of this thread, you would see two 500GB and a 1TB of that particular type of SSD on the "probably compatible" list.. Meaning that three different users have reported success (so far) with the Samsung 870 EVO..
 
Something I haven't seen brought up yet is higher RPM HDDs. I checked and 10,000 RPM 2.5 inch HDDs are still made, which would remove the flakiness of SSD compatibility/long term use performance as well as saturate more of the SATA connection.
 
In theory, 10k RPM HDDs should improve speeds, the same as using SHDD.

Problem is that PS3's GameOS doesn't implement basic hardware features (like SMART for example). Even less the data read/write strategies for better optimization and drive health on SSDs (like TRIM). It's really basic on that matter.
 
GuilloteTesla said:
Problem is that PS3's GameOS doesn't implement basic hardware features (like SMART for example). Even less the data read/write strategies for better optimization and drive health on SSDs (like TRIM). It's really basic on that matter.
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Is that even a problem for a modern SSD? I recall reading that some modern ones can still perform TRIM on the firmware level if the OS does not support it, or that some designs might not even need it anymore.
 
Berion said:
The questions however are:
  • Does 10K rpm will fit into PS3 hole? They can be higher than standard 2,5 inch disks.
  • What about heat producing? We want as cold as possible stuff in PS3. :D
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  • I think there are some 10k RPM HDDs that fit the standard 2.5'', but they are quiet expensive and very hard to find (like premium hardware pieces).
  • Besides of heat, those drives are very loud too (at least that was my experience with a 10k RPM Seagate Barracuda 3.5'', back in 2008.

Cyber Akuma said:
Is that even a problem for a modern SSD? I recall reading that some modern ones can still perform TRIM on the firmware level if the OS does not support it, or that some designs might not even need it anymore.
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As Berion said, TRIM is an OS operation, performed at kernel level. The SSD controller is file system agnostic.
 
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Berion said:
The questions however are:
  • Does 10K rpm will fit into PS3 hole? They can be higher than standard 2,5 inch disks.
  • What about heat producing? We want as cold as possible stuff in PS3. :D
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Ah, I didn't realize how non-existant the 9mm/9.5mm profile is for them. I guess... you could dissasemble the entire PS3 and run a Sata extension cable out of the console (kidding).

7200RPMs is still a decent leap from the stock 5400RPM in the PS3. I've actually been playing PS5 games from an external USB 3.0 7200RPM HDD and it's been better then you'd think (Pragmata).
 
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Largest HDD I was able to find for a PS3 a few years ago was a 1.5TB model, anything larger would not fit, but I then later found out that a drive over 1TB would cause problems anyway. Loadtimes from even a 5400RPM HDD would already be faster than the Blu-Ray drive anyway right, not sure how much a SSD would improve that, though I can also see using a SSD just because 1TB or smaller laptop SATA HDDs will be harder to get than they were a few years ago, and especially in the future.

Wish there was a way I could prevent the games that try to do a forced HDD install though.
(PS2 seems like an even bigger issue honestly with finding IDE drives in general, much less ones where the plugs are in the right place.)
 
alexfree said:
Exactly, 2 birds one stone. Heat generated outside of the console, maximum r/w performance without TRIM madness ;)

Probably easier to plug in the extension cable then wire that up id imagine as well.

Not to get super off topic, but isn't the PS4/Pro also unaware of TRIM? They handle it better then the PS3 though? Wondering if I should put an SSD in my 9.0 FW Pro.
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J'ai aussi une PS4 Pro sous FW 9.0 et un SSD de 250Go. C'est au minimum meilleur de 50 à 100%, je peux te l'assurer.
I also have a PS4 Pro with FW 9.0 and a 250GB SSD. It's at least 50 to 100% better, I can assure you.
 
Cyber Akuma said:
Largest HDD I was able to find for a PS3 a few years ago was a 1.5TB model, anything larger would not fit, but I then later found out that a drive over 1TB would cause problems anyway. Loadtimes from even a 5400RPM HDD would already be faster than the Blu-Ray drive anyway right, not sure how much a SSD would improve that, though I can also see using a SSD just because 1TB or smaller laptop SATA HDDs will be harder to get than they were a few years ago, and especially in the future.

Wish there was a way I could prevent the games that try to do a forced HDD install though.
(PS2 seems like an even bigger issue honestly with finding IDE drives in general, much less ones where the plugs are in the right place.)
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Si tu habitais en France ou dans un pays proche, je pourrais te proposer divers HD de 160 à 320Go en IDE. Ce sont tous des 2,5" et ils sont connectés à la PS2 via un adaptateur/réducteur filaire avec connexion 12 et 5V=. C'est ancien mais parfait.
If you lived in France or a nearby country, I could offer you various HD from 160 to 320GB in IDE. They are all 2.5" and they are connected to the PS2 via a wired adapter/reducer with 12 and 5V= connection. It's old but perfect.
 
Algol said:
Si tu habitais en France ou dans un pays proche, je pourrais te proposer divers HD de 160 à 320Go en IDE. Ce sont tous des 2,5" et ils sont connectés à la PS2 via un adaptateur/réducteur filaire avec connexion 12 et 5V=. C'est ancien mais parfait.
If you lived in France or a nearby country, I could offer you various HD from 160 to 320GB in IDE. They are all 2.5" and they are connected to the PS2 via a wired adapter/reducer with 12 and 5V= connection. It's old but perfect.
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Sorry, I live nowhere near there. Also I think the one I have in my PS2 right now is 750GB and pretty much full already, so those would be too small.
 
Algol said:
J'ai aussi une PS4 Pro sous FW 9.0 et un SSD de 250Go. C'est au minimum meilleur de 50 à 100%, je peux te l'assurer.
I also have a PS4 Pro with FW 9.0 and a 250GB SSD. It's at least 50 to 100% better, I can assure you.
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I mainly want it for Linux on the PS4 Pro (very happy with multimedia and running old PC games via wine, I'm able to stream Crunchyroll even haha). Actual PS4 games have been fine but I can tell the difference between running PS4 games on my PS5 and PS4 Pro for sure. I guess TRIM isn't as important for the PS4s, wonder why.

Haha I still remember a bit of french from High School. I can read it but can't speak or write it to save my life.
 
En effet, je suis un "vieux" français, j'ai 67 ans mais depuis toujours un amateur des consoles SONY (PS1 à PS4).
Quand j'écris pour les Anglophones, je passe par le traducteur de Google dont voici le chemin pour moi (https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=en&op=translate).
J'écrit d'abord dans le formulaire du site "psx-place" puis je copie et je le fais traduire, ensuite je le recopie et l'insère dans mon texte, et c'est fini. Je n'ai aucune notion d'Anglais, j'en suis désolé.

En effet, je suis un « vieux » Français, âgé de 67 ans, mais j'ai toujours été fan des consoles Sony (de la PS1 à la PS4).
Lorsque j'écris pour des anglophones, j'utilise Google Traduction, que j'ai trouvé ici (https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=en&op=translate).
Je commence par remplir le formulaire sur le site « psx-place », puis je le copie et le traduire, puis je le colle dans mon texte, et voilà. Je ne parle pas anglais, je m'en excuse.
 
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