PS3 Keeping temps low in a CECHGxx

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CECHG04 - Rebug 4.82
Webman with automatic fan at 70'

Applied fix here:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/t...l-dissipation-without-removing-the-ihs.23066/

Temps of RSX and CELL are now almost always the same +- 2 degrees at MAX.
Applied this fix here:

Temps are lower by 5-7 max. So it did help.

I am trying to further lower this temps because fan goes 40-50% and it simply keeps like that while ingame etc. The noise is just too much for my ears and I can't stand it.

What also can I do? Looking for something simple like the rubber trick (any more ideas @Naked_Snake1995 ?)
*Applying thermal paste (done)
*Applying thermal paste in IHS (too risky)
Since temps are the same I think the cooling process is ok. Would prefer not to touch the paste.
I suppose the fat PS3 are simply going to get hot no matter what.
Don't have the 19 blade fan.
PSU changed to the APS model.
Running without top cover.

Any suggestions? Preferably not drilling holes.
Thanks.

 

[umart666]

you more or less did all you could without delidding.you could try increasing mounting pressure further as described by Naked Snake but that's almost as risky as delid.

RSX delid is far more important and far more safer,cell can whitstand higher temps and you could decrease fan speed to somewhat decent level and keep RSX under control as it's far more important.

cell delid is what requires practice and skill,RSX you could do almost with a spoon and a hairdryer (i'm exaggerating a bit to ilustrate but honestly it's that simple).and always use good stuff,it's worth it on the fats,5-6c lower means decreasing that jet engine sound that we all hate exponentialy.

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

CECHG04 - Rebug 4.82
Webman with automatic fan at 70'

Applied fix here:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/t...l-dissipation-without-removing-the-ihs.23066/

Temps of RSX and CELL are now almost always the same +- 2 degrees at MAX.
Applied this fix here:

Temps are lower by 5-7 max. So it did help.

I am trying to further lower this temps because fan goes 40-50% and it simply keeps like that while ingame etc. The noise is just too much for my ears and I can't stand it.

What also can I do? Looking for something simple like the rubber trick (any more ideas @Naked_Snake1995 ?)
*Applying thermal paste (done)
*Applying thermal paste in IHS (too risky)
Since temps are the same I think the cooling process is ok. Would prefer not to touch the paste.
I suppose the fat PS3 are simply going to get hot no matter what.
Don't have the 19 blade fan.
PSU changed to the APS model.
Running without top cover.

Any suggestions? Preferably not drilling holes.
Thanks.

I run my CECHC04, with just a RSX Delid, and a Rubber Pad on the CELL "dont risk deliding", running stock APS-227 "didnt changed that yet", a 19 Blade NMB-MAT AT 33/34% Fan Speed at the moment, getting temperatures, from 60ºCs to 65ºCs on both CELL/RSX not more than that, and we have to consider that at this time of the year, its blazing hot here in Europe, so these temps are within the expected range. my 2104A Slim had the same treatment, except for the rubber pad for the CELL,but ill add that, as i see the temps surpasses the 65ºC Mark, but its not really a concern to me.

On colder days, its a different story, sometimes i get values to 60ºCs or lower, also in the summer,and 55ºCs, with speeds as lower as 31% Fan Speed, in the winter, reminding you that i like to preserve my machines as original as possible, no drilling or any of that non sense BS.

Regarding the 19 vs 15 Blade Fan myth, trust me its BS, the 19 Bladed fan, has shorter blades,which means more noise, the 15 Bladed has longer blades to compensate for the lack of there off, plus it runs at a lower amperage, has better build quality and it does the same cooling if not better than the 19 Bladed,but my C04 already came with a 19 Blade so i kept it anyway.

 

[Cypher_CG89]

and we have to consider that at this time of the year, its blazing hot here in Europe,

Really mate ... you think ... effing heatwave from north africa .... Am effing melting here in the UK....

And its meant to be even hotter tomorrow...FFS ....

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Really mate ... you think ... effing heatwave from north africa .... Am effing melting here in the UK....

And its meant to be even hotter tomorrow...FFS ....

In Portugal at this time of the year its a f@king furnace, and to make matters worse,i live in the South, you cant even move outside the house ffs.

 

[Cypher_CG89]

In Portugal at this time of the year its a f@king furnace, and to make matters worse,i live in the South, you cant even move outside the house ffs.

Hahaha..... your right on the recieving end of this heatwave..... and its still hot as hell up this way... I don't need to go abroad to get burnt this year... I can just sit in my garden and catch fire from sitting there....

 

[atreyu187]

Screw that my AC stays cranked to 70 all summer long. Hate the humidity here down south but it is what it is. My thermostat hasn't moved from 70 in 30+ years. Low bill in the winter but it's worth the trade off for summers. We average 95+ heat with sometimes 110 heat index.

 

[Cypher_CG89]

Screw that my AC stays cranked to 70 all summer long. Hate the humidity here down south but it is what it is. My thermostat hasn't moved from 70 in 30+ years. Low bill in the winter but it's worth the trade off for summers. We average 95+ heat with sometimes 110 heat index.

hmm 95*F is 35*C.... its been about 33*C in the UK today and tomorrow is meant to be 38*C, we don't have AC built into out homes over here in the UK, we have to suffer lol. And the humidity make's it feel 10* hotter.

38*C tomorrow.... am hiding in my freezer all day lol....

 

[atreyu187]

hmm 95*F is 35*C.... its been about 33*C in the UK today and tomorrow is meant to be 38*C, we don't have AC built into out homes over here in the UK, we have to suffer lol. And the humidity make's it feel 10* hotter.

38*C tomorrow.... am hiding in my freezer all day lol....

Yeah down here I have never seen a home without central heat and air. When I lived in Michigan was when I got my first home without it and I paid the fee to terminate the lease. Never thought houses didn't come with them nowadays. It's midnight here and just checked the temp it's still nice good 82 degrees outside. It doesn't get "cool" till mid October here and I have only seen snow down here 4 times in my 38 years. We get a hurricane at least once a year if not 2-3 times. And the bugs are terrible but what do I expect living in marshlands. Hehe

 

[Cypher_CG89]

Yeah down here I have never seen a home without central heat and air.

Most houses have central heating here in the UK through a combi boiler, but its rare to find AC in people's homes, its mainly factories, offices , shops, and hotels that have AC, you can buy them a get them installed but that would mean tearing walls apart and stuff for the ducts. ANd single unit AC units just look daft on walls or the ceiling. Although some of the house's around where I live, including mine did have heating ducts in them instead of radiators for heating so it could have been converted to AC using the original ducts but I ripped them out lol.

If I ever have the money to build my own home somewhere its having effing air con in it lol.

It's midnight here and just checked the temp it's still nice good 82 degrees outside.

Its 5.30am here and still quite warm.... I cannot sleep when its this humid...

I have only seen snow down here 4 times in my 38 years.

This country seems to come to stand still when there is snow, even if its just a couple of inches of it and most just simpley don't know how to drive in it... they need to take drift lessons to learn how to control the slide....Finland is awesome as part of your Driving test and lessons is learning how to powerslide your car lol, because of all the snow.... " Well am sorry but your powerslide was perthetic .... you failed " lol.

 

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you more or less did all you could without delidding.you could try increasing mounting pressure further as described by Naked Snake but that's almost as risky as delid.

I can try that but since temperatues are the same between RSX and CELL it seems to be that it is ok. It's just the console itself that does not go lower.

ell delid is what requires practice and skill,RSX you could do almost with a spoon and a hairdryer (i'm exaggerating a bit to ilustrate but honestly it's that simple).and always use good stuff,it's worth it on the fats,5-6c lower means decreasing that jet engine sound that we all hate exponentialy.

I understand that delig is the only thing left but it is too much risky. I am not good at hardware work, will be a 99.99% fail.

Now that I fixed the BD and can play games I can see better the problem here.
Before game start temps are close like 65-65.

Once a game starts it goes up. I am playing GOWIII which I think should be a demanding game.
Here I usually start seeing a difference of 5-7 between CELL and RSX. RSX is hotter, I guess GOWIII uses more the RSX (was not this the game that had no FMV and everything was rendered in real time?)

Sometimes in games I have temps like 55 for CELL and 64 for RSX at 40% fan speed which is great. But then comes the horrible noise because my temperate limit is set at 69.
So fan goes to 95% and temps are like 64 for CELL and 69-70 for RSX. It's obvious that for this game atleast the full fan speed will never get RSX temperature under the limit. So I am forced to hear all that noise. 40%-50% is ok but 95% no. And the speed will continue in that speed because RSX can not get lower.

 

[umart666]

get super high end compound,mastergel nano or kryonaut.

you can try to find decent professional in your area,good way to find out is he any good is to see or ask does he do smd work (changing caps,etc).he should be able to do at least RSX delid which is crucial in your case,as even on 100 percent fan speed you're above 70c.

 

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get super high end compound,mastergel nano or kryonaut.

you can try to find decent professional in your area,good way to find out is he any good is to see or ask does he do smd work (changing caps,etc).he should be able to do at least RSX delid which is crucial in your case,as even on 100 percent fan speed you're above 70c.

Thanks but the paste used for now should do. Maybe is's not the best but I think it should do the trick. Don't think it to be that bad.

I asked a real professional once about reballing another PS3 and he said that he can't deal with IHS removal.Really do not want to try delid.

Is there any rubber pad for RSX?

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Thanks but the paste used for now should do. Maybe is's not the best but I think it should do the trick. Don't think it to be that bad.

I asked a real professional once about reballing another PS3 and he said that he can't deal with IHS removal.Really do not want to try delid.

Is there any rubber pad for RSX?

Deliding the RSX, even a child can do it blindfolded, its pretty easy and straightforward.

There is a gap underneath the IHS and the Chip, which has no capacitors, stick a T Shaped cardboard, and use a Flat butter knife, gently push the knife Upwards with the grip, you should hear a crack, nothing to worry, its just the IHS that came loose, and you are pretty much done.

Side note, you'll have to clean the Cement Glue of the VRAMs, not doing this will create an uneven surface on the IHS, which will lead to overheating, due to the poor contact between the RSX Core and the IHS by a few millimeters,which is a huge difference.

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[Cypher_CG89]

butter knife

Stop taking knives to PS3's you murderer.....

Honestly I think every tut you have done involves using a knife of some sort on a poor PS3.... lmao.....

 

[umart666]

yes,it will make huge difference,currently you're frying that console and every single degree counts.

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Stop taking knives to PS3's you murderer.....

Honestly I think every tut you have done involves using a knife of some sort on a poor PS3.... lmao.....

Ill stop using knifes,when you make my Gameboot most begged feature mate, i am still waiting love, but for now, Ken Krugger its still in town "by Ken i mean Ken Kuturagi btw"

 

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Deliding the RSX, even a child can do it blindfolded, its pretty easy and straightforward.

Any tutorials you recommend?

There is a gap underneath the IHS and the Chip, which has no capacitors, stick a T Shaped cardboard, and use a Flat butter knife, gently push the knife Upwards with the grip, you should hear a crack, nothing to worry, its just the IHS that came loose, and you are pretty much done.

How can I be sure that it is the IHS and not the RSX that cracked.

Side note, you'll have to clean the Cement Glue of the VRAMs, not doing this will create an uneven surface on the IHS, which will lead to overheating, due to the poor contact between the RSX Core and the IHS by a few millimeters,which is a huge difference.

Are the VRAMS under the IHS? How should I clean them alcohol? How should I apply the thermal paste under and over the IHS? Do you think the CELL needs a delid too?

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Any tutorials you recommend?


How can I be sure that it is the IHS and not the RSX that cracked.


Are the VRAMS under the IHS? How should I clean them alcohol? How should I apply the thermal paste under and over the IHS? Do you think the CELL needs a delid too?

Ive done this countless times, it didnt crack for me, the IHS its not glued,its simply needs a bit of a push to get off,so you cant gro wrong.

The VRAMs are under the IHS,the actual IHS its cemented with the VRAMs, alcohool wont do much good here, you can try,what i advise, its to take a plastic scraper and scape the cement off thats to avoid scratching the GPU PCB.

Use this video as a reference, to my method:

 

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Ive done this countless times, it didnt crack for me, the IHS its not glued,its simply needs a bit of a push to get off,so you cant gro wrong.

The VRAMs are under the IHS,the actual IHS its cemented with the VRAMs, alcohool wont do much good here, you can try,what i advise, its to take a plastic scraper and scape the cement off thats to avoid scratching the GPU PCB.

Use this video as a reference, to my method:

That looked easy.
So I should remove the IHS in that same way, clean the 4 VRAMS and the chip in the center and apply paste in all of them?
Do you have a good tutorial for applying the paste and putting all back together? Do I need to reglue anything else or just put the IHs freely and screw over it. Do you think CELL needs a delid too?