PS5 Unreal Engine 5 running on Playstation 5 is revealed

How do You know that? We don't know ANYTHING about this console. We would can talk about it once retail console will be released and tear apart. Everything what everyone is stated are just words forged in PR basements without any cover in facts. The same for SXS. All those speculations are just speculations.
 
How do You know that? We don't know ANYTHING about this console. We would can talk about it once retail console will be released and tear apart. Everything what everyone is stated are just words forged in PR basements without any cover in facts. The same for SXS. All those speculations are just speculations.
It's a fact PS5 has the fastest SSD in the world.
 
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So long the "Sky keeps in blue color" :)
I am answering you here because you closed my thread, Geoff Has confirmed it is a gameplay and its not fanboyism everything i say i say with facts, i respect your opinion but atleast dont close my thread without any reason, this isnt the first time you doing this.
 
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I am answering you here because you closed my thread, Geoff Has confirmed it is a gameplay and its not fanboyism everything i say i say with facts, i respect your opinion but atleast dont close my thread without any reason, this isnt the first time you doing this.

Yes it is Blind fanboyisum... you said in the other thread the PS5 SSD is the fastest in the world...? Then how come a new SSD has been released and is available to buy that is WAY faster then the PS5's....? Over x2 quicker...

Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 AIC SSD 8TB > Read/Write speeds of up to 15,000 MB/s = 15GB/s Max @ Optimal Conditions
[ Runs on PCIe v4.0 and NVME v1.4 ]

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Solid-State-Drive/AORUS-Gen4-AIC-SSD-8TB/sp#sp

PS5 Custom SSD > Read/Write Speeds of up to 9 GB/s MAX @ Optimal Conditions

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7133...-with-custom-12-channel-controller/index.html


So this Gigabyte AORUS SSD, which runs on the same PCIe v4.0 principles as the PS5 SSD is over DOUBLE the speed of the PS5 SSD... I back my statements up with FACTS & PROOF to back it up .... read and weep in your Fanboy hype....

Massive LOL... it's not even out yet and its been beaten on the SSD front .... So your not talking facts its fanboy hype.

Also S@ny's CEO say's " there is nothing like the PS5 SSD out there for any type of money that will match the PS5's SSD for performance..." YET HERE IT IS.... PS5 SSD = Crushed and destroyed before launch..

Also the speed is because the CPUs have direct access to it via PCIe v4.0 lanes, this is how NVME SSDs work, meaning there is no secondary chip-set to control this or act as a buffer as the PCIe controller is on the CPU not using a Southbridge Chipset like SATA..... And yes it going to be NVME SSD as SATA is nowhere near fast enough for these speeds.

How can we even be sure or close on these things..? Because it's based on PC architecture [ PCIe v4.0 ] and is more or less a Small Form Factor [SFX] PC, and also the fact that the expansion SSD is confirmed to be NVME .... again to match the Internal SSD storage speeds as the CPU has direct access to it.

So please get your fact's right before going on a fan boy hype or posting NON facts!!!!
 
Yes it is Blind fanboyisum... you said in the other thread the PS5 SSD is the fastest in the world...? Then how come a new SSD has been released and is available to buy that is WAY faster then the PS5's....? Over x2 quicker...

Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 AIC SSD 8TB > Read/Write speeds of up to 15,000 MB/s = 15GB/s Max @ Optimal Conditions
[ Runs on PCIe v4.0 and NVME v1.4 ]

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Solid-State-Drive/AORUS-Gen4-AIC-SSD-8TB/sp#sp

PS5 Custom SSD > Read/Write Speeds of up to 9 GB/s MAX @ Optimal Conditions

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7133...-with-custom-12-channel-controller/index.html


So this Gigabyte AORUS SSD, which runs on the same PCIe v4.0 principles as the PS5 SSD is over DOUBLE the speed of the PS5 SSD... I back my statements up with FACTS & PROOF to back it up .... read and weep in your Fanboy hype....

Massive LOL... it's not even out yet and its been beaten on the SSD front .... So your not talking facts its fanboy hype.

Also S@ny's CEO say's " there is nothing like the PS5 SSD out there for any type of money that will match the PS5's SSD for performance..." YET HERE IT IS.... PS5 SSD = Crushed and destroyed before launch..

Also the speed is because the CPUs have direct access to it via PCIe v4.0 lanes, this is how NVME SSDs work, meaning there is no secondary chip-set to control this or act as a buffer as the PCIe controller is on the CPU not using a Southbridge Chipset like SATA..... And yes it going to be NVME SSD as SATA is nowhere near fast enough for these speeds.

How can we even be sure or close on these things..? Because it's based on PC architecture [ PCIe v4.0 ] and is more or less a Small Form Factor [SFX] PC, and also the fact that the expansion SSD is confirmed to be NVME .... again to match the Internal SSD storage speeds as the CPU has direct access to it.

So please get your fact's right before going on a fan boy hype or posting NON facts!!!!
The aorus gen4 aic is not a ssd itself but you can add ssd inside it you can add like 4 ssd 2TB and make it 8TB please read more before talking, PS5 will have ssd slots as well. Dont talk before even knowing what you're saying.
 
Dont talk before even knowing what you're saying.

Typical FAN BOY response ... you show them something better and faster but they still say " no this is better " it pathetic lol, grow up.

I know exactly what I am talking about fan boy ... I build PCs for people in my spare time and have done for years ... you put the NVME SSD inside and 15GB/s MAX speeds as its using the PCIe lanes and bandwidth with direct access to the CPU jsut the same as a GPU so you get way better speed... Also the 2GB cache and controllers are on the AORUS gen3 so in essence it a "Custom" SSD and you get to pick which NVME goes in so you can keep costs down but get hyper performance.

You can buy it fully populated or choose you own. Go learn a thing or 2 instead of being a blind sheep fan boy and believing all the crap thats out there, I am a fan of the PlayStations, I have always had one, but I am blind to what is better.

So try to get this thought your seemingly THICK skull........ The PS5 is going to be a great next gen console for people who cannot afford or want to build a high end PC > this is what hey are made for in the first place, BUT is going to be outdated as soon as its launched for the simple fact that PC tech moves faster and is updated faster, nothing more and nothing less.

EDIT: Also the Custom 12 Channel controller on the PS5 is doing exactly the same as the 16 Channels (ie PCIe Lanes more or less) on this AUROS SSD.... So the PS5 SSD would be PCIe 4.0 x12 v AORUS SSD PCIe 4.0 x16.
 
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Typical FAN BOY response ... you show them something better and faster but they still say " no this is better " it pathetic lol, grow up.

I know exactly what I am talking about fan boy ... I build PCs for people in my spare time and have done for years ... you put the NVME SSD inside and 15GB/s MAX speeds as its using the PCIe lanes and bandwidth with direct access to the CPU jsut the same as a GPU so you get way better speed... Also the 2GB cache and controllers are on the AORUS gen3 so in essence it a "Custom" SSD and you get to pick which NVME goes in so you can keep costs down but get hyper performance.

You can buy it fully populated or choose you own. Go learn a thing or 2 instead of being a blind sheep fan boy and believing all the crap thats out there, I am a fan of the PlayStations, I have always had one, but I am blind to what is better.

So try to get this thought your seemingly THICK skull........ The PS5 is going to be a great next gen console for people who cannot afford or want to build a high end PC > this is what hey are made for in the first place, BUT is going to be outdated as soon as its launched for the simple fact that PC tech moves faster and is updated faster, nothing more and nothing less.

EDIT: Also the Custom 12 Channel controller on the PS5 is doing exactly the same as the 16 Channels (ie PCIe Lanes more or less) on this AUROS SSD.... So the PS5 SSD would be PCIe 4.0 x12 v AORUS SSD PCIe 4.0 x16.
Well you are breaking many people's PC. As much as you talk as much as you seem to not know thats not a ssd you can put SSD in there.
 
Yes it is Blind fanboyisum... you said in the other thread the PS5 SSD is the fastest in the world...? Then how come a new SSD has been released and is available to buy that is WAY faster then the PS5's....? Over x2 quicker...

Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 AIC SSD 8TB > Read/Write speeds of up to 15,000 MB/s = 15GB/s Max @ Optimal Conditions
[ Runs on PCIe v4.0 and NVME v1.4 ]

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Solid-State-Drive/AORUS-Gen4-AIC-SSD-8TB/sp#sp

PS5 Custom SSD > Read/Write Speeds of up to 9 GB/s MAX @ Optimal Conditions

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7133...-with-custom-12-channel-controller/index.html


So this Gigabyte AORUS SSD, which runs on the same PCIe v4.0 principles as the PS5 SSD is over DOUBLE the speed of the PS5 SSD... I back my statements up with FACTS & PROOF to back it up .... read and weep in your Fanboy hype....

Massive LOL... it's not even out yet and its been beaten on the SSD front .... So your not talking facts its fanboy hype.

Also S@ny's CEO say's " there is nothing like the PS5 SSD out there for any type of money that will match the PS5's SSD for performance..." YET HERE IT IS.... PS5 SSD = Crushed and destroyed before launch..

Also the speed is because the CPUs have direct access to it via PCIe v4.0 lanes, this is how NVME SSDs work, meaning there is no secondary chip-set to control this or act as a buffer as the PCIe controller is on the CPU not using a Southbridge Chipset like SATA..... And yes it going to be NVME SSD as SATA is nowhere near fast enough for these speeds.

How can we even be sure or close on these things..? Because it's based on PC architecture [ PCIe v4.0 ] and is more or less a Small Form Factor [SFX] PC, and also the fact that the expansion SSD is confirmed to be NVME .... again to match the Internal SSD storage speeds as the CPU has direct access to it.

So please get your fact's right before going on a fan boy hype or posting NON facts!!!!
Easy there buddy, the PS5'S SSD max is 22GB/s, watch Cerny's TEDtalk
 
Well you are breaking many people's PC. As much as you talk as much as you seem to not know thats not a ssd you can put SSD in there.

https://blogs.umass.edu/Techbytes/2018/02/23/types-of-ssds-and-which-ones-to-buy/

https://www.kingston.com/en/community/articledetail/articleid/48543

Read and learn on different types of SSDs and the connections they use... you will not win......

Your boring me now...Zzzzzz....Zzzzzz....Zzzzzz..... not my fault your thick and believe your own Bullsh!t.

No one has ever reported a problem with the PC I built for them, they all run fine. Your just picking at straws now trying to act the big hard clever little boy thats nothing more than a keyboard warrior lmfao....

Have a great day/evening or whatever in your own little fantasy land. I am done with you..........
 
I don't want to enter this discussion so I'm just going to leave my view on this and my sources at the end. Not trying to convince anyone nor to discuss further on the topic.

First of all, the PS5's specs.
Sony talks about a custom SSD, and whats custom about that SSD is the Flash Memory Controller. The flash memory controller is what manages storaged data on flash memory and communicates with the host machine. What this means is that Sony developed "the brains" of the SSD, but not how it communicates with the host machine. Sony talks about at least 5.5 GB/s and a 12 channel interface. The 5.5 GB/s are the minimal data transfer speed the flash memory controller can achieve when sending data to the host machine. It sends all this data through a 12 channel interface which we can assume is not custom as we have more than capable consumer level technologies that can achieve more than what the PS5 does, so they're probably using an already existent one.
The PS5 uses Zen 2 cores, which probably means no PCIe 4.0, only 3.0. If we assume this SSD uses an NVMe interface, then the theoretical max speed it can achieve on PCIe 3.0 x16 is 15.75 GB/s. They're talking about "12 channels", translating this to 12 PCIe 3.0 lanes we can see that the advertised 9 GB/s are more than possible as the maximum speed using 12 lanes would be around 11.8 GB/s.

Now let's talk about NVMe.
The PS5 has NVMe expansion slots, and as such, we can assume that the main SSD will also use NVMe as it is an industry standard and it wouldn't make a lot of sense to mix and match different memory standards. NVMe explicitly works with PCIe, as NVMe is the standard which we can use to access non-volatile memory thourgh a PCIe bus. If the main SSD works under NVMe then it works uner PCIe standards, if it uses Zen 2 cores then the PCIe Bus is a PCIe 3.0 Bus, if this is the case ten the SSD's max data transfer speed is capped at 15.75 GB/s on 16 lanes, we know the PS5's SSD flash memory controller uses 12 "channels" which we may assume translates to 12 PCIe lanes, then the speed cap is around 11.8 GB/s, the advertised speed (between 5.5 and 9 GB/s) is well between the PCIe 3.0 limits.

Then I'll conclude that the PS5's SSD works under PCIe 3.0, using an NVMe drive that has a custom flash memory controller that uses 12 lanes and achieves speeds higher than 5.5 GB/s but not higher than 11.8 GB/s (unless it uses more memory lanes or they change their processors to Zen 3 architecture which works with PCIe 4.0 and could mean higher data transfer speeds).

( Flash memory controllers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory_controller ; PS5 specs: https://www.techradar.com/news/ps5#section-ps5-specs ; PCIe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express ; NVMe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express ; Zen 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_2 ; Zen 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_3 )
 
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I don't want to enter this discussion so I'm just going to leave my view on this and my sources at the end. Not trying to convince anyone nor to discuss further on the topic.

First of all, the PS5's specs.
Sony talks about a custom SSD, and whats custom about that SSD is the Flash Memory Controller. The flash memory controller is what manages storaged data on flash memory and communicates with the host machine. What this means is that Sony developed "the brains" of the SSD, but not how it communicates with the host machine. Sony talks about at least 5.5 GB/s and a 12 channel interface. The 5.5 GB/s are the minimal data transfer speed the flash memory controller can achieve when sending data to the host machine. It sends all this data through a 12 channel interface which we can assume is not custom as we have more than capable consumer level technologies that can achieve more than what the PS5 does, so they're probably using an already existent one.
The PS5 uses Zen 2 cores, which probably means no PCIe 4.0, only 3.0. If we assume this SSD uses an NVMe interface, then the theoretical max speed it can achieve on PCIe 3.0 x16 is 15.75 GB/s. They're talking about "12 channels", translating this to 12 PCIe 3.0 lanes we can see that the advertised 9 GB/s are more than possible as the maximum speed using 12 lanes would be around 11.8 GB/s.

Now let's talk about NVMe.
The PS5 has NVMe expansion slots, and as such, we can assume that the main SSD will also use NVMe as it is an industry standard and it wouldn't make a lot of sense to mix and match different memory standards. NVMe explicitly works with PCIe, as NVMe is the standard which we can use to access non-volatile memory thourgh a PCIe bus. If the main SSD works under NVMe then it works uner PCIe standards, if it uses Zen 2 cores then the PCIe Bus is a PCIe 3.0 Bus, if this is the case ten the SSD's max data transfer speed is capped at 15.75 GB/s on 16 lanes, we know the PS5's SSD flash memory controller uses 12 "channels" which we may assume translates to 12 PCIe lanes, then the speed cap is around 11.8 GB/s, the advertised speed (between 5.5 and 9 GB/s) is well between the PCIe 3.0 limits.

Then I'll conclude that the PS5's SSD works under PCIe 3.0, using an NVMe drive that has a custom flash memory controller that uses 12 lanes and achieves speeds higher than 5.5 GB/s but not higher than 11.8 GB/s (unless it uses more memory lanes or they change their processors to Zen 3 architecture which works with PCIe 4.0 and could mean higher data transfer speeds).

( Flash memory controllers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory_controller ; PS5 specs: https://www.techradar.com/news/ps5#section-ps5-specs ; PCIe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express ; NVMe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express ; Zen 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_2 ; Zen 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_3 )
PlayStation 5 has custom PCIe 4.0 SSD
Read here: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7134...ep-dive-into-next-gen-storage-tech/index.html
 
Right... I may me out of whack as when all this went down... But I thought I just sorted this all out in another thread.

Seriously.... How many rules have been broken here?

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If I hadn't spent most of my moderator time banning pirate chatter today, I would've considered banning all 3 of you as well.
But hey, I can't be all bad guy and no good.

@Cypher_CG89
@Agoni212
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THIS STOPS RIGHT NOW.
 
So then, if it's PCIe 4.0 the CPU is a Zen 3, and that means a speed cap of 31.5 GB/s at 16 lanes, leaving around 23.6 GB/s max at 12 lanes (in theory, probably won't be near that as it may be split lanes, meaning we have 12 lanes but using them as "3 separate 4 lane drives"). So the most notable difference would be the memory controller, that uses 3 times more lanes than standard NVMe drives with 4 lanes.
When Sony compares their SSD with other PCIe drives "saturating" the bandwidth, they are comparing to 4 lane SSDs, not the full capabilities of each PCIe technology at 12 lanes. This SSD stuff if still pretty ambiguous, so we'll have to wait and see what we end up getting, but in my opinion it won't be saturating 12 PCIe 4.0 lanes at 23.6 GB/s.

And now as @Fin9ersMcGee said, this is pretty much thread derailing so this is my last take on the subject. Thanks @Agoni212 for the correction on the SSD's PCIe version.
 
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So then, if it's PCIe 4.0 the CPU is a Zen 3,

PS5 Specs > CPU is Zen2.....

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The last I am saying on the matter... its in black and white for all to read.
 
PS5 Specs > CPU is Zen2.....

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Unless they're referring as the 7nm Zen cores as Zen 2 and not Zen 3, then it's not possible to have PCIe 4.0 I guess, as I said on my first post. To me this still looks pretty ambiguous as I can't f*cking get to a consclussion objectively.

Edit: Forgot that Zen 2 is also called Zen+ and Zen 3 is also called Zen 2. So yeah, could be Zen 2 (7nm) and PCIe 4.0.
 
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On the actual footage...

I mean, wow. It does look gorgeous. And to be working on actual hardware at a demo level is a nice touch.
I am unfortunately living in the stone age (1080p60hz is the best I have) so anyone able to grace their eyes with any higher resolution I am jealous of right now lol.
 
On the actual footage...

I mean, wow. It does look gorgeous. And to be working on actual hardware at a demo level is a nice touch.
I am unfortunately living in the stone age (1080p60hz is the best I have) so anyone able to grace their eyes with any higher resolution I am jealous of right now lol.
Yes, most of textures were 8K.
 
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