PS3HEN PS3HEN Open Beta Testing [For Advanced Users Only]

[Charles_n_town]

I hope you all don't hate me. I've just been concerned about people going online on the ps5 mostly, people who will destroy online. psn+ already costs a bundle, and I'm a member (mostly for cloud saving after my original switch died). I'm a member of each save state, so to speak, except microsoft series x, which is free, but psn+ is very expensive compared with even Nintendo. I wish they had an option to pay for cloud saving+online stuff only, minus the added games - I don't need them.

 

[DeViL303]

You have lots of different issues going on, but lets not confuse cheating in online games, with piracy, or with legitimate reasons for needing these features.

Cheating in online games can happen with paid for games just as easily. Really its up to the developers to fix that on the server side and if they really wanted to they would.. Small example, Developer AgentDark447 pretty quickly patched out loads of old RTM tools in PlayStation Home server software. These tools plagued Home players for a year or 2 before its shutdown with freezing and generally ruining others experience.. This was one developer with limited spare time, not getting paid, fixed these issues over a week or two.

IMO they allow cheating on older platforms to drive people to newer platforms and repeat purchases. Lets not get too worried over these developers for retro games, these profits for most ps3 games are going to big corporations who will screw the gamer over every chance they get, the actual devs who did the hard work are long gone and definitely not getting a cut anymore.

Then you have situations where "piracy" is morally debatable, banned consoles, war zones, poorer countries without reliable shipping for 2nd hand games or with no PS Store or accepted payment methods.

 

[RoboKing's Cosmos]

Is PS3Xploit gonna move to PS3Toolset one of these days?

 

[Charles_n_town]

You have lots of different issues going on, but lets not confuse cheating in online games, with piracy, or with legitimate reasons for needing these features.

Cheating in online games can happen with paid for games just as easily. Really its up to the developers to fix that on the server side and if they really wanted to they would.. Small example, Developer AgentDark447 pretty quickly patched out loads of old RTM tools in PlayStation Home server software. These tools plagued Home players for a year or 2 before its shutdown with freezing and generally ruining others experience.. This was one developer with limited spare time, not getting paid, fixed these issues over a week or two.

IMO they allow cheating on older platforms to drive people to newer platforms and repeat purchases. Lets not get too worried over these developers for retro games, these profits for most ps3 games are going to big corporations who will screw the gamer over every chance they get, the actual devs who did the hard work are long gone and definitely not getting a cut anymore.

Then you have situations where "piracy" is morally debatable, banned consoles, war zones, poorer countries without reliable shipping for 2nd hand games or with no PS Store or accepted payment methods.

please understand that I don't think the vast majority of pirates come from poor countries. I'm an insomniac, and there's a deadness going on when Americans or Western Europeans are asleep. I'd think you'd be pretty peeved that your site went under due to lack of donations. I would've donated had I known about it, and I'm on disability. the point being, most people don't care or assume someone else will do it. the playstation scenes are notorious for this, because the vast majority of people know nothing. they take it up the ass when it comes to fixes, backporters, etc, because some people refuse to share information. it was very prevalent in the ps3 scene, until people realized these "fixers" were resigning games as free using a free klicense. it's not magic, hacking, or whatever else people might like to call it. the fact of the matter is most people don't contribute. I'm not a dev, hacker, or whatever, but even I know the basics of how hacking these consoles works, even with the switch, which I have no direct experience with. people should care unless they want to continue taking it in the ass. this stuff is beyond easy, and I'm just a layman. the apps, information, everything is out there if you want to know it.

please understand that I have an entirely different perspective now that I'm legit. I don't want someone to not only not buy a game I did, but ruin my online experience with it. perhaps, if you were legit, you would understand

 

[DeViL303]

Not sure what you want, Just cos your own perspective has changed a one man campaign wont help much. I spend thousands on games from Sony, including about 300 this xmas, and yeah I pirate some too on older consoles..

Really its up to the console makers to secure their shit better. It is possible, they just need to spend more money than they want to spend. Like stop using open source and or insecure web browsers and shit like that.

 

[Charles_n_town]

Not sure what you want, Just cos your own perspective has changed a one man campaign wont help much. I spend thousands on games from Sony, including about 300 this xmas, and yeah I pirate some too on older consoles..

Really its up to the console makers to secure their shit better. It is possible, they just need to spend more money than they want to spend. Like stop using open source and or insecure web browsers and shit like that.

while true, I just wish it wasn't so easy, as a legit user, I mean. the ps3 and vita online are a disaster, and there's almost no worth to trophies beyond your self history. sure, I could do hen on my superslim, but I chose not to mostly because I don't want any chance of getting banned. like you, I've spent probably thousands on ***PlayStation Store***. it wouldn't hurt me much not to be able to play online, but to lose out on those purchases or even the trophies, which I have a marginal sum of, I would be devastated. like I said, I don't want to get into a fight. I just wish more people saw things from the other perspective, from a legit user's. I've done my fair share trying to help others with the ps3, ps4, and even the ps5, which I have no experience with, but in those cases I don't care if people pirate, just so long as they can never sign in. to me, being able to do so is insulting, and I won't help people destroy things for legit users, since I'm now one of them.

 

[aldostools]

while true, I just wish it wasn't so easy, as a legit user, I mean. the ps3 and vita online are a disaster, and there's almost no worth to trophies beyond your self history. sure, I could do hen on my superslim, but I chose not to mostly because I don't want any chance of getting banned. like you, I've spent probably thousands on ***PlayStation Store***. it wouldn't hurt me much not to be able to play online, but to lose out on those purchases or even the trophies, which I have a marginal sum of, I would be devastated. like I said, I don't want to get into a fight. I just wish more people saw things from the other perspective, from a legit user's. I've done my fair share trying to help others with the ps3, ps4, and even the ps5, which I have no experience with, but in those cases I don't care if people pirate, just so long as they can never sign in. to me, being able to do so is insulting, and I won't help people destroy things for legit users, since I'm now one of them.

Thanks God you don't want to get into a fight but have 2 pages complaining about a feature that doesn't affect your game experience.

1-Cheating and piracy are 2 different subjects. It has been already explained in this thread.

• Cheating may affect your game experience if used online. 100% agree with you in this point. But "rap.bin" is unrelated to this.
• Piracy enables an user to play a game that didn't pay. It doesn't affect you. It's debatable if affects the devs, because it's uncertain if that user would pay for the game, if it wasn't free.

2-The new "rap.bin" only adds a new format to read the licenses provided by the user. You can use it like you want.
3-Indeed the "rap" feature was provided to help those people that cannot access their PSN account with their purchased content.

Unfortunately, these features -like many others in HEN or CFW- can be used for non-legitimate purposes too.

We understand that you don't agree with "rap.bin" but you are not obligated to use it. You can use it if you want. The other users voted for this feature. That simple.

 

[Charles_n_town]

Thanks God you don't want to get into a fight but have 2 pages complaining about a feature that doesn't affect your game experience.

1-Cheating and piracy are 2 different subjects. It has been already explained in this thread.

• Cheating may affect your game experience if used online. 100% agree with you in this point. But "rap.bin" is unrelated to this.
• Piracy enables an user to play a game that didn't pay. It doesn't affect you. It's debatable if affects the devs, because it's uncertain if that user would pay for the game, if it wasn't free.

2-The new "rap.bin" only adds a new format to read the licenses provided by the user. You can use it like you want.
3-Indeed the "rap" feature was provided to help those people that cannot access their PSN account with their purchased content.

Unfortunately, these features -like many others in HEN or CFW- can be used for non-legitimate purposes too.

We understand that you don't agree with "rap.bin" but you are not obligated to use it. It's a that you can use if you want. The other users voted for this feature. That simple.

maybe I misunderstood what the rap.bin was for, but does it allow unlocking games or content that you may not own? I thought it was like a rap repository. I guess I was wrong.

 

[LuanTeles]

maybe I misunderstood what the rap.bin was for, but does it allow unlocking games or content that you may not own? I thought it was like a rap repository. I guess I was wrong.

Yep, rap.bin can function as a RAP repository, much like how you can add a collection of RAPs to the exdata folder. Again this feature is already AVAILABLE for years! rap.bin is just a faster and more effective way of storing the RAPs, it's up to you what to do with it.


@esc0rtd3w started a poll for users to suggest RAPs that could be included with HEN, but only for non-game content.

For example, this could include PS2/PSP launchers, Crunchyroll (which no longer works, it briefly came back thanks to a modder, but the URLs changed again), the Visualizer app, and other non-game applications that require license keys to run but are no longer available.

No games or paid content will be included in rap.bin (at least not from PSX-Place). Personally, I've collected RAPs over the years, but I don't use them for piracy. It's more about digital preservation. It's crucial to have these files because, once Sony shuts down the PS Store, this content could be lost, as we won't be able to launch it without the license files.

 

[esc0rtd3w]

Is PS3Xploit gonna move to PS3Toolset one of these days?

What do you mean? PS3Toolset is under the PS3Xploit umbrella. If you meant when is PS3HEN going to be available to be installed by PS3Toolset on OFW, well that is a different question, and may eventually be a feature, but that is up to bguerville if and when that happens.

 

[Joonie]

What do you mean? PS3Toolset is under the PS3Xploit umbrella. If you meant when is PS3HEN going to be available to be installed by PS3Toolset on OFW, well that is a different question, and may eventually be a feature, but that is up to bguerville if and when that happens.

I don't think replacing webkit module via PS3Xploit would require a reboot, so I think HEN installation without HFW can be done at one shot. Whenever that day comes.. ultimately, maybe HEN without stackframe would be the most ideal way to hack..

 

[esc0rtd3w]

please don't hate me. I feel honored that I was able to make your coldboots. I'm just thinking of my own existence. I've worked very hard for myself, and a lot of people don't care about that tbh. please understand. I'm only thinking of your existence as well as how it appears to psx-place . I don't want psx-place to be a hypocrite by allowing easy piracy. I'm just looking out for you and the site. does that make any sense?

No hate here. Your work is good and appreciated, as I've said before.

This is the last thing I'll say about the other subject. The piracy issue will always be an issue on every single device that has elevated privileges, beyond its intended use. This doesn't mean that everyone is now just a pirate. Development, reverse engineering, debugging, and learning are many of the things that are done and accomplished on an exploited system.

As with most things in life, there are many tools which we have that can be used for ill intent. That doesn't mean we dont make or use the tool because someone could use it in a way you dont agree with.

Call it a gray area, much like emulation, if you want. In that regard, think of the system in 10, 20, 30 years from now. In the long term, many of these tools made that can be considered "shady" are the only reason we can play or even know about many games and systems of the past, in so much detail.

 

[LuanTeles]

I don't think replacing webkit module via PS3Xploit would require a reboot, so I think HEN installation without HFW can be done at one shot. Whenever that day comes.. ultimately, maybe HEN without stackframe would be the most ideal way to hack..

Yeap, webkit sprxs are loaded on demand, so simple replacing them on flash and loading the web browser again will immediately load the one exploitable.

 

[RoboKing's Cosmos]

That is a nice feature can we also make a act.dat reader for linux/windows that is related to rif2bin? @esc0rtd3w
wait probably a bad idea nvm

@esc0rtd3w what can i do to implement rif2bin in evilnat cex?

 

[Evilnat]

That is a nice feature can we also make a act.dat reader for linux/windows that is related to rif2bin? @esc0rtd3w
wait probably a bad idea nvm

@esc0rtd3w what can i do to implement rif2bin in evilnat cex?

I already have rap2bin/bin2rap implemented in Cobra and xai (private build atm), time to test it

 

[Evilnat]

rap2bin, bin2rap and rap.bin file by @esc0rtd3w implemented in xai_plugin and Cobra seems to be working as expected

I will continue testing to see if I find any issues

Sorry for the double post

 

[Charles_n_town]

rap2bin, bin2rap and rap.bin file by @esc0rtd3w implemented in xai_plugin and Cobra seems to be working as expected

I will continue testing to see if I find any issues

Sorry for the double post

I've kinda had a change of heart about this feature. if it makes things easier, go for it.

btw, love Akihabara (been there). I bought my DS there actually before I even realized American games would work on the thing iirc. I don't know if you've been, but there's a five story or so gaming store there with televisions to play games as well as with old gaming commercials. I think it was a place to buy older system games mostly. I bought my pouch, which is now falling apart, for the DS at a mall in Japan iirc. it's one of those Hori pouches.

 

[Evilnat]

rap2bin, bin2rap and support for rap.bin licenses are working as expected

 

[Charles_n_town]

is the rap.bin just the content id followed by its hex key? I used to dump content for someone in the ps3 scene, and I remember you could make a rap file with just the content id and hex key, very easy, and it assured no way that it would be taken down if public.

edit: btw, this was to get klicenses iirc.

 

[esc0rtd3w]

is the rap.bin just the content id followed by its hex key? I used to dump content for someone in the ps3 scene, and I remember you could make a rap file with just the content id and hex key, very easy, and it assured no way that it would be taken down if public.

edit: btw, this was to get klicenses iirc.

Basically yeah. It has padding and a magic number for each entry, to keep everything aligned. The format is Magic Number (4 bytes), Padding (12 bytes), Content ID (36 bytes), Padding (12 bytes), RAP Value (16 bytes)