XtremeEliteBoot+'s Dashboard Special Xmas Showcase

PS2 XtremeEliteBoot+'s Dashboard Special Xmas Showcase 2022-12-25

We're in the PS2SDK compiling environment, so...
as stated i was using basic and crude c++ as an example not the ps2SDK standard, that doesn't make my "code" wrong. I was writing in a way that you would run from a local terminal as a demonstration. i thought that was pretty clear?

This was something made exclusively for the Xmas build.
Also, blame it on 7-Zip. Before doing that Xmas release, I tested it with 7-Zip 19.00 x64 and, also, Directory Opus 12.12.
In both cases, it was PROPERLY extracted.
So, the regression is on 7-Zip's side. Report it to them, please.

The regression isn't on 7-zips side 7-zip is the go to for most people in the open source community, lacking compatibility with it is a problem on the dev side. 7zip is the most popular free (And open source!) archiver. It's kind of a given that any package SHOULD at least be compatible with it. The reason 7zip is broken is simple; it was packaged using unrar. Unrar lacks compatibility with most archivers due to license restrictions not allowing reverse engineering of the RAR file format. you should really package with the 7z format as its completely opensource, lacking that just use zip. BTW 7zip is one of the biggest archivers. Most people in the open source community refuse to use rar or winrar due to being proprietary closed source garbage. rar in general has been discouraged for packaging for years now in most circles.
 
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The regression isn't on 7-zips side
I think you don't know what a regression is.
If something was working before properly and then, after changes in the code, it is not functional, then that's what is called "a regression", so, yeah, that's a regression on 7-Zip's side.
lacking compatibility with it is a problem on the dev side
I think you missed the part where I said that I did tested it in 7-Zip at the time before the release. It is not my fault the messed their app afterwards.
it was packaged using unrar
Fun fact: It was not!
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I used Directory Opus, which uses... guess what by looking at the picture above!
 
This was something made exclusively for the Xmas build.
Also, blame it on 7-Zip. Before doing that Xmas release, I tested it with 7-Zip 19.00 x64 and, also, Directory Opus 12.12.
In both cases, it was PROPERLY extracted.
So, the regression is on 7-Zip's side. Report it to them, please.

Edit: I just redo the very same test from years ago, with the very same WinRAR version. No issues found. Video evidence in the RAR below:
the problem is rar itself, because the rar file format is closed source thereby creating incompatibility issues
I think you don't know what a regression is.
If something was working before properly and then, after changes in the code, it is not functional, then that's what is called "a regression", so, yeah, that's a regression on 7-Zip's side.

I think you missed the part where I said that I did tested it in 7-Zip at the time before the release. It is not my fault the messed their app afterwards.

Fun fact: It was not!
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I used Directory Opus, which uses... guess what by looking at the picture above!


You miss understand what i said and are acting aggressive over people correcting you, the way this is packaged IS indeed wrong, you can argue about it, you can be upset, but releasing in RAR format has been discouraged for YEARS now due to massive compatibility issues caused by it being a closed source format. that's just a fact. you don't have to like it. And I know what a regression is, don't be daft, i have an extensive GitHub profile that i can link you with my contributions on other projects. (Including the linux kernel ;o)
when multiple people tell you it is packaged wrong, it's packaged wrong. You can't just say "No it's not me it is everyone else who created the problem" otherwise, you won't learn. You don't have to resort to insulting people for trying to correct you and help. And yes "I don't think you know what a regression is" was clearly you trying to be insulting, and that's fine, but don't expect more people to help you when you act like that over people making suggestions and corrections. Just because i'm new here doesn't mean i don't have a plethora of experience being a dev and contributing to projects.
 
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the problem is rar itself, because the rar file format is closed source thereby creating incompatibility issues
The file has a proper structure which was properly interpreted by many archivers at the release date. Afterwards, 7-Zip fails to understand it 'cause they changed something in their code, so it is 7-Zip's fault.

You miss understand what i said and are acting aggressive over people correcting you, the way this is packaged IS indeed wrong, you can argue about it, you can be upset, but releasing in RAR format has been discouraged for YEARS now due to massive compatibility issues caused by it being a closed source format.
And, sadly, RAR is the most used compression format after ZIP. 7z does not supports what was made in the file, same goes to ZIP.

(Including the linux kernel ;o)
when multiple people tell you it is packaged wrong, it's packaged wrong.
I will turn this case scenario into a similar one.
I made a packed file in RAR, which, at the time of creating it, worked fine in every app, including 7-Zip Archiver.
Afterwards, the app you're using (7-Zip) had a regression and it fails to properly understand the contents of the package.
Now you're complaining I should have used 7-Zip instead, which is also problematic to users of more common apps, like, for example, extracting linked files from a 7z file using WinRAR or even some Android applications.
So, let's henshin it:
Let's say I made a Windows application in, obviously, EXE, which, at the time of creating it, worked fine everywhere, including Wine.
Afterwards, the app you're using to run it (Wine) had a regression and it fails to properly run my application.
Now you're complaining I should have used Java instead and compile it as JAR, which is also problematic to users, since some applications break from a Runtime Environment to the other.
See where I'm going with this?
And yes "I don't think you know what a regression is" was clearly you trying to be insulting
It was not. I was pointing out that, by reading your message, I didn't honestly thought you know what a regression was and used the work just because I also used it. And I was careful to quote "The regression isn't on 7-zips side" so people who read what I was going to say don't get the wrong idea of me trying to insult you, like you just said. It wasn't the intention at all. It was me saying "don't use words you don't know the meaning of", but that was way too rude and probably you could know what the word meant in another context, so, I went with "I don't think you know...", trying to be as polite as posible since, I clearly didn't thought you knew it. And then, I provided an explanation.

Just because i'm new here doesn't mean i don't have a plethora of experience being a dev and contributing to projects.
That was, in fact, not what I understood since, before making code suggestions, I will first at least find out which language and environment they are using to, then, suggest a change. I will not drop C code in a Lua project out of the blue.
If I don't understand what language they are using or don't know how to code in that language, then I go with pseudo code as in "if (thing happens) do (this) or else (this_other_thing)".
Almost everyone I know with a long coding history on their backs does that.

don't expect more people to help you when you act like that over people making suggestions and corrections
I'm open to suggestions and corrections and I am very patient as many community members can confirm, but, from the very first moment, you went kinda harsh with *instructions are wrong, there are three folders*, when there were just one, and, *the folder is called XEB*, when it was actually XEBPLUS, etc. You never verified the issue wasn't in your end and constantly stated the problem was caused by me. You seem like a noob trying to act like a seasoned person, 'cause, as far as I know, seasoned users or devs are careful with not making mistakes like XEB and XEBPLUS as folder names when that's a kinda important detail in that context or the fact you're having a messed extracted folder structure because of you extracting thing to subfolders in subfolders every time, which is not, by many means, seasoned user behavior. I mean, mate, you even complained about tabs and a moderator had to point you in the right direction: https://www.psx-place.com/threads/x...pecial-xmas-showcase.38959/page-2#post-407724
So, yeah, sorry if I started to distrust everything you said afterwards, but this is a clear case of the boy who cried wolf on your side.
 
thats mighty pressumtious of you, Let me clear things up by stating my main languages i work with are mainly c++, python , and c#. Although my field of work is cyber security. My certs being CEH v12, ISC2, Linux+,Cisco CCNA, Security+, and PenTest+. I still dabble in dev work as a hobby and have contributed to hundreds of projects.
 
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Says the one who just introduced himself and avoided speaking about everything I said before. Okay! Sorry, mate. I have no time to waste on you. I could be helping many others by now, or coding. From now on, I will ignore your responses unless you start talking about a new topic or have a new question. Have a good day, night or whatever!
 
That's very unprofessional behaviour, im sorry that my suggestions upset you in some way.
My main issue(s) were simple suggestions on how to package this better for end user consumption. (The complaints being RAR use / using a password that you have to get out of the license agreement instead of just a simple package, etc) My main point(s) before pointing out the 7zip incompatibility was and has remained, this could be streamlined so much better, from a packaging perspective. Having the end user Jump through hoops (grabbing the agreement for the password, and extracting again) Not only can cause user error problems, But it also looks abit unprofessional. I'm sorry that my suggestions might have upset you, But they were in good faith. "Says the one who avoided xyz" is also very insulting when i could point out You're the one who's only contributions on github are forking other peoples projects, outside of that, very little contributions. i could have pointed out that the packaging is sloppy, the use of rar over zip, or the fact that this project hasn't moved forward since the xmas release YEARS ago, or the fact that you incorrectly tried to say #include<iostream> was incorrect c++, leads me to believe you don't know how to finish this project properly and / or are taking credit for others work (which some claim you are doing, hint hint; the leak happened), but i haven't up until this point. good day sir.
 
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That's very unprofessional behaviour,
I was very patient and professional up to a point. This project is for fun and I don't plan on taking the fun away from it or else, there will be no project. I have no time to waste and, since I live in this country, I also have no power to waste too.

Also, the project has not been moved forward because of problems in the SDK, not because of me, 'cause I keep adding things to it. I already explained that and demonstrated that many times. Shut up if you don't know what you're talking about and stop assuming.

leads me to believe you don't know how to finish this project properly
The SDK is so messed it can't be properly released until many issues are fixed.

and / or are taking credit for others work (which some claim hint hint; the leak happened),
The leak of an ELF which was from before the recode? Sure pal! Keep dreaming and guessing. This has been worked from the ground and many devs saw the progress when it was happening. Many testers also helped to correct issues in closed tests so, yeah, there are many who can come and clearly say: yeah, XEB+ was made by HWC from the ground up.

Congrats! You're the second person I will keep on perma-ignore. You're informed!
 
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I was very patient and professional up to a point. This project is for fun and I don't plan on taking the fun away from it or else, there will be no project. I have no time to waste and, since I live in this country, I also have no power to waste too.
you were actually rude from the jump, and got progressively more aggressive, all over simple suggestions on how to better this project, Look, i get it, New guy on the forum trying to give advice on your project, but you don't have to be so rude over someone trying to make a suggestion that will ultimately make this project better. If you would actually act nice for a change, i would help you finish this project, but no, i was treated with disrespect, assumptions,anger, and attempts at belittlement (that ultimately went nowhere).
 
talk about myself? i listed my qualifications because YOU said you assumed i was just some noob trying to act like a dev, and didnt know what languages i used. That wasn't me talking about myself out of hubris, i was correcting your assumption(s) about me. pressing ignore over someone suggesting stuff is very unprofessional and immature. i have been very respectful with my replies, you however have been rude,cavalier, and when corrected, blame everyone else. it's childish behaviour.
 

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