GPU and RSX temperature

LILCruz said:
Don't know if it is normal on my ps3 CPU always higher than RSX.
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It's normal. The CPU temp runs usually higher but the difference varies with ps3 models...

@Zwei
Ok so I am even more confused because according to your screenshot, in dynamic control the fan speed remains at 36%. Such fan speed makes very little noise....but it makes no sense to me either... It should be higher than the minimum fan speed you set up....

However I don't believe you are giving me the right info although I asked four times already....

So I am asking again, can you post a screenshot taken after 20mn gaming? We need to know at what speed your fan needs to run in dynamic mode to keep the RSX under 75c while gaming...

So reuse the settings you mentioned in OP, play a game for half an hour then, while the game is still running, use the PC browser to load the sMan cpursx.ps3 page & capture it!
 
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bguerville said:
It's normal. The CPU temp runs usually higher but the difference varies with ps3 models...

@Zwei
Ok so I am even more confused because according to your screenshot, in dynamic control the fan speed remains at 36%. Such fan speed makes very little noise....but it makes no sense to me either... It should be higher than the minimum fan speed you set up....

However I don't believe you are giving me the right info although I asked four times already....

So I am asking again, can you post a screenshot taken after 20mn gaming? We need to know at what speed your fan needs to run in dynamic mode to keep the RSX under 75c while gaming...

So reuse the settings you mentioned in OP, play a game for half an hour then, while the game is still running, use the PC browser to load the sMan cpursx.ps3 page & capture it!
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I'll do as soon as possible
As soon as get home
 
bguerville said:
It's normal. The CPU temp runs usually higher but the difference varies with ps3 models...

@Zwei
Ok so I am even more confused because according to your screenshot, in dynamic control the fan speed remains at 36%. Such fan speed makes very little noise....but it makes no sense to me either... It should be higher than the minimum fan speed you set up....

However I don't believe you are giving me the right info although I asked four times already....

So I am asking again, can you post a screenshot taken after 20mn gaming? We need to know at what speed your fan needs to run in dynamic mode to keep the RSX under 75c while gaming...

So reuse the settings you mentioned in OP, play a game for half an hour then, while the game is still running, use the PC browser to load the sMan cpursx.ps3 page & capture it!
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To have a more precise display that shows and updates the values in real time is better to do it with CCAPI or other api running in PC
This way you have a display with temperatures that is very precise, works while "ingame" and is going to show the temperature peaks that happens in specific points of the game with big graphics load
In that peaks the temperature can increase up to +5ºC (and stays in that temperature for a couple of seconds, and then decreases fast) so are important to meassure

Personally i think 70ºC is aceptable.... but if one of that temperature peaks happens then my console will go to 75º and that is too close to be dangerous
Specially because after some months of making this tests the ambient temperature can change, or the paste could decrease its efficiency, etc... so there are a few degrees of innacuracy we have to deal with
If you are in between 60ºC or 65ºC... is ok because there is a "security margin" for the peaks and innacuracy (+5 for the peaks and some more for innacuracy are not going to make any damage)
But if you are around 70ºC or 75ºC... is dangerous because there is no "security margin" (with the +5 for peaks and some more for innacuracy is going to be over 80ºC)

The point is in this example im using (when i said "70ºC is aceptable")... when calculating my "max temperature" i need to take in consideration the temperature peaks that happens "ingame"... so is not the 70ºC i said initially... but the 75ºC with the peaks

By looking at @Zwei screencaptures (not ingame) i can tell his "max temperature" while ingame is going to be bigger (around 5ºC more because the peaks)
 
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I have temperatures of CELL 63 and RSX 59 with a fan speed 54% I'm playing TLOU online for about 40 minutes. By the way, now the room I'm in is a bit hot.
 
bguerville said:
Sorry @samet2012, I don't understand your post....
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I mean, My PS3 are still every day it's the same turn on to startup, Fan is very crazy to speed up. I heard feel PS3 is crazy. I turn off PS3 then turn on back again. It's normal.

I don't know what is going my PS3 are really crazy in Fan speed, it's strange. I didn't install apps for Fan speed up settings, Also I've never changed for settings in webMAN MOD Fan speed.
 
What ps3 model is it?
Nothing sure what is going on here..

If you don't use any brew to control the app, you are using syscon just like a console on OFW.
Syscon isn't very aggressive & fan speed usually run very low at hex values from 0x33 (20%) on startup to 0x50 (30%) max.
The shutdown temp being around 85c, note that if your CPU or RSX reaches 85c you risk permanent damage.
 
That's a different story. The CECHL model is famous for its weird fan behaviour (among other things).
Your issue is common... Some workarounds have been suggested but no fix...
Nothing to do about it except change console! Lol
 
Either disable dynamic fan control in webmanmod, or shutdown using a plugin (or unload plugins before shutting down) to avoid the crazy fan speed on startup with those models.

Dynamic fan control on these models is a bit crazy. Fan makes twice as much noise just to shave off 5'C or so using dynamic control. Not worth using it at all with these models in my opinion.
 
self_slaughter said:
Either disable dynamic fan control in webmanmod, or shutdown using a plugin (or unload plugins before shutting down) to avoid the crazy fan speed on startup with those models.

Dynamic fan control on these models is a bit crazy. Fan makes twice as much noise just to shave off 5'C or so using dynamic control. Not worth using it at all with these models in my opinion.
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Tomorrow, I'm gonna try this.
 
bguerville said:
That's a different story. The CECHL model is famous for its weird fan behaviour (among other things).
Your issue is common... Some workarounds have been suggested but no fix...
Nothing to do about it except change console! Lol
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Quirky consoles indeed.... What do you recommend for a new console?
Should I just go with a 2502b or whatever the last downgradable slims were?

Normally don't find out about little quirks such as this until you specifically look for information on it after encountering it. lol
Would like a console that doesn't argue as much. :)
 
Personally I prefer slim models. I used 3 fat models & all slim models in the past years.
Currently I have a 210x & a 250x.
Some argue that earlier slims use better components, it is kinda true for a handful of parts but then again I have always found my 250x to be the best with temps & I have never really had any issue with the few "cheaper" parts used in 250x, on the contrary, the only issue I ever had with a slim was on a 200x.. lol
 
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Lol... I changed my thermal paste and get +3ºc on RSX and CPU +-0 ºc (buyed on 2011, slim250x). Well, is "acceptable".

After 50 minutes, Fan Speed 27% (Dynamic fan OFF) on IDLE:

CPU: 63 ºc
RSX: 66 ºc

I get better temps with old thermal paste (original 2011, from factory). Maybe i added less thermal paste on RSX, So much lazy to open the ps3 and rechange...
 
Those are good temps for a fan under 30% although on a 25xx the RSX temp is usually lower than the CPU's.
However the issues with overheating, especially for the RSX chip, are rarely happening when the ps3 is idle.
I think it would be more interesting to take note of your temps after 20/30mn in-game, if possible with a game that can stress the RSX, using high res textures etc...
Also if you decide to reopen the ps3 & add more paste on the RSX, remember that putting too much thermal paste is also counterproductive!
 
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@Zwei
Take your time, look for a console in good condition, especially as you live in a hot country where many consoles will definitely have taken a beating after a few years (a slim is now already 6/8 years old) especially if their owner didn't take good care of them.
Unless you order from the US/EU... Currently, in the EU, a slim to downgrade is worth around 120 bucks & about 140/150 bucks if it's already on CFW/OFW 3.55. Expect roughly the same prices in the US.

Some may disagree but if I were you I would probably look for a 6 year old 250x in good nick, this model usually gives some of the lowest RSX temps, on average of course.
For reference, in good working condition, the RSX temp should always be about 6-10C lower than the CPU on a 250x.
At 25C room temperature, when idle, the CPU can be kept under 68C with a fan speed between 36 & 42% max. After 20mn gaming with TLOU, the CPU can be kept under 68C with a fan speed of between 45 & 55%.
If ever the fan speed needs to rise above 65% to keep the CPU under 68C, don't buy the console!
Of course it might not be so easy to test a console for sale & few sellers will be able to tell you anything about temps... Another possible reason to consider buying from a reputable US seller, 150 bucks for a fully refurbished slim configured according to your wishes + about 30 bucks P&P is worth considering.

I suggest that you avoid phat models (especially CECHL! Lol) unless you are crazy for ps2 backwards compatibility. Even then, it makes little sense to invest in a 10 year old CECHA/B because imo if you really are a PS2 games fan then you should get a cheap second hand PS2!
 
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