PS3 (Research/Experimental) - NEC/TOKIN Capacitors Replacement - YLOD

[vyktormvmpay25]

Ihs will never touch surface of cpu. Resistance of cpu power line will tell much more about cpu. I usually don't work on a cpu under 2 ohms. Usually I get same resistance when ic is soldered on board or out.

 

[Kleon1876]

Ihs will never touch surface of cpu. Resistance of cpu power line will tell much more about cpu. I usually don't work on a cpu under 2 ohms. Usually I get same resistance when ic is soldered on board or out.

I removed the silicon glue under the cpu ihs and the silicon residue on the top of cpu itself. Could that be the reason since not the metal ihs is touching the top of cpu?

when u say 2ohms. Where exactly do u put the prongs to measure the resistance of the cpu?

 

[vyktormvmpay25]

On pins of nek capacitors

 

[Kleon1876]

On pins of nek capacitors

Pins? I'm sorry for the million questions. I appreciate the help. Where are the pins in relevance to the cpu nek rails?

 

[vyktormvmpay25]

Take a photo of nek capacitors.

 

[Kleon1876]

Take a photo of nek capacitors.

i edited and attached screenshots of the cok001 schematic to my last post.

 

[vyktormvmpay25]

Gnd with black.

 

[Pacorretaco]

@Kleon1876 Your CPU is probably OK.
You had indeed RSX bit training errors. Failed communication between CPU and RSX. Meaning your problem was not even the CPU as suspected. Probably the RSX again.

But now you damaged CPU traces and are getting new error. You even showed picture of damaged traces. So of course you are getting XDR init error now. There are visible sctatches in the area between CPU and XDR RAM. So no wonder you get RAM errors. The ohms are probably fine because the CPU was fine.
This is not voodoo. You have RSX problems AND scratched CPU. No need to search for more problems man. Leave the poor southbridge alone for now.

Those scratches are in sensible areas, so it's normal that the thing is not working now. But maybe they could still be fixed by someone skilled. If it's only 1 layer deep. No guarantees of course. Also remember again this is just a new problem stacked on top of old problem.
And I see there's also scratches on the other important corner. Look there with microscope too.

 

[sandungas]

But now you damaged CPU traces and are getting new error. You even showed picture of damaged traces. So of course you are getting XDR init error now. There are visible sctatches in the area between CPU and XDR RAM. So no wonder you get RAM errors.

Agreed with that, in the first photo he uploaded the damage in the CELL substrate looks more like a crater than a scratch (horrible), but in the second photo with the microscope doest looks so bad, it seems there are only 2 traces broken

And that damaged lines seems to go directly to the elpida chip (system RAM) that can be seen in the photo, thats why he is having a XDR fatal error, because one of the system RAM chips is knocked out

Btw @Kleon1876 considering there are only 2 traces broken you could try to fix them, the probablities to succeed are low but just try it, maybe you are lucky
The first thing you can do is to use lot of flux and drop a solder blob on top of the damaged area and move the melted tin around, then check with the microscope and multimeter to see if the tin attached to the lines correctly
Incase it doesnt works repeat, repeat, repeat, etc...
To do this you should use very low temperature and dont scratch the copper surfaces with the solder iron tip... because you dont want to remove any more of the copper material

 

[wwfc95]

I'm looking for some advice, I've imported a 20GB ps3 from Japan, I've tried a few games but once the console gets hot the screen artifacts and the game will freeze. Once the console has cooled down it will work but will happen again, would this fix this issue or is it considered a GLOD and attempt to return?

 

[RIP-Felix]

also at this point iam getting glod with light being green...

GLOD is consistent with CPU or RSX RAM issues. Yes.

...How can I check the cpu to see if it's working fine?

As victor said, take a resistance measurement between the GND/+ rail of the NEC/TOKIN. This will give you an idea of that area's health (including the CPU or RSX). You should do this befor and after any repair or reflow in that area, because it tells you if you did a good job or not. Anything under 1 ohms is bad. 3+ ohms is good. It doesn't mean your CPU is fine, but it tells us that the soldering and chip is okay. If you're still getting a GLOD, then it narrows it down to the RAM, and your scratched traces.

The reason I say that is because you reflowed the 3034 on the RSX and the latest bringup showed your console's bootloader starting. That's past the point a 3034 normally causes a 40 state YLOD. Something you could try is a powerstate command once the console is in the GLOD state. That will show you what's on. You did this command before when you had a 3034 and it showed everything off, which is normal when it's shutdwon. But during a GLOD, more should be powered on. It might tell us more. And while you're in there, you may as well get the becount as well. It may give us an idea of how much use the console has seen.

Speaking damaging CPU traces, this is why you should always start the blade in the middle of the CPU where there is a break in the silicone. Never at the corners. If your blade digs in, the spot where there's an opening in the silicone has no traces, whereas everywhere else does. I did mention that in my guide for deliding a page or 2 back.

It's not necessarily a death sentence and that microscope image does seem like it'll be on the easier side of repairing these type of traces, but it involves microsoldering. You can try what @sandungas suggests, but it might result in bridging between traces. So be careful to use flux and not to gouge the surface any more. Alternatively you could reconstitute the connection using tiny conductors and a pen dispensor like this. However, this is definately getting to the difficult stage where most people will give up. Since this console in important to you, I say go for it and good luck!

 

[RIP-Felix]

I'm looking for some advice, I've imported a 20GB ps3 from Japan, I've tried a few games but once the console gets hot the screen artifacts and the game will freeze. Once the console has cooled down it will work but will happen again, would this fix this issue or is it considered a GLOD and attempt to return?

Unlikely! What you describe could be many things, but none of them are good. If you paid for a working console, then you certainly did not get what you paid for. Attempt the return first! That's going to be your best option.

How loud does the fan get? Does it sound like a jet?

 

[Kleon1876]

GLOD is consistent with CPU or RSX RAM issues. Yes.

As victor said, take a resistance measurement between the GND/+ rail of the NEC/TOKIN. This will give you an idea of that area's health (including the CPU or RSX). You should do this befor and after any repair or reflow in that area, because it tells you if you did a good job or not. Anything under 1 ohms is bad. 3+ ohms is good. It doesn't mean your CPU is fine, but it tells us that the soldering and chip is okay. If you're still getting a GLOD, then it narrows it down to the RAM, and your scratched traces.

The reason I say that is because you reflowed the 3034 on the RSX and the latest bringup showed your console's bootloader starting. That's past the point a 3034 normally causes a 40 state YLOD. Something you could try is a powerstate command once the console is in the GLOD state. That will show you what's on. You did this command before when you had a 3034 and it showed everything off, which is normal when it's shutdwon. But during a GLOD, more should be powered on. It might tell us more. And while you're in there, you may as well get the becount as well. It may give us an idea of how much use the console has seen.

Speaking damaging CPU traces, this is why you should always start the blade in the middle of the CPU where there is a break in the silicone. Never at the corners. If your blade digs in, the spot where there's an opening in the silicone has no traces, whereas everywhere else does. I did mention that in my guide for deliding a page or 2 back.

It's not necessarily a death sentence and that microscope image does seem like it'll be on the easier side of repairing these type of traces, but it involves microsoldering. You can try what @sandungas suggests, but it might result in bridging between traces. So be careful to use flux and not to gouge the surface any more. Alternatively you could reconstitute the connection using tiny conductors and a pen dispensor like this. However, this is definately getting to the difficult stage where most people will give up. Since this console in important to you, I say go for it and good luck!

thank you all for the replies. So here is what i did as felix asked and this is what I have. I havent measured the resistance yet. The CPU says its ON, is that a good sign? maybe the scratch isnt as bad as i think. What are your thoughts?

Spoiler

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\XXXX>cd c:\python27\scripts
c:\Python27\Scripts>python ps3_syscon_uart_script.py COM3 CXRF
>$ AUTH
Auth successful
>$ bringon
bringon
*** Unknown Command ***
[mullion]$
>$ bringup
bringup
[SSM] state: 0000 -> 0101
Bringup Mode #0 (0xFF)
[SSM] ssmCb_OnStartingBePowOn() called.
[SSM] First Boot.
[SSM] Bringup mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Setup called.
[SSM] state: 0101 -> 0201
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Setup
[SSM] state: 0201 -> 0102
[SSM] state: 0102 -> 0202
[SSM] state: 0202 -> 0103
[SSM] state: 0103 -> 0203
[SSM] ssmCb_BeforeBeOn() called.
[SSM] state: 0203 -> 0104
Psbd_SbTransMode_Half:0x20e2
>$
[SSM] state: 0104 -> 0204
[SSM] state: 0204 -> 0105
[SSM] state: 0105 -> 0400
(PowerOn State)
[SERV NVS] READ CMD
Boot Loader SE Version 1.0.0 (Build ID: 1673,16934, Build Data: 2006-1
:57)
Copyright(C) 2006 Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.All Rights Reserved.
[SERV SETCFG] XDR (CH0,CH1) ASSERT
[SERV SETCFG] XDR (CH0,CH1) DEASSERT
[ERROR]: 0xb0002001 (FATAL) XDR Link not initilized.
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ATA Power : ON
PCI Power : OFF
RSX Power : ON
XDR Power : ON
Eurus Power : ON
SB Power : ON
RSX Thermal Sensor : AVAILABLE
BE Thermal Sensor : AVAILABLE
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Bringup : 3567 times
Shutdown: 3431 times
Power-on: 175day 15hour 08min 44sec
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>$ shutdown
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[SERV NVS] WRITE CMD
shutdown
[SSM] state: 0400 -> 0500
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Letup
[SSM] ssmCb_AfterBeOn() called.
[SSM] Shutdown mode ... req_wake_src = 000000F4, ctxt=00/00
[SSM] Shutdown mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Letup called.
[SSM] state: 0500 -> 0000
(PowerOff State)
>$ errlog
errlog
ofst[ 64]:err_code:0xffffffff, clock:0x0c29f1fc 2006/06/19 23:38:36
ofst[ 68]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0d07f7a8 2006/12/05 09:26:00
ofst[ 72]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0d666059 2007/02/15 00:05:45
ofst[ 76]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0e84dfd9 2007/09/20 07:38:01
ofst[ 80]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0e84e126 2007/09/20 07:43:34
ofst[ 84]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0e9880f2 2007/10/05 04:58:26
ofst[ 88]:err_code:0xa0802022, clock:0x0ea28ffc 2007/10/12 20:05:16
ofst[ 92]:err_code:0xa0802022, clock:0x0ea29061 2007/10/12 20:06:57
ofst[ 96]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0ea94507 2007/10/17 22:11:19
ofst[100]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0eed2b6a 2007/12/08 10:16:10
ofst[104]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0f089f0d 2007/12/29 06:00:45
ofst[108]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0f08a1df 2007/12/29 06:12:47
ofst[112]:err_code:0xa0801701, clock:0x0f13322f 2008/01/06 06:31:11
ofst[116]:err_code:0xa0801601, clock:0x0f13322f 2008/01/06 06:31:11
ofst[120]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f13324e 2008/01/06 06:31:42
ofst[124]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f13334a 2008/01/06 06:35:54
ofst[ 0]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f133351 2008/01/06 06:36:01
ofst[ 4]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f13440b 2008/01/06 07:47:23
ofst[ 8]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f134411 2008/01/06 07:47:29
ofst[ 12]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f146e3a 2008/01/07 04:59:38
ofst[ 16]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f149dc7 2008/01/07 08:22:31
ofst[ 20]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f17f909 2008/01/09 21:28:41
ofst[ 24]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 28]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 32]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 36]:err_code:0xa0801103, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 40]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 44]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 48]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 52]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 56]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 60]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
[mullion]$
>$ lasterrlog
lasterrlog
Last Error Code:0xa0902203, Time:0xffffffff
[mullion]$

 

[Kleon1876]

I have uploaded a few pictures of the cpu damage under microscope. I did a side by side with a good cpu to see the traces. Are they beyond repair? I am getting 3+ohms resistance on the cpu and gpu. Let me know your thoughts.

 

[vyktormvmpay25]

Between gnd and communication line should take measurements, should not be as shortcircuit less then 1 ohm.
Could be polished with felt disc from biax but not to much pressure,with hand not with speed.

 

[RIP-Felix]

That first picture looks suspect to me in 2 places.

1. Check the trace for continuity from the top of the scratch to the bottom of the scratch.
   • Where the solder mask is missing the trace could have gotten broken. Where the mask is intact it should be fine. So probe both ends of the trace to see if it has continuity. That means one of 2 things:
     1. The trace is intact or...
2. Check the trace for continuity with the ground plane next to it.
   • That means you scratched the trace and ground. Now there is no separation between them and have a short.
     
   • You need to separate them again, by scratching away the copper between them to the substrate beneath. Be careful not to go too deep. There can be other layers beneath that. Scratch, probe, scratch, probe...Check other places to be sure it's not shorting there too before scratching too far...Etc.

The other scratch looks fine to me. I don't think the little one is the problem.

 

[wwfc95]

Unlikely! What you describe could be many things, but none of them are good. If you paid for a working console, then you certainly did not get what you paid for. Attempt the return first! That's going to be your best option.

How loud does the fan get? Does it sound like a jet?

I'm working on a refund, waiting to see if I'm expected to pay the shipping without it being given back first, if that's the case then I'll end up keeping it and seeing about getting the GPU replaced as it seems to be a GLOD.
It'll play Gran Turismo 6 fine for about 20 minutes to half hour then the system will either freeze up or it'll artifact carry on playing sound for a bit then lose all audio, which I have to hold the power button for about 10 seconds to force it to turn off. Fans don't ramp up at all really, I can hear it spinning but never gets loud.

It's a very peculiar system as the warranty sticker is still in place, it doesn't seem to have been replaced or carefully taken off and put back but none of the vents or ports seem overly dusty.

 

[RIP-Felix]

thank you all for the replies. So here is what i did as felix asked and this is what I have. I havent measured the resistance yet. The CPU says its ON, is that a good sign? maybe the scratch isnt as bad as i think. What are your thoughts?

Spoiler

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\XXXX>cd c:\python27\scripts
c:\Python27\Scripts>python ps3_syscon_uart_script.py COM3 CXRF
>$ AUTH
Auth successful
>$ bringon
bringon
*** Unknown Command ***
[mullion]$
>$ bringup
bringup
[SSM] state: 0000 -> 0101
Bringup Mode #0 (0xFF)
[SSM] ssmCb_OnStartingBePowOn() called.
[SSM] First Boot.
[SSM] Bringup mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Setup called.
[SSM] state: 0101 -> 0201
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Setup
[SSM] state: 0201 -> 0102
[SSM] state: 0102 -> 0202
[SSM] state: 0202 -> 0103
[SSM] state: 0103 -> 0203
[SSM] ssmCb_BeforeBeOn() called.
[SSM] state: 0203 -> 0104
Psbd_SbTransMode_Half:0x20e2
>$
[SSM] state: 0104 -> 0204
[SSM] state: 0204 -> 0105
[SSM] state: 0105 -> 0400
(PowerOn State)
[SERV NVS] READ CMD
Boot Loader SE Version 1.0.0 (Build ID: 1673,16934, Build Data: 2006-1
:57)
Copyright(C) 2006 Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.All Rights Reserved.
[SERV SETCFG] XDR (CH0,CH1) ASSERT
[SERV SETCFG] XDR (CH0,CH1) DEASSERT
[ERROR]: 0xb0002001 (FATAL) XDR Link not initilized.
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ATA Power : ON
PCI Power : OFF
RSX Power : ON
XDR Power : ON
Eurus Power : ON
SB Power : ON
RSX Thermal Sensor : AVAILABLE
BE Thermal Sensor : AVAILABLE
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Bringup : 3567 times
Shutdown: 3431 times
Power-on: 175day 15hour 08min 44sec
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[SERV NVS] WRITE CMD
shutdown
[SSM] state: 0400 -> 0500
[POWSEQ] AV Backend Letup
[SSM] ssmCb_AfterBeOn() called.
[SSM] Shutdown mode ... req_wake_src = 000000F4, ctxt=00/00
[SSM] Shutdown mode : syspm_stat=00000000/00000000
[POWSEQ] PowerSeq_Letup called.
[SSM] state: 0500 -> 0000
(PowerOff State)
>$ errlog
errlog
ofst[ 64]:err_code:0xffffffff, clock:0x0c29f1fc 2006/06/19 23:38:36
ofst[ 68]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0d07f7a8 2006/12/05 09:26:00
ofst[ 72]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0d666059 2007/02/15 00:05:45
ofst[ 76]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0e84dfd9 2007/09/20 07:38:01
ofst[ 80]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0e84e126 2007/09/20 07:43:34
ofst[ 84]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0e9880f2 2007/10/05 04:58:26
ofst[ 88]:err_code:0xa0802022, clock:0x0ea28ffc 2007/10/12 20:05:16
ofst[ 92]:err_code:0xa0802022, clock:0x0ea29061 2007/10/12 20:06:57
ofst[ 96]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0ea94507 2007/10/17 22:11:19
ofst[100]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0eed2b6a 2007/12/08 10:16:10
ofst[104]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0f089f0d 2007/12/29 06:00:45
ofst[108]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0x0f08a1df 2007/12/29 06:12:47
ofst[112]:err_code:0xa0801701, clock:0x0f13322f 2008/01/06 06:31:11
ofst[116]:err_code:0xa0801601, clock:0x0f13322f 2008/01/06 06:31:11
ofst[120]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f13324e 2008/01/06 06:31:42
ofst[124]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f13334a 2008/01/06 06:35:54
ofst[ 0]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f133351 2008/01/06 06:36:01
ofst[ 4]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f13440b 2008/01/06 07:47:23
ofst[ 8]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f134411 2008/01/06 07:47:29
ofst[ 12]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f146e3a 2008/01/07 04:59:38
ofst[ 16]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f149dc7 2008/01/07 08:22:31
ofst[ 20]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0x0f17f909 2008/01/09 21:28:41
ofst[ 24]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 28]:err_code:0xa0403034, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 32]:err_code:0xa0801001, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 36]:err_code:0xa0801103, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 40]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 44]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 48]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 52]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 56]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
ofst[ 60]:err_code:0xa0902203, clock:0xffffffff
[mullion]$
>$ lasterrlog
lasterrlog
Last Error Code:0xa0902203, Time:0xffffffff
[mullion]$

That all means you RSX and CPU are recieving power and are ready to work. So good news there. The console is failing in the 90 state, which is the shutdown state. Meaning it's making it past the boot process. So nothing wrong with power. It's stating an "XDR Link not initilized" and continues freaking out like that until shutdown. That means it can't communitcate between the CPU and RAM, there is a short or break in the data line connecting them. Which is probably that scratch! If not, then it's a BGA.

Did you say you tried to boot into recovery mode? Can you try rebuilding the database? That's the only other thing to try.

Just making note of the usage on your console. From looking at other consoles with YLOD due to 3034 error codes (typically RSX issues, such as BGA or bumps), they tend to fail around the 150-300 days of use mark (3600 - 7200 hours). Yours is right on schedule at the 175 day mark.

 

[Kleon1876]

That first picture looks suspect to me in 2 places.

1. Check the trace for continuity from the top of the scratch to the bottom of the scratch.
   • Where the solder mask is missing the trace could have gotten broken. Where the mask is intact it should be fine. So probe both ends of the trace to see if it has continuity. That means one of 2 things:
     1. The trace is intact or...
2. Check the trace for continuity with the ground plane next to it.
   • That means you scratched the trace and ground. Now there is no separation between them and have a short.
     
   • You need to separate them again, by scratching away the copper between them to the substrate beneath. Be careful not to go too deep. There can be other layers beneath that. Scratch, probe, scratch, probe...Check other places to be sure it's not shorting there too before scratching too far...Etc.

View attachment 33467
The other scratch looks fine to me. I don't think the little one is the problem.

Thanks felix and
Vyk. I'll read over the posts and might attempt. I'm not sure if my multimeter read continuity..it doesn't have the beep function and I have seen seen vids where when they check continuity it beeps.

 

[RIP-Felix]

Depends on the meter you have. But yours will have resistance. Touch the leads together to know what a dead short should read (it should be 0 ohms, but meters often don't read it accurately). Then consider anything that reads the same, or within 1 ohm of it, a short. Continuity just means the same thing, conductors are supposed to be in continuity. We just use the term "short" when 2 conductors that are not supposed to be in continuity with each other are.