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    Like any good community we have a wide variety of people each with their own skills. So nobody should feel like they aren’t keeping up with someone else. If you’re having fun, learning new things and helping when you can then you’re good.
    Knowledge on a subject doesn’t always make someone the best choice to put into a position of authority many times it’s the exact opposite.
     
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    But aah my competition genes are too much for me. I need to be first. For example I love it when im the first to respond to a post. :D idk whats wrong with me :(
     
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    The easiest way for members to give back to the community is by helping spread the news of releases. You see something released outside the forum and we have not spoke about it yet on the mainpage or forum. Make a post with a simple link if that is all you can do or have time for. That is so much better then nothing at all.

    Helps the writing staff out ALOT when life takes us away from the keyboard.

    You have to code to contribute to the community?

    I have done alot of things for the community without writing any code..

    I did things great hackers could not do.. So its not just writing code.
     
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    And just that could help speed any new project up if it seems interesting I guess :)
     
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    like many have been saying before, you can contribute to the PS community in many ways! don't feel bad if right now you can't help doing software development

    for example, recently I was talking with @DeViL303 and others about building a simple URL .txt list of homebrew apps to use with the PKGi PS3 app, so many users could use it as a PS3 Homebrew Store.
    That's something that many people could do, and doesn't require dev knowledge. It's just motivation to do it, and share it back with the community. (but yeah, it would need some internet connection to browse the web and copy the links)

    anyways, if you ever want to learn a bit more about development, just ask, many of us will be happy to guide you through the basics
     
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    I mean, even things like description text is always helpful I guess if it's for a Store-like application, now you mention that? Heck I'd help with that tbh if someone had in mind a thing for the PS2 that could let you do that!

    (Would probably be a neat idea too especially if you could update seamlessly from it and choose where to install files to, etc. - I'd even help draft a UI template on paper for such an application if I could perhaps do so, you've got me thinking now)

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    @ISAK.M - Think it might be wise to ask the mods to get the thread title changed to something like: "How can I contribute to the scene in ways other than coding?" or something like that?
     
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    the app (PKGi PS3) already supports descriptions, downloads and updates, so everything is done, the only thing missing for a neat "homebrew store" is building a list with the URLs, titles, and descriptions. But anyways I don't want to hijack this topic so if you want, check this thread.

    btw, about a PS2 store, I'm pretty sure it's doable, at least in a very simple way (connecting to the network, downloading .ELFs and saving them to USB or memory card). Perhaps a PS2 dev can validate this idea in a proper way.
     
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    I couldn’t imagine the scene without you, @Roxanne or Gregory. Just three of the greats that come to mind that from what I know don’t do much if any programming. For years it seemed like I didn’t see a news articles that didn’t have your name on them and the wiki so many of us would be totally lost without it.
     
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    Me and @Roxanne share the same birth date! I just noticed, though I'm born in 2001 lol :D
     
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    Well that just makes me feel old lol
     
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    No code or development skills was needed to unlock CobraUSB and help get it open sourced which lead to CobraCFW and future Cobra payload development. Which also help lead to background loading plugins as well..

    Just needed the right person at the right time to apply the needed pressure. :)
     
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    Woah im born in 2002, damn close.

    As for the rest, I guess you dont have do coding to contribute. I did do the Swedish translation for HAN Toolbox once, but that just feels like such a small achievement tbh.
     
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    But y'know, that's a pretty big thing for someone else who might not be as competent with English as you, or wants to keep the UX of their homebrew applications in their native language for consistency. :3
     
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    It is not so bad. Try appreciate things which You have. There are plenty of kids on this planet which literally dreams of life which You have... Human being have predisposition to constantly moving barriers like i.e when You a beggar You want bread, when You are a billionaire with 10 billions You want 100 etc. etc. but really, try appreciate what You already have, what You have experienced and what it gave You.

    That's nothing really important in life. Just a hobby. Slow down cowboy. :) It is nice doing something for other peoples but scene is not most important thing in civilisation. Everyone somehow contributing something to our lives. Some emptying trashes, some designing processor in Your phone, some unknown girl make smile for You while You walk in the park.

    There are many type of "tech dudes". Not all must be a programmers. In example I'm not, and still I'm one of the best IT Specialist on this planet (at least I'm feeling that ;p). And from time to time making some GUI's. ;p

    If I would show You my place, You would be depressed more than in current state (as I read between lines of Your posts). You are trapped in consumerism, didn't You? You comparing Yourself for other peoples totally unnecessary, as this always brings You sadness.
     
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    I dont know what consumerism means, but I did understand the part about comparing myself to others and yes ofc I do, my competitive genes makes me do that, I need to be the best but its so hard.
    Yes, it brings me sadness as im always at the bottom :( of society here in Sweden
     
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    My advice is the only person you should worry about being better than is yourself from yesterday.
     
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    If you would like to do more I think there are plenty of ways someone with no coding knowledge can help. I like to think I am proof there are loads of things you can do in the scene without any coding knowledge. All you need it to be a bit tech minded and understand how stuff is working on a real basic level and have some time free to keep up to date on stuff.

    For example you can just open up lots of files and start messing with them in a hex editor or other tools. Lots have never been modded. Then you see the results and that is how you learn. So much is still not known by anyone here and for lots of it you don't need coding knowledge to explore and make discoveries.

    I had never even seen an xml really before I started looking at ps3 stuff, I just knew it was a filetype. All i know about xml I learned from being in ps3 scene, now I am probably THE most prolific xmbml writer in the PS3 scene and now I don't find it hard to write new menus for PS3. That was all just trial and error at first.That lead me to learn about hex editing, a bit of html etc, still dont really know any code, but if I look at it I am starting to understand it more and more.

    One example of just diving in is my download plugin patches, there was no coding required there, just HxD and some time. Another example would be the discovery of net_package_install xml entry, it was never used in any xml but I saw it written in plain text in an sprx that I was browsing through and tried it in an xml and it worked. This is now maybe the no.1 method used to download and install custom pkgs on the ps3, (stores etc), and for a long time it was the only method available to install packages over 4GB on HEN (PKG Linker).

    Another example of coding not being required to do fun stuff : See this thread https://www.psx-place.com/threads/r...ization-custom_render_plugin-earth-qrc.27756/ , its super easy, no coding knowledge required, and tonnes of files are easy to edit with steps similar to these, maybe just different tools.

    And I just did a small video on editing earth.qrc to help even more. :)



    But there are a load of things that could be edited in this one file alone (earth.qrc), I have barely touched the surface. For example, see all these values in the qrc, there are hundreds of these.

    upload_2020-1-18_15-58-12.png

    No one knows exactly what all these do, we can only guess from the names, the only way to know is to start editing stuff and compare for changes. It's the only way to learn with unknowns like this.

    I have no coding knowledge and only started looking at the Gaia visualization a week ago, now with sandungas' help we have learned some new stuff and have some mods done already:

    Anyone with an idea for skin, an image editor, HxD and SimplyZip can do this kind of thing and lots of other things like it in other areas too. These steps would be exactly the same for injecting DDS files into lines.qrc too. Then as skills increase through repetition you can move onto more challenging things if you want to.



    The other thing you could do is jump on new stuff quick and go deep, its easy to become an expert with new stuff compared to other people and have knowledge to share then. For example when HAN first came out and no one knew anything, you could have been the guy who reinstalled it 20 times in a row until you know how to do it in your head and can spot issues before they even arise.
     
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    Im always better then yesterday me cause I learn from yesterdays mistakes.
    I dont have my PS3 anymore so its hard to do that, however I have started to get more into PS2 npw as its what I have modded rn. + soon my 360 will be modded im just waiting for the stuff to arrive from Hong Kong
     
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