Temperatures for Slim [CECH-2504B]?

Well, is the kind of thing that could happen, but i dont think i would have reached that point, to break the motherboard like that is needed a lot of force, lol. Is brutal delidding

One of the reasons why it broke like that is because under CELL there is a squared "hole" in the motherboard that is not soldered, he took off all that area of the hole


Btw, this KTE-001 motherboard belongs to a CECH-30xx .. is the last PS3 Slim model... so dont try to delid the CELL on this ones either
Is a coincidence, but it matches with the PS3 models compatibles with CFW... CECH-30xx or newer = no CFW = no CELL delidding


Well, the CELL delidding can be made, there is a photo in the forum posted the other day that looks fine... but is not worthy
Also, we dont really know if sony was using different thermal glues in the different factories... so it could be a lottery
If the thermal glue used in this specific PS3 unit is super strong and you try to delid it you are going to break it
 
sandungas said:
Well, is the kind of thing that could happen, but i dont think i would have reached that point, to break the motherboard like that is needed a lot of force, lol. Is brutal delidding

One of the reasons why it broke like that is because under CELL there is a squared "hole" in the motherboard that is not soldered, he took off all that area of the hole


Btw, this KTE-001 motherboard belongs to a CECH-30xx .. is the last PS3 Slim model... so dont try to delid the CELL on this ones either
Is a coincidence, but it matches with the PS3 models compatibles with CFW... CECH-30xx or newer = no CFW = no CELL delidding


Well, the CELL delidding can be made, there is a photo in the forum posted the other day that looks fine... but is not worthy
Also, we dont really know if sony was using different thermal glues in the different factories... so it could be a lottery
If the thermal glue used in this specific PS3 unit is super strong and you try to delid it you are going to break it
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true and what you've said it comes with a lot of sense really.
yeah i know where the cell is theres a gap and that's what he completely ripped out.
you're right and i totally agree , this stuff is not worth it . at all.
and yes very good point!
cfw consoles could be potentially delided but non-cfw compatible consoles deffo don't try and do it. i learnt my lesson , deffo won't do it again. i can't afford on keeping buying consoles for the sake of breaking them. it's ok to open them and least change thermal paste but that's as far as i'll go from now on.
Mine was cfw compatible but look what happened. I basically just wrecked a perfectly good console for nothing.
So it's best to stay out of it really. Unless you can afford buying a lot of ps3's for this stupid niche of removing ihs boards for the sake of 2-3 degrees lower?
No thanks.
 
hahaha well sometimes u have to wreck a console to learn, ive done exactly the same as him when i was asked to do a thermal paste change on a 3k model for a customer. At the time there was no info on the net or anyone that had done this before to show the risks but i thought **** it why not cant be that bad, boy was i wrong hahaha. I ended up having to replace the customers console with the tail between my legs but u learn from these mistakes and how to tackle them next time. I have seen some 2.5k models that had the same cell so only the later KTE motherboards got these but best way to tell as soon as u open the console, look for a black surround under the IHS, if thats not there ur pretty right to know it will only have the silicon compound around the outer edge of the CPU.
 
Im still considering grabbing another slim , 21xx model that is since nakedsnake also recommended me that one due to the 25xx not being as reliable.
Thing is i know Ill deffo have to open it and change thermal paste and i know i always have a hard time removing the bottom plate because of those teeth.
Only reason I'm saying this its because these slim models can run cfw and run pratically and nearly all games while a superslim running hen probably will run a smaller list of games, but again i never had one so i can't really tell except from some info from other superslim owners in this forum.
So atm i dont know but maybe ill still get the superslim. I just cant be bothered opening stuff anymore. Just want a console to play games.
The superslim has a lot more screws than the slim but the bottom metal plate its real easy to remove so less risk for me.
Looking forward to my new friend and take good care of it even if it doesnt run all the games like on a cfw there might be workarounds to get such games to work.
Never had a hen console before so im sure ill learn a few new things on how to anyways.
If I'll get really stuck and i say this because i always google a lot of stuff before on how and what to get to save time , i can always come here and ask for help as this community is absolutely fantastic.
 
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25xx is not less relliable than 21xx, actually are pretty similar
The difference is CECH-25xx have a new revision of CELL, RSX, RAM chips, a new Bluray drive, and the bluray controller chip is integrated in the motherboard
Also it have a new revisions of the ethernet LAN chip, and the wifi/bt module too

The CECH-25xx is the first PS3 model where you can remove the bluray drive completly and the PS3 will keep working normally without it
In previous PS3 models (ilke CECH-21xx) you cant do this, because inside the bluray drive there is a board that is "paired" (or married) with the main motherboard, if you replace it you will need to do a "remarry" of the bluray board, or either use a noBD CFW (that are rare to find and this means problems)
 
sandungas said:
25xx is not less relliable than 21xx, actually are pretty similar
The difference is CECH-25xx have a new revision of CELL, RSX, RAM chips, a new Bluray drive, and the bluray controller chip is integrated in the motherboard
Also it have a new revisions of the ethernet LAN chip, and the wifi/bt module too

The CECH-25xx is the first PS3 model where you can remove the bluray drive completly and the PS3 will keep working normally without it
In previous PS3 models (ilke CECH-21xx) you cant do this, because inside the bluray drive there is a board that is "paired" (or married) with the main motherboard, if you replace it you will need to do a "remarry" of the bluray board, or either use a noBD CFW (that are rare to find and this means problems)
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thanks for the info.
yeah so the parts from the 25xx won't work on a 21xx model.
that's ok.
thanks for letting me know about the bd drive. least i won't be surprised to see that the top isn't covered like on the 25xx model (which makes it even easier to clean the lens if needed).
i ended up grabbing a 21xx model because at least i know how cfw etc works and all my games will work unlike the later models plus a cfw ps3 is tons better.
i haven't got it yet but it'll come in soon maybe at the end of the week or by the weekend who knows.
The only game i found that has problems is Condemned 2 for some strange reason.
Freezes at launch even when it needs updated.
Managed to get it working but game's shit anyways.

About the console , i won't open it straight away as i will have a peek and play some games with the factory stuff and see how it goes.
i ordered a pair of anti static gloves along with artic mx4.
after that if the ps3 needs repasted because it's a 21xx model released in 2010 that's 9 years on top so it'll probably need a fresh paste and after that i won't be touching it again in another 8-9 years time.

Edit: couldn't care less about the under the ihs stuff anymore. also some games will always make the ps3 reach temps of 75c or bit more such as TLoUS .
So disregard messages that temps of 70ish are dangerous. It's bullshit.
And no point using fan managers because it will strain the fan.
The Ps3 manual states that it's normal for the machine to be that hot. And as Sandungas said, these machines are not pc's and it's normal they heat up that much.
If anybody should worry about temps , worry if one chip is way hotter than the other one by temperature differences of 20c or more.
If you change thermal paste and same still happens then it could be damaged due to performing to extreme high temperatures above 80c for long periods of time (same as overclocking things without proper and extreme cooling methods).
Take note that if you're playing demanding games and the rsx is hotter that's normal.
At least from my experience so far , some other users console's the cpu can be hotter but either way that's normal (i'll see how my 21xx will perform).
Also , some games freezing don't mean there's anything wrong with the console but with the programming instead (ex. Singularity freezing on some loading points).
IHS removals , I don't recommend. At all. So please don't ask me about it.
 
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Filipe Santos said:
Hi Ben I was looking at your temps again and that 80c cpu with rsx so much lower is really puzzling but I'll tell you best you can do is just opening it and replace thermal paste on both and do it very carefully specially removing the motherboard.
Then only after you put it all together you can see if there's any difference.
Thing is there's like 20c difference in between which is something that I would worry.
If you've changed thermal paste then depending on your ps3 model it'll need a ihs removal but I don't recommend it. I'd get an expert to do it if he's willing to.
If nothing is done then your ps3 will probably die.

Regarding software , you can control and limit fan speeds but that will only mask the issue , it won't fix it even if you turn the fan real high with time the fan motor might break too. So it's a no win situation really.
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Alright
 
hope it's ok to push such an old thread, but maybe it's useful for someone.

got a CECH-2504b this week and while idling in mmCM for like 30 minutes, i already had like 69°-70° on both cell and rsx with stock fan speed.
thought that it's kinda hot for idling and so i removed the warranty sticker and opened it up but it was really clean inside for such an old console. the paste also didn't looked that bad, still i added new one and cleaned everything.

but now the temps are just the same as before while idling. so i tried gran turismo 6 for 2 hours and the max temperature was like 72° on cell and 75° on rsx with stock fan speed. i thought it would go much higher in games, like critical high.

while 75° on rsx may not be perfect, i think it's pretty ok cause i use stock fan speed and the console is pretty quiet for ps3's in general. also my room has like 28° so this adds to it too. i doubt that replacing the thermalpaste underneath the DIE's would change that much, maybe little bit if i use liquid metal but it's not worth the risk.

i was really worried about the temperatures in the beginning but now i think some models just run hotter, because of another cooler design for example and that there is nothing to worry about, if you know the paste is ok and the cooler makes good contact.
still if you got no problems with fan noises, you could push the fan a little bit with webman, so your console will maybe live a few months more.
 
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