PS3 (Research/Experimental) - NEC/TOKIN Capacitors Replacement - YLOD

Hello,
I have recently inherited a Fat PS3 with YLOD. The console was in good conditions with warranty sticker still applied, so I'm pretty confident nobody has messed with it (except myself :tranquillity:)
I believe the console belongs to the Warm-Start category, according to the faq.
This is the behavior I observe:
- from completely cold, the console shows YLOD between 3 and 12 secs approx.
- during a period of about 3 minutes of repeatedly trying to switch the console on, the time elapsed to YLOD becomes progressively longer, until the console becomes stable and stays powered on.
- after this time, all in all the console seems to be working fine. I also tried to play GT5 for 30 mins with no visible issue.
If I switch the console off then on when warm, the console will boot fine first attempt.
Confident of the stability, I went for jailbreak and extracted syscon logs with PS3 Advanced tools.
From the logs, I can see error 1002 (RSX VRAM Power Fail) as only error.
I read on this forum that 1002 is usually a sign of bad Tokins, but I also read that for Warm-Start YLOD consoles, the Tokins are usually not the culprits.
Any suggestion on how I could take the investigation further?
Logs below, and thanks in advance to all the experts in this thread!
Code:
Firmware Version: 4.88 (build 50731)
Platform ID: CokE10
Product Code: 00 87
Product Sub Code: 00 07
Hardware Config: 4E00FFFF0107BCBF
Syscon Fimware Version: 0E69.0001000400040002 (EEPROM: 0001000400040002)

Bringup Count: 1726, Shutdown Count: 1639
Runtime: 162 Days, 7 Hours, 24 Minutes, 52 Seconds

Error Log
01: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:58:24 2022
02: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:57:37 2022
03: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:57:02 2022
04: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:42 2022
05: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:34 2022
06: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:25 2022
07: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:06 2022
08: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:55:45 2022
09: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:55:31 2022
10: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:12:41 2022
11: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:12:33 2022
12: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:51 2022
13: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:43 2022
14: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:23 2022
15: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:15 2022
16: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:07 2022
17: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:50 2022
18: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:32 2022
19: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:15 2022
20: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:07 2022
21: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:57 2022
22: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:39 2022
23: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:33 2022
24: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:14 2022
25: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:06 2022
26: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:11:48 2022
27: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:11:31 2022
28: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:11:13 2022
29: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:10:55 2022
30: A0801002  Sun Feb 13 22:48:59 2022
31: A0801002  Sun Feb 13 20:52:27 2022
32: FFFFFFFF  Sun Feb 13 20:52:07 2022
This is actually, the first and only time someone has posted SYSCON errors showing 1002's in a console claiming that repeated repeated attempts to power on the console resulted in it working. I had written off the idea that heat could have any effect on the tokins...which I'm still dubious about. However, that doesn't mean the VRM can't be effected by the heat. I'm not sure.

You do have the correct errors for a tokin replacment. I just don't have an explanation for that warm start YLOD. I greatly appreciate the errorlog with that observation. I would have bet this was a BGA defect otherwise!
 
Hi Friends, here is my DIA-001 internal logs...

Code:
C:\Users\Bob_Top\Desktop\PS3\SYSCON>python ps3_syscon_uart_script.py COM3 CXRF
>$ AUTH
Auth successful
>$ eepcsum
eepcsum
Addr:0x000032fe should be 0x56c7
Addr:0x000034fe should be 0x980c
Addr:0x000039fe should be 0x7360
Addr:0x00003dfe should be 0x00ff
Addr:0x00003ffe should be 0x00ff

>$ becount
becount
Bringup : 2080 times
Shutdown: 2013 times
Power-on: 144day 10hour 25min 29sec
[mullion]$

>$ bringup
bringup
[SSM] state: 0000 -> 0101
Bringup Mode #0 (0xFF)
[SSM] ssmCb_OnStartingBePowOn() called.
[SSM] First Boot.
[SSM] Bringup mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Setup called.

>$ powerstate
[SSM] state: 0101 -> 0301
[SSM] PowSeq Fail : Detected !
[SSM] state: 0301 -> 0700
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Letup
[SSM] Shutdown mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[ERROR]: 0xa0022110
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Letup called.
[SSM] state: 0700 -> 0600
(PowerOff State) (Fatal)
powerstate
ATA Power          : OFF
PCI Power          : OFF
RSX Power          : OFF
XDR Power          : OFF
Eurus Power        : OFF
SB Power           : OFF
RSX Thermal Sensor : UNAVAILABLE
BE Thermal Sensor  : UNAVAILABLE
[mullion]$

>$ errlog
errlog
ofst[120]:err_code:0xffffffff, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[124]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[  0]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[  4]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[  8]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 12]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 16]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 20]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 24]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 28]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 32]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 36]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 40]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 44]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 48]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 52]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 56]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 60]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 64]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 68]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 72]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 76]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 80]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 84]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 88]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 92]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 96]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[100]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[104]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[108]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[112]:err_code:0xa0a02031, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[116]:err_code:0xa0022110, clock:0xffffffff
[mullion]$
>$

I checked F6001 and sure enough it had blown. I have ordered some 5A / 32V (1206) fuses, looking forward to testing + reporting the results here once they arrive, all being well.

Edit ...i wish i had done these SYSCON error logs before, because last year after trying 8 x NEC/Tokin replacements (with 2nd hand NEC/Tokins) it still had YLOD, so i decided to reflow the RSX, but i was stupid / lazy and didn't oven bake out the humidity (72 hours at 90° C) and as a result i pop-corned the RSX substrate on the reflow. I have a replacement RSX ready to replace it with so will see. Shame really.
 
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And here are the internal logs for my 2nd SEM-001

Code:
C:\Users\Bob_Top\Desktop\PS3\SYSCON>python ps3_syscon_uart_script.py COM3 CXRF
>$ AUTH
Auth successful
>$ becount
becount
Bringup : 1836 times
Shutdown: 1795 times
Power-on: 215day 07hour 02min 04sec
[mullion]$

>$ bringup
bringup
[SSM] state: 0000 -> 0101
Bringup Mode #0 (0xFF)
[SSM] ssmCb_OnStartingBePowOn() called.
[SSM] First Boot.
[SSM] Bringup mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Setup called.
[SSM] state: 0101 -> 0201
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Setup
[SSM] state: 0201 -> 0102
[SSM] state: 0102 -> 0202
[SSM] state: 0202 -> 0103
[SSM] state: 0103 -> 0203
[SSM] ssmCb_BeforeBeOn() called.
[SSM] state: 0203 -> 0104
Psbd_SbTransMode_Half:0x20e7

>$ powerstate
[POWERSEQ] Error : BitTraining RSX:RRAC:RX0:GLOBAL1:RX_STATUS
[SSM] state: 0104 -> 0304
[SSM] ssmCb_AfterBeOn2() called.
[SSM] PowSeq Fail : Detected !
[SSM] state: 0304 -> 0700
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Letup
[SSM] Shutdown mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[ERROR]: 0xa0404402
[ERROR]: 0xa0403034
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Letup called.
[SSM] state: 0700 -> 0600
(PowerOff State) (Fatal)
powerstate
ATA Power          : OFF
PCI Power          : OFF
RSX Power          : OFF
XDR Power          : OFF
Eurus Power        : OFF
SB Power           : OFF
RSX Thermal Sensor : UNAVAILABLE
BE Thermal Sensor  : UNAVAILABLE
[mullion]$

>$ errlog
errlog
ofst[ 80]:err_code:0xffffffff, clock:0x2294b712  2018/05/20 22:45:38
ofst[ 84]:err_code:0xa0902120, clock:0x2294b712  2018/05/20 22:45:38
ofst[ 88]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a46e93  2018/06/01 20:52:35
ofst[ 92]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a46e93  2018/06/01 20:52:35
ofst[ 96]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a46e9e  2018/06/01 20:52:46
ofst[100]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a46e9e  2018/06/01 20:52:46
ofst[104]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a46ea5  2018/06/01 20:52:53
ofst[108]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a46ea5  2018/06/01 20:52:53
ofst[112]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a46ed3  2018/06/01 20:53:39
ofst[116]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a46ed3  2018/06/01 20:53:39
ofst[120]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a46f1b  2018/06/01 20:54:51
ofst[124]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a46f1b  2018/06/01 20:54:51
ofst[  0]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a475f0  2018/06/01 21:24:00
ofst[  4]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a475f0  2018/06/01 21:24:00
ofst[  8]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22a4761f  2018/06/01 21:24:47
ofst[ 12]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22a4761f  2018/06/01 21:24:47
ofst[ 16]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22df9868  2018/07/16 17:54:48
ofst[ 20]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22df9868  2018/07/16 17:54:48
ofst[ 24]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x22df9885  2018/07/16 17:55:17
ofst[ 28]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x22df9885  2018/07/16 17:55:17
ofst[ 32]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x27fe0a92  2021/04/05 17:51:14
ofst[ 36]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x27fe0a92  2021/04/05 17:51:14
ofst[ 40]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x27fe0ac2  2021/04/05 17:52:02
ofst[ 44]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x27fe0ac2  2021/04/05 17:52:02
ofst[ 48]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x28e8b5a3  2021/09/30 17:51:31
ofst[ 52]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x28e8b5a3  2021/09/30 17:51:31
ofst[ 56]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x28e8b5ae  2021/09/30 17:51:42
ofst[ 60]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x28e8b5ae  2021/09/30 17:51:42
ofst[ 64]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x28e8b5d0  2021/09/30 17:52:16
ofst[ 68]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x28e8b5d0  2021/09/30 17:52:16
ofst[ 72]:err_code:0xa0404402, clock:0x29a117d1  2022/02/17 14:27:29
ofst[ 76]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x29a117d1  2022/02/17 14:27:29
[mullion]$
>$

Both of my SEM-001 have 3034 error code, so will be looking to reball their RSX, will aim to let you know the results here.
 
@DeadEnd ...i was watching your Youtube video (RSX Mod) and i really want one of those Mod chips from Indonesia, but i found it hard to work through ordering one, because it's all in Indonesian only. Can't we make our own one? Is it not open source?

How did you get your Mod chip in the end?

P.S ....are you French? What accent is that you have?
 
@DeadEnd ...i was watching your Youtube video (RSX Mod) and i really want one of those Mod chips from Indonesia, but i found it hard to work through ordering one, because it's all in Indonesian only. Can't we make our own one? Is it not open source?

How did you get your Mod chip in the end?

P.S ....are you French? What accent is that you have?


It's not open source... I think we could try to make our own, it's just nobody has bothered to do that yet.

I think a user named feeltodeath has been offering to ship it to anybody. You can try contacting him. The fiverr person isn't actually offering her forwarding services anymore.

I guess I'm a mix of russian & finnish. :D It's funny when people try to place my accent, they usually never get it right.
 
It's not open source... I think we could try to make our own, it's just nobody has bothered to do that yet.

I think a user named feeltodeath has been offering to ship it to anybody. You can try contacting him. The fiverr person isn't actually offering her forwarding services anymore.

I guess I'm a mix of russian & finnish. :D It's funny when people try to place my accent, they usually never get it right.

Thanks bro, most appreciated
 
Found the best ps3 delidding tool for cpu after some digging mine came today and works like a dream
 

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Found the best ps3 delidding tool for cpu after some digging mine came today and works like a dream
Those are to remove resin from cellphone's ICs in a reballing process. I don't have them atm but I believe those aren't strong enough to cut the CELL's silicone, and you don't have the angle to make a good cut either.
 
I guess on a SEM-001, with only a 65nm CELL and a 90nm RSX, it's more likely to be the RSX due to overheating issues with the larger sized die. At this point i would aim to start with reballing the RSX first to see what happens, then move to the CELL if that didn't stop the YLOD.

EDIT ...on another note, i was going to reball using leaded balls, but i thought about it:- lead solder being about 63/37 has 63% silver and 37% lead, Silver is the most conductive metal and lead has practically little to no conductive qualities. Lead-Free on the other hand has 95% silver. Surely using Lead-Free solder would reduce the ESR when compared to Lead solder?
Could you share a link about those bgas with silver you're referring to?
Hello,
I have recently inherited a Fat PS3 with YLOD. The console was in good conditions with warranty sticker still applied, so I'm pretty confident nobody has messed with it (except myself :tranquillity:)
I believe the console belongs to the Warm-Start category, according to the faq.
This is the behavior I observe:
- from completely cold, the console shows YLOD between 3 and 12 secs approx.
- during a period of about 3 minutes of repeatedly trying to switch the console on, the time elapsed to YLOD becomes progressively longer, until the console becomes stable and stays powered on.
- after this time, all in all the console seems to be working fine. I also tried to play GT5 for 30 mins with no visible issue.
If I switch the console off then on when warm, the console will boot fine first attempt.
Confident of the stability, I went for jailbreak and extracted syscon logs with PS3 Advanced tools.
From the logs, I can see error 1002 (RSX VRAM Power Fail) as only error.
I read on this forum that 1002 is usually a sign of bad Tokins, but I also read that for Warm-Start YLOD consoles, the Tokins are usually not the culprits.
Any suggestion on how I could take the investigation further?
Logs below, and thanks in advance to all the experts in this thread!
Code:
Firmware Version: 4.88 (build 50731)
Platform ID: CokE10
Product Code: 00 87
Product Sub Code: 00 07
Hardware Config: 4E00FFFF0107BCBF
Syscon Fimware Version: 0E69.0001000400040002 (EEPROM: 0001000400040002)

Bringup Count: 1726, Shutdown Count: 1639
Runtime: 162 Days, 7 Hours, 24 Minutes, 52 Seconds

Error Log
01: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:58:24 2022
02: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:57:37 2022
03: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:57:02 2022
04: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:42 2022
05: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:34 2022
06: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:25 2022
07: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:56:06 2022
08: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:55:45 2022
09: A0801002  Wed Feb 16 01:55:31 2022
10: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:12:41 2022
11: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:12:33 2022
12: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:51 2022
13: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:43 2022
14: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:23 2022
15: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:15 2022
16: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:11:07 2022
17: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:50 2022
18: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:32 2022
19: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:15 2022
20: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 18:10:07 2022
21: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:57 2022
22: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:39 2022
23: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:33 2022
24: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:14 2022
25: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:12:06 2022
26: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:11:48 2022
27: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:11:31 2022
28: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:11:13 2022
29: A0801002  Mon Feb 14 09:10:55 2022
30: A0801002  Sun Feb 13 22:48:59 2022
31: A0801002  Sun Feb 13 20:52:27 2022
32: FFFFFFFF  Sun Feb 13 20:52:07 2022
I have a pair of 20xx that were only tokins, but unlike your console, mine was shutting down just some moments after showing image, sometimes if you booted them on recovery mode they'd keep on, but the moment you make them do some effort, ->YLOD. Same happened to me when I was reviving a couple of BCs, I wasn't able to complete the first part of TLOU (explosions and all) until I added a few more tantalums. Your console could be having a vague bga issue. Add a few tantalums in parallel and let's see.

BTW, I'm gonna post the logs of those slims when I cfw them, WHEN I have free time :(
 
Could you share a link about those bgas with silver you're referring to?

I have a pair of 20xx that were only tokins, but unlike your console, mine was shutting down just some moments after showing image, sometimes if you booted them on recovery mode they'd keep on, but the moment you make them do some effort, ->YLOD. Same happened to me when I was reviving a couple of BCs, I wasn't able to complete the first part of TLOU (explosions and all) until I added a few more tantalums. Your console could be having a vague bga issue. Add a few tantalums in parallel and let's see.

BTW, I'm gonna post the logs of those slims when I cfw them, WHEN I have free time :(

:oops: Sorry ElGris, i'm an idiot, i forgot "Ag" is for Silver, and "Sn" is for Tin. I got them mixed up thinking "Sn" was for silver, doh! That will teach me for not paying attention in science class.

There is a silver solder paste with a content of 70% silver, however it's melting point is 690 °C
https://palmermetals.co.uk/product/...ring/silver-solder-paste-medium-15gm-syringe/
 
Are you in the states? I have purchased and already received x100 of the Orbis mod chips and just haven't had the time to offer them up for sale yet in the forums. Message me if interested in purchasing some! Or anyone else for that matter feel free to contact me.

I'm in the U.K. Thank-you for your kind offer, however, i am already now in the process of ordering some Orbis from Feel2Death.
 
Yeah, it works.

I am refining the design to work out a manufacturing issue that caused it to fail to get made properly for one user. That has only happened once out of many orders and OSH park refunded the order. So you can buy with confidence. They just shipped me the test batch of my next beta iteration (v0.4b). This one will have v scoring to address this issue (hopefully). It should be arriving soon.

I just ordered some of the v0.3b from OSH park, @RIP-Felix ...could you tell us when the v0.4b might be available to order also? Many thanks.
 
Hi everyone, it's my first time trying to upgrade my NEC/Tokin capacitors from my BC PS3 to SMD Tantalum Caps. I live in the Philippines and so far the most accessible to buy is this one:

https://shopee.ph/20pcs-10pcs-2R5TP...4?sp_atk=7e836c2e-e5c5-40ae-8b4c-4a015e0fd3a8

Is this good enough? It's around $5 for 20pcs so I'm not sure if they're high quality since they're so cheap.
Thanks in advance for your input.

It's too cheap i think, also you want this model:- Panasonic - 2R5TPE470M7 - 470uF 2.5V (low ESR = 7mohm)
See links here:-
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Panasonic/2R5TPE470M7?qs=OE1iw1LrrPFssbKV91yTww==

Or cheaper here:-
https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Tantalum-Capacitors_PANASONIC-2R5TPE470M7_C147773.html

If / when you want to try replacing them, first you should do the SYSCON error report logs, see guide from RIP-Felix here:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/r...s-replacement-ylod.25260/page-192#post-295119

...this can help you know if it's a problem with NEC/Tokins, or RSX / CELL, or a blown fuse, etc.

Edit: For me on one of my PS3, 2 years ago (before we now do SYSCON error logs) i tried replacing all 8 x NEC/Tokins, it didn't work, so then i tried to reflow the RSX but i screwed up and pop-corned it. The other day i did the SYSCON error logs on this PS3 - the error code (2110) said blown fuse F6001, i looked and yes the fuse F6001 had a hole on the top. I could have just changed this cheap fuse if only i did SYSCON error report first. But now it's too late and this PS3 needs a replacement RSX.
 
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It's too cheap i think, also you want this model:- Panasonic - 2R5TPE470M7 - 470uF 2.5V (low ESR = 7mohm)
See links here:-
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Panasonic/2R5TPE470M7?qs=OE1iw1LrrPFssbKV91yTww==

Or cheaper here:-
https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Tantalum-Capacitors_PANASONIC-2R5TPE470M7_C147773.html

If / when you want to try replacing them, first you should do the SYSCON error report logs, see guide from RIP-Felix here:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/r...s-replacement-ylod.25260/page-192#post-295119

...this can help you know if it's a problem with NEC/Tokins, or RSX / CELL, or a blown fuse, etc.

Thanks for the advice. Actually, my BC PS3 works fine at the moment. Me changing the NEC Tokin capacitors is basically me just wanting to do my best to avoid YLOD in the future. I'm planning to change the thermal paste and thermal pads, as well as replace the PSU and fan so since I'm going into all this trouble I figured I'd just replace the caps while I'm at it.

Is it better if I leave the NEC Tokin caps for now since PS3 is actually working?
 
Ugh had some bad luck today with a bad delid first time ive ever broken a ps3 gonna be a stressing day today now the second photos was after ive realise how done the cpu was so got pissed and snapped it on half i mean just made everones bc more rarer i guess also the rsx came clean of and looks good might do a reball on a bc ps3 that has ylod
 

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Ugh had some bad luck today with a bad delid first time ive ever broken a ps3 gonna be a stressing day today now the second photos was after ive realise how done the cpu was so got pissed and snapped it on half i mean just made everones bc more rarer i guess also the rsx came clean of and looks good might do a reball on a bc ps3 that has ylod

Wow, you rage-snapped the mobo in half... i've never seen that before. I cry for your BC PS3. Farewell dear BC PS3, you will be missed old friend. :sorrow:
 
Wow, you rage-snapped the mobo in half... i've never seen that before. I cry for your BC PS3. Farewell dear BC PS3, you will be missed old friend. :sorrow:
Dont worry tho the rsx still works as did a reball on another ylod and its now working ive also i did salvage alot of it like the ports and the 330uf smd capacitors bit asoon as i saw the cell damages i knew it was toast
 
Is it better if I leave the NEC Tokin caps for now since PS3 is actually working?

Yes for sure, you know the old saying:- "if it isn't broken - don't fix it". Also, the NEC/Tokins are rated at 1000 hours at 105°C. However, the life-span doubles for each 10°C reduction in temperature. So if the NEC/Tokins (close to the RSX and CELL) get to about 45°C on average, then they have a life-span of about 125000 hours. If they get to about 60°C on average then their life-span is about 100000 hours.

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EDIT... so with that in mind it's more likely to get a YLOD, (later down the road), due to the RSX BGA. At which point you could always reball / reflow / replace the RSX.

When / if you get a YLOD, first thing is to follow the SYSCON error report guide by @RIP-Felix (that i linked in my previous message to you) ...then you can diagnose if the YLOD is because of NEC/Tokins, or RSX / CELL, or blown fuses, etc, before taking any action.
 
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