GPU and RSX temperature

[Zwei]

@Zwei
Take your time, look for a console in good condition, especially as you live in a hot country where many consoles will have taken a beating after a few years especially if their owner didn't take good care of them. Unless you order from the US/EU. Currently, in the EU, a slim to downgrade is worth around 120 bucks & about 140/150 bucks if it's already on CFW/OFW 3.55. Expect roughly the same prices in the US.

Some may disagree but if I were you I would probably look for a 250x. Imo they give the lowest RSX temps.

Thank you for the advice
I will do this

 

[Woheth]

My ps3 slim burned, it was already
I'll buy another at the end of the month.

I'm sorry for you, man... I wish you better luck with the next Ps3.
É foda, irmão. Já perdi um CECH-2501 com GLOD e o prejú é amargo... Boa sorte no próximo!

 

[BackwoodsDee9]

Hello everyone! I have a bit of a bizzare problem with the ps3 I have just put back together. It's a cechh01 cfw running rebug. I flowed the mobo carefully because it had rlod and replaced the thermal paste properly. The system upon booting gets really HOT too fast.The fan would go from 0 to full speed within seconds and blink the classic red flash and display "system is too hot shutting down" and turn off. I thought maybe one of the thermistors is blown or I offset something putting it back together? I cleaned out the power supply? Took it apart again and then found a method to apply more pressure to the clamps on both chips. It seemed to be okay until I installed webman. I checked the temp in rebug toolbox and it read 82c as soon as I turned on the machine! Honestly? I did a system restore and deleted all the packages I had installed. I turned off the machine and booted it up the following day. I turned it on and I waited half an hour and re-checked... CPU 64c and RSX 46c and the fan is stable...WTF is going on here? I am thinking that the solder beneath the GPU/CPU is about to finally come apart after the re-flow. I don't know...any help?

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

For all of you worrying about the CELL, about deliding and all that jazz, just down, dont dare unless you want to risk a brand new board.

Your main concern should be the RSX, not the CELL, the RSX its the most sensitive chip of the entire unit, and to mantain it properly it needs to be under 70ºC or else in the long term high temperature, the underfill that connects the RSX Die to the Chip itself, gets disconnected, thus leading to YLOD, and reballing wont solve anything, all the GPU Chips work on the same principle, and these Nvidia Chips are the most shady chips of them all.

On the contrary, the CELL B/E was made for server applications, which can withstand high temperatures, without even making a nick on the chip, it was designed,much like Intel Xeons and AMD Opterons Server CPUs to run 24/7h on a condensed shell, do dont worry about getting 70/79ºC on the CPU,but i would advise to keep it under 80ºC,just precautions, and dont worry about the solder-joints either, with even with the CPU at 80ºC, the lead-free solder needs on averege 217ºC to disconnect to the board, but if you have corroded solder-joints then reballing would solve the issue, but you would need to be 100% sure,by applying pressure to the chips on an even area.

 

[BackwoodsDee9]

For all of you worrying about the CELL, about deliding and all that jazz, just down, dont dare unless you want to risk a brand new board.

Your main concern should be the RSX, not the CELL, the RSX its the most sensitive chip of the entire unit, and to mantain it properly it needs to be under 70ºC or else in the long term high temperature, the underfill that connects the RSX Die to the Chip itself, gets disconnected, thus leading to YLOD, and reballing wont solve anything, all the GPU Chips work on the same principle, and these Nvidia Chips are the most shady chips of them all.

On the contrary, the CELL B/E was made for server applications, which can withstand high temperatures, without even making a nick on the chip, it was designed,much like Intel Xeons and AMD Opterons Server CPUs to run 24/7h on a condensed shell, do dont worry about getting 70/79ºC on the CPU,but i would advise to keep it under 80ºC,just precautions, and dont worry about the solder-joints either, with even with the CPU at 80ºC, the lead-free solder needs on averege 217ºC to disconnect to the board, but if you have corroded solder-joints then reballing would solve the issue, but you would need to be 100% sure,by applying pressure to the chips on an even area.

I switched the settings in webman to Syscon and I am getting levels of cpu @ 72c and Rsx @ 51c that are constant after 20 mins...I have yet to game on it for a few hours to test it out. At least the fan isn't going from 0-high on boot within a couple seconds and then back down again. It was repeating this process over and over. I was worried about the mobo having rlod/ylod.

 

[SevenStars]

Hi everyone,

I'm the owner of a PS3 Slim 120GB (CECH-2004A) and, after installing WebMan, I have noticed some weird temperatures about CPU/RSX while playing Castlevania Lord of Shadow (BluRay copy). In synthesis CPU goes to 60/65°C, while the RSX reaches 80/85°C (and I received and overheating alert from WM).

I've opened the console, replaced thermal compound (Arctic MX4) above and under both the IHS and smoothed the RSX heatsink (it wasn't flat), as suggested in different places around the web. The situation was slighty better, but I had to set the fan speed at 40% (manual) to keep the RSX around 70°C while playing the game.
I tested other games (FFXIII and Mirror's Edge) and temperatures stay around 50 and 55 degrees respectively for CPU and RSX with custom fan speed on (still have to test without).

Now my questions are:
1. Is it normal to see this big difference in CPU and RSX for certain games?
2. Does the 1st generation slims heat so much without custom fan speed?
3. Is my RSX damaged and should I be ready to throw away the whole console? (I've already lost two fatties)
Thanks for all the answers!

 

[Filipe Santos]

For all of you worrying about the CELL, about deliding and all that jazz, just down, dont dare unless you want to risk a brand new board.

Hi everyone,

I'm the owner of a PS3 Slim 120GB (CECH-2004A) and, after installing WebMan, I have noticed some weird temperatures about CPU/RSX while playing Castlevania Lord of Shadow (BluRay copy). In synthesis CPU goes to 60/65°C, while the RSX reaches 80/85°C (and I received and overheating alert from WM).

I've opened the console, replaced thermal compound (Arctic MX4) above and under both the IHS and smoothed the RSX heatsink (it wasn't flat), as suggested in different places around the web. The situation was slighty better, but I had to set the fan speed at 40% (manual) to keep the RSX around 70°C while playing the game.
I tested other games (FFXIII and Mirror's Edge) and temperatures stay around 50 and 55 degrees respectively for CPU and RSX with custom fan speed on (still have to test without).

Now my questions are:
1. Is it normal to see this big difference in CPU and RSX for certain games?
2. Does the 1st generation slims heat so much without custom fan speed?
3. Is my RSX damaged and should I be ready to throw away the whole console? (I've already lost two fatties)
Thanks for all the answers!

it's hard to diagnose these problems really.

First and foremost : any console should NOT rely on fan mods in order to run normally.
Second : If your console's properly cleaned and thermal paste has been applied it should NOT cause any trouble.
Third : Temperatures around 70c are perfectly normal!

Your temps seem to be running fine.

My opinion : Keeping the chips at 50-55c is overkill.
I don't know about the rest... specially having to sand down the heatsink down because it wasn't ''flat''. That's what thermal paste is used for.

Regarding that Castlevania issue...
Why was your rsx that high?
Are you using manual fan controls?
As far as I understand... it was Webman that issued you the warning...
And why is that I might ask?


Regarding these shenanigans about the RSX is dangerous if it's running around 70c or so.
That's bollocks.

Here's an easy solution for everyone to end all your obsessions:
Want your console running cool as hell?
Don't switch it on.

PS3 average working temps are from 60c to 80c.
And if you doubt me , go talk to the 2 slims that I owned and the 3rd one I got now.

 

[Filipe Santos]

Hello everyone! I have a bit of a bizzare problem with the ps3 I have just put back together. It's a cechh01 cfw running rebug. I flowed the mobo carefully because it had rlod and replaced the thermal paste properly. The system upon booting gets really HOT too fast.The fan would go from 0 to full speed within seconds and blink the classic red flash and display "system is too hot shutting down" and turn off. I thought maybe one of the thermistors is blown or I offset something putting it back together? I cleaned out the power supply? Took it apart again and then found a method to apply more pressure to the clamps on both chips. It seemed to be okay until I installed webman. I checked the temp in rebug toolbox and it read 82c as soon as I turned on the machine! Honestly? I did a system restore and deleted all the packages I had installed. I turned off the machine and booted it up the following day. I turned it on and I waited half an hour and re-checked... CPU 64c and RSX 46c and the fan is stable...WTF is going on here? I am thinking that the solder beneath the GPU/CPU is about to finally come apart after the re-flow. I don't know...any help?

Hi.
Let me kindly help you.
Buy yourself a slim console.
Phats are notorious for major overheating issues,damaged Cell's and busted Nec/Tokins.
Your Cell is probably damaged if it's overheating like that.
Seriously.

Your cell seems to be running 20c higher.
That's a cause for concern.

Here's another example.
And nevermind the ''FIX''.
He never ''fixed'' anything.

 

[sandungas]

I switched the settings in webman to Syscon and I am getting levels of cpu @ 72c and Rsx @ 51c that are constant after 20 mins...

Do you have irisman, rebug toolbox, or multiman installed ? (are programs that displays the temperature)

The only test you should do now is starting from ambient (in other words, let the PS3 cool down all his parts for a couple of hours or more)... then boot the PS3 and enter in one of that programs as faster as posible.... and wait idle
After 30 minutes or so the temperatures of CELL and RSX should be pretty close to each other

By reading the temperatures you mentioned it looks you have a big problem in CPU... but repeat it again in the way i said to have a better meassurement

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[sandungas]

Hi everyone,

I'm the owner of a PS3 Slim 120GB (CECH-2004A) and, after installing WebMan, I have noticed some weird temperatures about CPU/RSX while playing Castlevania Lord of Shadow (BluRay copy). In synthesis CPU goes to 60/65°C, while the RSX reaches 80/85°C (and I received and overheating alert from WM).

I've opened the console, replaced thermal compound (Arctic MX4) above and under both the IHS and smoothed the RSX heatsink (it wasn't flat), as suggested in different places around the web. The situation was slighty better, but I had to set the fan speed at 40% (manual) to keep the RSX around 70°C while playing the game.
I tested other games (FFXIII and Mirror's Edge) and temperatures stay around 50 and 55 degrees respectively for CPU and RSX with custom fan speed on (still have to test without).

Now my questions are:
1. Is it normal to see this big difference in CPU and RSX for certain games?
2. Does the 1st generation slims heat so much without custom fan speed?
3. Is my RSX damaged and should I be ready to throw away the whole console? (I've already lost two fatties)
Thanks for all the answers!

Do the test i mentioned in my previous post

The point is... if you have a difference lets say... of 15ºC while doing the test i suggested in idle inside a program... then that difference when you boot a game is going to be a lot higher... lets say 25ºC or more, and in that state the PS3 cant work normally

In other words, the test i suggested is not going to tell you the max temperatures "ingame" neither the difference of them "ingame"... but is going to give you a roughtly approach of what is going to happen "ingame"

 

[Williesmallz]

I just got a ps3 fat 40gb model
Is it going to YLOD while playing GTA v
If its going to please how can I avoid it