PS3HEN Is buying a used Super Slim(CECH-40) a good idea?

[RoboKing's Cosmos]

I refer to this table: https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Datecode, i understand that if it is higher than 3.56 it is not hackable.

Actually I guess I was off by 4 nvm but anyways forget about what I said above :P

 

[honhon]

I've never heard of it before, where did you read it?

I read that the super slim models have sata 2 and the other ps3 models use sata 1. But I couldn't find any good source of information on that.

Even if that were the case, the loading times aren't that much difference. varies between games

 

[GuilloteTesla]

I read that the super slim models have sata 2 and the other ps3 models use sata 1. But I couldn't find any good source of information on that.

Even if that were the case, the loading times aren't that much difference. varies between games

All PS3s are the same and uses SATA 1 (except one FAT model that uses PATA to SATA conversion).

 

[Nator]

I read that the super slim models have sata 2 and the other ps3 models use sata 1. But I couldn't find any good source of information on that.

Even if that were the case, the loading times aren't that much difference. varies between games

In the end, as you were saying, slim and superslim (CECH-21 and above) are not that different. Even if psdevwiki admits that the superslim 43xx models seem more reliable(for the 28nm RSX), there is a possibility that the eMMC will die, so i think a slim CECH-21 or CECH-25 is better. And then, superslims are aesthetically horrible.

 

[honhon]

All PS3s are the same and uses SATA 1 (except one FAT model that uses PATA to SATA conversion).

I have read that PS3 uses sata 2 or that only Super Slim has Sata 2 but where does that information come from? It must come from somewhere

In the end, as you were saying, slim and superslim (CECH-21 and above) are not that different. Even if psdevwiki admits that the superslim 43xx models seem more reliable(for the 28nm RSX), there is a possibility that the eMMC will die, so i think a slim CECH-21 or CECH-25 is better. .

I only have slims consoles so and I'm not very familiar with thet SS eMMC issues (what about the Super Slim models that use nor?), but if you only want to use HEN, the software was there isn't much difference between a late Slim 25xx/30xx model and a Super Slim

And then, superslims are aesthetically horrible.

I like the more compact console size and the sliding disc cover, but it's your preferences at the end of the day

 

[GuilloteTesla]

I have read that PS3 uses sata 2 or that only Super Slim has Sata 2 but where does that information come from? It must come from somewhere

As far as I know, all the PS3 SKUs are based on the same main hardware components, with some minor revisions between them (like the manufacturing process of the CPU and GPU). But the SATA controller is not one of them as it could render the software library incompatible between models.

If you can provide the source, that would be great. But not even Sony, nor the consoles specifications mention the use of SATA 2.

 

[Alex Teles]

To be more precise, these are the only superslim models that have the 45/28 nm cell/rsx:
CECH-43xxA
CECH-43xxB
CECH-43xxC

I can confirm this is not true at all, I own a super slim CECH-4204A and it has the 45nm CELL with better IHS and the 28nm RSX. Motherboard model: PQX-001.

 

[Nator]

I can confirm this is not true at all, I own a super slim CECH-4204A and it has the 45nm CELL with better IHS and the 28nm RSX. Motherboard model: PQX-001.

Yes even the 42xx can have the 28 nm rsx but all the 43xx have it.
https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/CECH-42xx
https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/CECH-43xx

 

[quake]

I wouldn't be sure of that. CECH-4xxx suffering from eMMC dying (those which was marked as "12Go" have 16GiB eMMC instead NOR+HDD).

Doesn't adding a sata drive completely disable the onboard eMMC, making it a non-issue?

 

[Nator]

Doesn't adding a sata drive completely disable the onboard eMMC, making it a non-issue?

It seems strange to me, but i agree with the question.

 

[Berion]

Doesn't adding a sata drive completely disable the onboard eMMC, making it a non-issue?

No one know that. For sure it disabling "VHDD" (so in theory also dev_hdd1 where updates are copying and unpacking temporary) but hard to say what else. For sure not completely because fw lies there in probably the same way as on NAND models. Until we could get ATA and "Flash" keys for those models, everything is a speculation (like VHDD area which could not existing).

If eMMC is fully redirected to HDD, then this would make those models the best hackable ever (easy dual boot, easy fixable fw issues etc.) in far future. But I extremely doubt that. Not only because SysCon should be enriched for such functionality but also because this is asking for troubles from Sony point of view.

I believe this works in a way like on NANDs where we have "fw areas" and eFlash area. On NOR models eFlash was moved to HDD to a separated partition VFLASH + some unknown data (here is the scheme which will show You what I talking about). So on eMMC could be "fw areas" and VHDD area like eFlash which could contains everything what HDD contains (~12GiB USERDATA and 2GiB CACHE partitions).

This idea isn't mine but @bguerville ^^