PS4 Maximum Ethernet speed ?

[wakio]

My laptop have 1 Gbps, but in PS4, it only have 30+MB/s (4 times lower). So maximum download speed in PS4 always lower than normal ?

 

[psykosis]

You are dealing with TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS

GigaBITS per second and MegaBYTES per second are different.
there are 8 BITS in a BYTE. Your 1GigaBIT per second connection can theoretically transfer up to 1000/8 (a number you will never achieve, due to overheads). This is the connection from your device to your router, NOTHING ELSE. once your router establishes it's connection with the internet (via direct or via cable/dsl/satellite/wisp modem), your download speeds from the internet will not exceed the internet connection's speed.
30*8=240 Mbps which sounds about right for an ethernet connection. Since this number is ABOVE 100Mbps then it is a 1000Gbps network adapter. Also of mention is that the PS3 had a 1Gbps network adapter also, which made it much superior to the 54Mbps connection the wifi offered.

If your internet isn't over 250Mbps, then you won't get much more than 30Mbps from the internet. From PC to PS4, you should see higher than 30MBps (this is because ALL DEVICES are talking at 1Gbps, rather than having a slowdown happen when you connect to internet to start download).

My wording probably isn't the best, but the point should be pretty clear.

 

[wakio]

with PS3, i have 15MBps when transfering game through LAN-PC
and PS4, FTP enabled, transfer with filezilla or Remote PS4 PKG through LAN-PC, spd is around 30-32MBps

so i think PS4 have limited speed, 1Gbps LAN network should have 100+MBps

If your ethernet poft on your computer is 1g, you should be able to install any game in 30 min or less. Red Dead 2 took me 32 min and that is an 80 gb. This is the only way to install or play games from external right now as well you cant install to external from usb right now, but for some reason this works. So that's another benefit also you dont have to copy a game to usb then copy it to PS4 so it will save time.

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/h...-on-6-72-with-remote-package-installer.30550/

he said RDR2 80GB took 32mins, so that mean 41.5 MBps, always much lower than 1Gbps (125MBps)

 

[psykosis]

with PS3, i have 15MBps when transfering game through LAN-PC
and PS4, FTP enabled, transfer with filezilla or Remote PS4 PKG through LAN-PC, spd is around 30-32MBps

so i think PS4 have limited speed, 1Gbps LAN network should have 100+MBps


https://www.psx-place.com/threads/h...-on-6-72-with-remote-package-installer.30550/

he said RDR2 80GB took 32mins, so that mean 41.5 MBps, always much lower than 1Gbps (125MBps)

You have a 100Mbps adapter SOMEWHERE along your chain, whether its the network adapter or the port on your router. This would cause your slowdowns.

OR you are connecting Wifi, which COMPLETELY removes the arguments you've listed.

Here are FACTS (NOT i thinks, or maybe's or in my experience, FACTS).:

• Ethernet: 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T is on the PS3.

That being said, your console, can only communicate to any computer/server as fast as the slowest link. If you have a crappy 11Mbps wifi adapter on your laptop, the connection from your laptop to your ps3 will be limited to 11Mbps. PERIOD.

You are also dealing with two different generations of software, with two different pieces of hardware, that run differently. PS4 has MORE optimizations to allow for a better connection overall. Evolutionary design improvements that naturally happen as part of technology.

And in all reality, it will always be slower than the maximum speed. This is due to error correction, among other things. Any other services that run on top (FTP for instance) will require a very tiny amount of overhead to manage and process the commands.

So, please.... make sure your information is CORRECT, when posting. ASSUMING misinformation is fine, but SPREADING misinformation is like wishing digital cancer on someone.

Anyways, all have a good day, and hopefully everyone learned something...

 

[DeViL303]

Here are FACTS (NOT i thinks, or maybe's or in my experience, FACTS).:

• Ethernet: 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T is on the PS3.

Actually the PS3 claims it has a gigabit ethernet adaptor, but its fake. really it will only do ~20% of that in real world use under ideal circumstances, no matter how fast your source/destination is server side, internet/local webserver/FTP etc.

Edit: Its limited by software too. So before 4.30 (I think), it used to be capable of approx 30% of gigabits max theoretical speed..

I would not be surprised if the PS4 is faster, but also limited by software. Maybe things like HDD encryption and security etc lead to this loss of speed.

 

[psykosis]

Actually the PS3 claims it has a gigabit ethernet adaptor, but its fake. really it will only do ~20% of that in real world use under ideal circumstances, no matter how fast your source/destination is server side, internet/local webserver/FTP etc.

Edit: Its limited by software too. So before 4.30 (I think), it used to be capable of approx 30% of gigabits max theoretical speed..

I would not be surprised if the PS4 is faster, but also limited by software. Maybe things like HDD encryption and security etc lead to this loss of speed.

The hardware IS 1Gbps. The PS3 doesn't utilize the full potential, but the potential is there. It DOES supply more than 100Mbps (your 20% puts around 200Mbps).
The hardware/software for the PS4 is better in other areas, that allow it to more fully utilize the potential of the 1Gbps adapter. Even items like better HDD controllers, more system memory, optimized software/hardware, more experience, faster processors, etc can allot for faster speeds on the spec.

 

[DeViL303]

The hardware IS 1Gbps. The PS3 doesn't utilize the full potential, but the potential is there. It DOES supply more than 100Mbps (your 20% puts around 200Mbps).
The hardware for the PS4 is better in other areas, that allow it to more fully utilize the potential of the 1Gbps adapter.

theoretical potential means nothing, what is POSSIBLE is what matters and its what the OP is talking about = Actual speeds.

Do not tell him he is spreading disinfo when he is exactly right about assertions, and your "FACTS" about some theoretical speeds if this ethernet hardware was not in a PS3 means nothing,.

You are claiming he has to have a 100meg device in his chain to experience these speeds, when actually its completely normal to get speeds like this on a PS3 even if his whole LAN is gigabit, so who is really spreading dis info here? is there a 100meg device in the chain or not, and if so, how is he getting speeds above 100meg?

Or you say he is on wifi, and getting 15MB per second? Makes no sense

So, please.... make sure your information is CORRECT, when posting. ASSUMING misinformation is fine, but SPREADING misinformation is like wishing digital cancer on someone.

He did not ask what is the theoretical speed of a gigabit adaptor, he quoted his real world speeds and asked if it was normal, which it is.

 

[DeViL303]

You have a 100Mbps adapter SOMEWHERE along your chain, whether its the network adapter or the port on your router. This would cause your slowdowns.

OR you are connecting Wifi, which COMPLETELY removes the arguments you've listed.

Here are FACTS (NOT i thinks, or maybe's or in my experience, FACTS).:

• Ethernet: 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T is on the PS3.

That being said, your console, can only communicate to any computer/server as fast as the slowest link. If you have a crappy 11Mbps wifi adapter on your laptop, the connection from your laptop to your ps3 will be limited to 11Mbps. PERIOD.

You are also dealing with two different generations of software, with two different pieces of hardware, that run differently. PS4 has MORE optimizations to allow for a better connection overall. Evolutionary design improvements that naturally happen as part of technology.

And in all reality, it will always be slower than the maximum speed. This is due to error correction, among other things. Any other services that run on top (FTP for instance) will require a very tiny amount of overhead to manage and process the commands.

So, please.... make sure your information is CORRECT, when posting. ASSUMING misinformation is fine, but SPREADING misinformation is like wishing digital cancer on someone.

Anyways, all have a good day, and hopefully everyone learned something...

Let me put it another way, you are accusing him of spreading digital cancer and mis info.

Please show one thing he posted that is in any way even slightly factually incorrect? I can not see one thing wrong.

My laptop have 1 Gbps, but in PS4, it only have 30+MB/s (4 times lower). So maximum download speed in PS4 always lower than normal ?

Correct. Consoles are limited when compared to PCs.

with PS3, i have 15MBps when transfering game through LAN-PC

Correct, if you have an ideal setup, good cables, a single large file, fastest FTP client and server you might get a little more like ~20MB per sec

and PS4, FTP enabled, transfer with filezilla or Remote PS4 PKG through LAN-PC, spd is around 30-32MBps

Correct. Again with everything else perfect you might get a little more

so i think PS4 have limited speed, 1Gbps LAN network should have 100+MBps

Correct, it is limited compared to the theoretical max speed, and compared to a PC.

he said RDR2 80GB took 32mins, so that mean 41.5 MBps, always much lower than 1Gbps (125MBps)

Correct, Sounds about right to me.

 

[psykosis]

Let me put it another way, you are accusing him of spreading digital cancer and mis info.

Please show one thing he posted that is in any way even slightly factually incorrect? I can not see one thing wrong.


Correct. Consoles are limited when compared to PCs.

Correct, if you have an ideal setup, good cables, a single large file, fastest FTP client and server you might get a little more like ~20MB per sec

Correct. Again with everything else perfect you might get a little more

Correct, it is limited compared to the theoretical max speed, and compared to a PC.
Correct, Sounds about right to me.

theoretical potential means nothing, what is POSSIBLE is what matters and its what the OP is talking about = Actual speeds.

Do not tell him he is spreading disinfo when he is exactly right about assertions, and your "FACTS" about some theoretical speeds if this ethernet hardware was not in a PS3 means nothing,.

You are claiming he has to have a 100meg device in his chain to experience these speeds, when actually its completely normal to get speeds like this on a PS3 even if his whole LAN is gigabit, so who is really spreading dis info here? is there a 100meg device in the chain or not, and if so, how is he getting speeds above 100meg?

Or you say he is on wifi, and getting 15MB per second? Makes no sense



He did not ask what is the theoretical speed of a gigabit adaptor, he quoted his real world speeds and asked if it was normal, which it is.

You've completely misread.

But whatever. I WAS nice about it before.

 

[0s4X]

Actually the PS3 claims it has a gigabit ethernet adaptor, but its fake. really it will only do ~20% of that in real world use.

why though?

 

[DeViL303]

why though?

It limited by software and probably hardware too. Who knows why, only sony. If I had to speculate I would say that probably applying the hard drive encryption must have some overhead, it could also be as simple as they just didnt want people on gigabit internet like me, from maxing out the connection to PSN servers. So they limited it in the firmware, then when they released 4.30 they decided to limit it even more reducing the speeds from approx 30MBs MAXdown to approx 20MB per sec. Hard to know. All we do know is that its not possible to get any more than that out of it.

 

[DeViL303]

You've completely misread.

But whatever. I WAS nice about it before.

Its quite simple, name one thing the OP has wrong? One single thing that would lead you to say this to him:

So, please.... make sure your information is CORRECT, when posting. ASSUMING misinformation is fine, but SPREADING misinformation is like wishing digital cancer on someone.

I can show you an example of something you have wrong:

You have a 100Mbps adapter SOMEWHERE along your chain, whether its the network adapter or the port on your router. This would cause your slowdowns.

Impossible to get the speeds he is talking about with a 100Mbps device in the chain.

If your internet isn't over 250Mbps, then you won't get much more than 30Mbps from the internet.

??? wrong.

So, please.... make sure your information is CORRECT

 

[wakio]

the final speed is around 40-55MBps+

 

[PS3PIR8]

Off topic, I know, but wanted to share this little tale: I had a lot of fun with a telecomm salesman on the phone a few weeks ago who was offering me "guaranteed speeds of 250 Megabytes per second" for $149/mo with no hidden fees. When I told him I'd like to sign up immediately, he emailed me a contract and I asked him to correct the typos throughout and change Mb to MB... I thought I might have had him, but his supervisor got involved before I ever got him to send over the corrections for me to sign...

 

[DeViL303]

Off topic, I know, but wanted to share this little tale: I had a lot of fun with a telecomm salesman on the phone a few weeks ago who was offering me "guaranteed speeds of 250 Megabytes per second" for $149/mo with no hidden fees. When I told him I'd like to sign up immediately, he emailed me a contract and I asked him to correct the typos throughout and change Mb to MB... I thought I might have had him, but his supervisor got involved before I ever got him to send over the corrections for me to sign...

Lol, I guess it's an easy mistake to make.

But if someone is going to start off with

You are dealing with TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS

and

make sure your information is CORRECT, when posting. ASSUMING misinformation is fine, but SPREADING misinformation is like wishing digital cancer on someone.

Then you should really get it right.


Anyway...

hopefully everyone learned something...

 

[PS3PIR8]

At least we're all just playing around with our toys here. I can't imagine what the conversations at JPL and Lockheed were like after this...

 

[xdrdy]

My PS4 with a 500gb HDD, Cat6 cable and USB 3.0 to Ethernet adapter gives me 55 - 63 MB/s speed on FileZilla with a single transfer, When there are 2 concurrent Transfers, it drops to 22 MB/s each.