PS2 [MX4SIO/SIO2SD] SD Card Adapter and SD-driver for the PS2 SIO2 interface

Already ahead of you and did just that , and tested a few games that weren't on the compatibility list at all and submitted them.

Thanks @hawmie ...nice work bro! ...would be great if more people could double check the games in red on the compatibility list and submit their results if they got those games working.

Here is the MX4SIO Game Compatibility List (for others who want to help test some games)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zHxhwT4nSkrCCAqJNlSndw1Yeh_9g3eL/edit#gid=2095482473

And see at the top of that google sheet a link for submitting your games tested
 
Hey bro, lol you mean "a real MX4SIO", created here by the PSX-Place Devs / Team (Takeshi, Maximus32, Wisi, TnA, Anakin94) ...not Bitfunx, not MC2SIO, but the real authentic MX4SIO. For me this MX4SIO version works perfectly on my 77K slim with OPL BDM3, and has been working every day. Also, i sent the original version to many members here in PSX-Place and it's working fine.

If you want one, "a real MX4SIO" ;):D ...then please just message me anytime, i have some at the moment :encouragement:
Interested in the real one too. I just created the account and can not DM you.
 
Hey bro, i understand what you are saying, it's just why didn't they follow the Devs' designs, using their recommended BOM list of components? I know why that is, it's because some of the components on the Devs' list for MX4SIO are expensive (due to being high quality) and these people were more interested in making a profit (big profit) while capitalising on the name "MX4SIO".

To the unsuspecting buyer, they think they're getting the original PSX-Place Devs' MX4SIO creation, when that's not true. And anytime these clones have problems due to using less and cheaper components (cutting corners basically) then it's MX4SIO and the Devs hard work here that takes the hit.

If those people reproduced the original MX4SIO, 100% to the original specs, then i wouldn't have a problem with it at all. I have a problem with people giving MX4SIO a bad name due to their drive for money / profits / corner cutting.

The Devs' designed MX4SIO to be the very best it could be for the end user, and then some middle men came along and ruined that hard work. Even to the point of sending their sub-par quality product to many Youtubers to review, but not under the project's real name and location (here in PSX-Place), but instead they re-branded the product as their own. For example, MC2SIO is more known than MX4SIO now.

Angry Helder was plugging his product to Youtubers (with links to buy from his website), not advertising the original project. The whole idea was people could come here and make their own d.i.y MX4SIO version, or use the gerber and BOM files available to make their own high quality version of MX4SIO + 3D printed case.

Many of you know i have done free MX4SIO give aways here on PSX-Place, another one is coming very soon (all being well) with 128GB Toshiba Exceria MicroSD cards, called the "MX4SIO Ultra Pack", because i want to give the community the original high quality MX4SIO just as the devs' had intended it to be. I also sell a few here and there to the PSX-Place community members, but i barely break even with all the costs + time + efforts, i'm just one guy with a very small bank account.

It would be really great if more people would re-produce the Devs' original high quality MX4SIO for people to buy, so we can have some balance out there. The clones took over because they are being mass-produced on the cheap (by using less components, a compromised design, and what few components they do use are of low quality) by people in the USA and in China. Some people promised to help fund the manufacturing of lots of original high quality MX4SIO to be sold at a very reasonable price, but they failed to deliver and i never heard from them again, and that's a shame. If i won the lottery i would mass produce high quality MX4SIOs 100% to the devs' specs, and flood the market selling them for a bargain. :D

I totally agree with you man, I had 300 of these made to the specs on your sheet on page 1 and they are still sitting in a box in my house because I haven't been able to print a decent case for them yet, and I don't want to sell them until I can get them to a certain standard and not cheap out.
To that end, I purchased an Ender 5 and I've printed out a few cases now but I can't seem to get one that fits perfectly and I'm having issues with the side walls of the cases separating from the bases at the layer transitions.
I'm wondering if you can point me to anyone who has had success in printing cases with an Ender style printer with repeatable success, my other problem is that just printing out a single case takes an hour or more, so I am also on the look out for somewhere to make me 300 molded cases to fit the board at a good price but also in decent quality, and here in Australia it seems places that do this are few and far between.
Tl:DR. I'd love to start selling these things, but I need a case that works! Can anyone help me with getting reliable prints with lower print times per case or point me in the right direction to get a box of cases made up for these things? I can still make a profit even if I pay a grand or more for 300 cases, and I assume a couple of dollars per for 300 isn't ridiculous to expect?
 
I totally agree with you man, I had 300 of these made to the specs on your sheet on page 1 and they are still sitting in a box in my house because I haven't been able to print a decent case for them yet, and I don't want to sell them until I can get them to a certain standard and not cheap out.
To that end, I purchased an Ender 5 and I've printed out a few cases now but I can't seem to get one that fits perfectly and I'm having issues with the side walls of the cases separating from the bases at the layer transitions.
I'm wondering if you can point me to anyone who has had success in printing cases with an Ender style printer with repeatable success, my other problem is that just printing out a single case takes an hour or more, so I am also on the look out for somewhere to make me 300 molded cases to fit the board at a good price but also in decent quality, and here in Australia it seems places that do this are few and far between.
Tl:DR. I'd love to start selling these things, but I need a case that works! Can anyone help me with getting reliable prints with lower print times per case or point me in the right direction to get a box of cases made up for these things? I can still make a profit even if I pay a grand or more for 300 cases, and I assume a couple of dollars per for 300 isn't ridiculous to expect?
Something you could consider is printing it in a resin. If you're looking to make more in less time, a large resin printer could make multiple cases at once and take no more time than it would take to print a single case.Resin printers print the entire layer all at once, so the amount of time it takes is determined by how many layers, not how much material
 
I totally agree with you man, I had 300 of these made to the specs on your sheet on page 1 and they are still sitting in a box in my house because I haven't been able to print a decent case for them yet, and I don't want to sell them until I can get them to a certain standard and not cheap out.
To that end, I purchased an Ender 5 and I've printed out a few cases now but I can't seem to get one that fits perfectly and I'm having issues with the side walls of the cases separating from the bases at the layer transitions.
I'm wondering if you can point me to anyone who has had success in printing cases with an Ender style printer with repeatable success, my other problem is that just printing out a single case takes an hour or more, so I am also on the look out for somewhere to make me 300 molded cases to fit the board at a good price but also in decent quality, and here in Australia it seems places that do this are few and far between.
Tl:DR. I'd love to start selling these things, but I need a case that works! Can anyone help me with getting reliable prints with lower print times per case or point me in the right direction to get a box of cases made up for these things? I can still make a profit even if I pay a grand or more for 300 cases, and I assume a couple of dollars per for 300 isn't ridiculous to expect?

@MetalMonkey ...g'day mate :D i will DM you now with details of a 3D printing company where you can get a free online quote :encouragement:
 
Something you could consider is printing it in a resin. If you're looking to make more in less time, a large resin printer could make multiple cases at once and take no more time than it would take to print a single case.Resin printers print the entire layer all at once, so the amount of time it takes is determined by how many layers, not how much material
I've been thinking of getting a resin printer, but I had already spent on the ender and it means changing my whole procedure and the mess etc... Even so I'm still thinking about it for the exact reasons you mention. If I can't find an economical solution I'll probably go down that route just to start selling these things and at least get my money back on the investment! Cheers.
 
If you already have the ender5, I recommend you dial in you settings. Get a set of calipers and keep printing calibration cubes and tweaking your e-steps till you are as accurate as possible. Another thing that may help is upgrading your extruder. The default extruder with the ender series is kinda garbage and can slip a lot. I'd look for a BMG type extruder. Chinese KOs are about $40 and just need some lithium grease to get them up to par. With my settings dialed in on the Ender3, I'm able to print at 0.06mm layer heights. The layer lines are barley noticeable.
 
If you already have the ender5, I recommend you dial in you settings. Get a set of calipers and keep printing calibration cubes and tweaking your e-steps till you are as accurate as possible. Another thing that may help is upgrading your extruder. The default extruder with the ender series is kinda garbage and can slip a lot. I'd look for a BMG type extruder. Chinese KOs are about $40 and just need some lithium grease to get them up to par. With my settings dialed in on the Ender3, I'm able to print at 0.06mm layer heights. The layer lines are barley noticeable.
Sounds like I probably need to do that anyway, though .06mm layer heights would take me 3 hours to print a single case, I would be looking for the quickest I can print while still having a decent result, an hour per case is bad enough at the moment! I'm also assuming a resin printer might actually take longer and need lots of clean up as well. Here's hoping I can dial in some settings then! I do have the BL touch so at least leveling isn't too bad. I seem to be OK with the extruder now that I know where to adjust the tension, but if that ever becomes a problem that adjustments don't fix, I'll be looking for that upgrade I think, though i might go direct extruder if I do upgrade I reckon.

Thanks for the advice.
 
The clean up isn't that bad. I have a machine that I just pop the resin prints in and let it wash for like 5 minutes, you break away the supports, and you cure it for like 3 minutes. I also have a removable build plate which allows me to start the next set of prints before the 1st set is done cleaning.
The problem for you going resin would be the startup cost if you're going Going for quantity. Something like a playstation memory card, you can print both sides of it less than an hour on something like an anycubic mono SE, assuming your printing flat on the bed. But I would imagine you could maybe fit 3 to 4 memory cards on the print bed tops.. You get a large scale printer with a large resin vat, And you'll be able to pump out like 10 in the same amount of time.

Going back to PLA printing, I find the sweet spot between quality and speed is typically around 0.2 mm
 
Hey bro, lol you mean "a real MX4SIO", created here by the PSX-Place Devs / Team (Takeshi, Maximus32, Wisi, TnA, Anakin94) ...not Bitfunx, not MC2SIO, but the real authentic MX4SIO. For me this MX4SIO version works perfectly on my 77K slim with OPL BDM3, and has been working every day. Also, i sent the original version to many members here in PSX-Place and it's working fine.

If you want one, "a real MX4SIO" ;):D ...then please just message me anytime, i have some at the moment :encouragement:
Interested in getting this "real" one also, I had thought I got a real one on the suggestion of a youtube video. Macho Nacho starts his video showing psx place but the link its to helder.
 
Hi @SpacialMonkey ...will aim to message you now bro :encouragement:
I'm still fuzzy about the MX4SIO vs MC2SIO comparison, I'm a little confused again because you mention the MC2SIO is the "fake" one but that is the one I got the file from on the front page of this very forum and sent to the manufacturers to be made. Then I found the other files for the MX version and was told they are basically identical when I asked about it.
You're saying the MC2SIO version isn't authentic? Just wondering why it's the main file on the front page here if that is the case?
Sorry I think I've asked this a few times, but I seem to get conflicting answers every time, and what you said seems to imply that it's not the correct one to have had made.
Cheers.
 
MX4SIO
Can I format the SD card in exFAT will it recognize in OPL?

no bro exFAT doesn't work, has to be FAT32

@Haker120 can verify this

I'm still fuzzy about the MX4SIO vs MC2SIO comparison, I'm a little confused again because you mention the MC2SIO is the "fake" one but that is the one I got the file from on the front page of this very forum and sent to the manufacturers to be made. Then I found the other files for the MX version and was told they are basically identical when I asked about it.
You're saying the MC2SIO version isn't authentic? Just wondering why it's the main file on the front page here if that is the case?
Sorry I think I've asked this a few times, but I seem to get conflicting answers every time, and what you said seems to imply that it's not the correct one to have had made.
Cheers.

@MetalMonkey ...no bro you didn't get MC2SIO from Page-1, you got the files for SIO2SD from Page-1. Just look at the Title of this whole thread, notice it has both "MX4SIO" and "SIO2SD" there.

SIO2SD is the 1st version / generation, and MX4SIO is the 2nd / final version of this project. SIO2SD is a smaller PCB designed to fit inside a PS1 or PS2 memory card case. MX4SIO is a larger PCB which must have its own 3D Printed case.

SIO2SD = official 1st generation

MX4SIO = official 2nd generation

MC2SIO = not official
 
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no bro exFAT doesn't work, has to be FAT32

@Haker120 can verify this



@MetalMonkey ...no bro you didn't get MC2SIO from Page-1, you got the files for SIO2SD from Page-1. Just look at the Title of this whole thread, notice it has both "MX4SIO" and "SIO2SD" there.

SIO2SD is the 1st version / generation, and MX4SIO is the 2nd / final version of this project. SIO2SD is a smaller PCB designed to fit inside a PS1 or PS2 memory card case. MX4SIO is a larger PCB which must have its own 3D Printed case.

SIO2SD = official 1st generation

MX4SIO = official 2nd generation

MC2SIO = not official
My apologies, I meant the SIO2SD is the one I got. Bloody typos!
I'm really just trying to figure out why there was a 2nd version, and what differences there are, since I have apparently made V1 (SIO2SD), I did ask this once but someone just said they were basically identical. I'm just curious as to what other differences there are, apart from the case being different. I can see there are some extra parts on the MX version. Sorry I got confused between MC and MX I guess, that is probably where half of my confusion comes from.
TL;DR: What is the difference between SIO and MX that needed a 2nd version? And would I need to know anything specific for the SIO version that I got from the front page. Cheers.

EDIT: I do know the name had to change due to the atari or amiga thing, I can't remember which, but I know about that. My main question is, was that the main reason for the change, and the cosmetic and part changes were just for easier access to parts? Or are there any actual functional differences?

And thanks for clearing up my stupidity and mixing up MC and MX and forgetting I made the SIO. Duh to me on that part. No confusion there now. Thank you.

Oh, and while I'm typing, I was wondering, for any of the mods here or all of you. Since I will be selling these with a custom case of some kind, would you like me to put anything in particular to label it or anything? I plan on giving you guys full credit for the design and telling people to come here for help if I can't help them myself. I don't want to go down that MC route at all.
 
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It lists the games, but will not play the games with exFAT, correct @Haker120 ?
IIRC there is one particular beta 1.2.0 that listed all games and even run one (without MC being detected) when I was forcefully checking what cluster size for exFAT works with USB drive. But kik meh in da nootz I don't remember which one. XD
 

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