Workz_777
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Ah o.k i understand, you are right i should have done it myself.
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PS2 [MX4SIO/SIO2SD] SD Card Adapter and SD-driver for the PS2 SIO2 interface
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Ah o.k i understand, you are right i should have done it myself.
Just to add to this I am unable to launch the OPL 1629 BDM build and have no disc drive connected to my slim because its broken. I have ordered one and it should be here in the week
Tested on a system with a fresh install of FMCB 1.966 only the single memory card + controller connected.
OPNPS2LD-v1.2.0-Beta-DB_all-2202-642fe4e-2021-11-14 launches without issues so I dont think the memory card is the problem, I have tried launching from usb and that also fails
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Versatile
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@Workz_777 , Thank you, it will be awhile before i update the list, but appreciate your testing!
However, to help save time, I'm thinking if people send me a request via the spreadsheet, i can grant people editing rights and you can add your own games and don't have to wait on me!
I wanted to confirm with you what is your pcb thickness, and also the case thickness? Who did you go with to print your PCB and also your 3d case?
Also, I'm planning to get my own PCB and 3d case eventually, and it looks like the microsd slot holder is out of stock everywhere. Does that match your findings as well too?
However, to help save time, I'm thinking if people send me a request via the spreadsheet, i can grant people editing rights and you can add your own games and don't have to wait on me!
Hiya Ronnie, i think for that budget it would need to be made of Gold!
And while i don't have a MX4SIO made of Gold yet to sell you...
....i do however have something for your budget, 24 carrat Gold Lego bricks!
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Could i interest you in some of these, while you wait for your MX4SIO?
EDIT ....oh wait, hold on, i do actually have a Gold MX4SIO, doh me!
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MX4SIO Gold (After Dark) Edition !
All contacts are gold electro-plated, even the logo!
It just arrived today, just after @Ronnie Sahlberg posted his message, i thought it would be funny to make a little joke before i posted the photos here. I do have a 3D printed case too...
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I wanted to confirm with you what is your pcb thickness, and also the case thickness? Who did you go with to print your PCB and also your 3d case?
Also, I'm planning to get my own PCB and 3d case eventually, and it looks like the microsd slot holder is out of stock everywhere. Does that match your findings as well too?
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Haker120
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@Versatile why even bother with submitting form since no new games appear only these from people with edit permissions?
Workz_777
Senior Member
MX4SIO PCB thickness, coming from the PDF manual is 1.55mm (1.6mm).
Its 3D printed case is designed to fit that PCB thickness only. The thinest part of the 3D case is the top-facing side, (with the transparent window effect so we can see the MX4SIO logo), is 0.3mm thick. This can be a problem for some 3D printing firms, who won't print at that minimum thickness (0.3mm). So if for example you want that section thicker, say 0.7mm, then the PCB would need to be changed / reduced from 1.6mm to 1.2mm thickness, else the PCB will sit higher than the case there. Most prototype PCB fabs, like OSHPark etc, print at 1.6mm as standard. Some PCB fabs have different PCB thickness options available like:- 1mm, 1.2mm, 1.6mm, 2mm etc.
BOM / Components, as you mentioned, the biggest issue right now is the world-wide IC / component stock shortages. Making it extremely hard to source the "reversed" Hirose MicroSD and SD connector slots from the MX4SIO BOM list. All the distributors (Mouser, Farnell, Digi-Key, etc) are out of stock. No joke there's currently an eBayer selling the "reversed" MicroSD slot (Hirose - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS) for £15 / $20 - per unit! I ended up sourcing some of the Hirose - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS from a Japanese distributer directly (at the correct price), only they had some stock left (probably because Hirose is also a Japanese company).
I feel at this point in time, it's not (well almost not) possible / feasible to build one until the components are back in stock again. I guess this gives you some time to check out local (to you) 3D printing firms, and PCB fabs that can meet your minimum requirement specs. The Devs of M4XSIO here, asked us to try and go locally for the 3D printing and PCB Fabs, and not to go with Chinese firms. However, if a person only wants 1 x unit of PCB and 1 x unit of 3D printed case, it's not gonna be cheap.
Any good news? Well... because of everything mentioned above, i was not able to only buy 1 x unit of each part needed for the build. In the end i had to buy more than i needed, so i have a few spare ones, just not the LED version.
So i was thinking of giving away, for free, my brand-new spare MX4SIO units to you guys! All assembled and ready to go! I have 5 complete spare units for grabs. To make it fair, maybe we could put some names in a hat and do a draw? Like a free raffle / lottery for those who want one. Then annouce the results here and PM the 5 winners so i can send them their MX4SIO. For transparency, i would aim to record the "pulling names from hat" and post the video here with the winning results.
Assembled:- (MX4SIO PCB + MX4SIO 3D printed case + 47 Ohm resistor + Hirose "reversed" MicroSD connector slot - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS)
In theory, i would aim to post the Announcement for the free Raffle / Draw here in this thread, and give it say 10 days from then to collect enough names / participants before actually pulling those names from a hat. I have 5 spare MX4SIO to give away for free! Watch this space!
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tktagmedia
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MX4SIO PCB thickness, coming from the PDF manual is 1.55mm (1.6mm).
Its 3D printed case is designed to fit that PCB thickness only. The thinest part of the 3D case is the top-facing side, (with the transparent window effect so we can see the MX4SIO logo), is 0.3mm thick. This can be a problem for some 3D printing firms, who won't print at that minimum thickness (0.3mm). So if for example you want that section thicker, say 0.7mm, then the PCB would need to be changed / reduced from 1.6mm to 1.2mm thickness, else the PCB will sit higher than the case there. Most prototype PCB fabs, like OSHPark etc, print at 1.6mm as standard. Some PCB fabs have different PCB thickness options available like:- 1mm, 1.2mm, 1.6mm, 2mm etc.
BOM / Components, as you mentioned, the biggest issue right now is the world-wide IC / component stock shortages. Making it extremely hard to source the "reversed" Hirose MicroSD and SD connector slots from the MX4SIO BOM list. All the distributors (Mouser, Farnell, Digi-Key, etc) are out of stock. No joke there's currently an eBayer selling the "reversed" MicroSD slot (Hirose - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS) for £15 / $20 - per unit! I ended up sourcing some of the Hirose - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS from a Japanese distributer directly (at the correct price), only they had some stock left (probably because Hirose is also a Japanese company).
I feel at this point in time, it's not (well almost not) possible / feasible to build one until the components are back in stock again. I guess this gives you some time to check out local (to you) 3D printing firms, and PCB fabs that can meet your minimum requirement specs. The Devs of M4XSIO here, asked us to try and go locally for the 3D printing and PCB Fabs, and not to go with Chinese firms. However, if a person only wants 1 x unit of PCB and 1 x unit of 3D printed case, it's not gonna be cheap.
Any good news? Well... because of everything mentioned above, i was not able to only buy 1 x unit of each part needed for the build. In the end i had to buy more than i needed, so i have a few spare ones, just not the LED version.
So i was thinking of giving away, for free, my brand-new spare MX4SIO units to you guys! All assembled and ready to go! I have 5 complete spare units for grabs. To make it fair, maybe we could put some names in a hat and do a draw? Like a free raffle / lottery for those who want one. Then annouce the results here and PM the 5 winners so i can send them their MX4SIO. For transparency, i would aim to record the "pulling names from hat" and post the video here with the winning results.
Assembled:- (MX4SIO PCB + MX4SIO 3D printed case + 47 Ohm resistor + Hirose "reversed" MicroSD connector slot - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS)
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In theory, i would aim to post the Announcement for the free Raffle / Draw here in this thread, and give it say 10 days from then to collect enough names / participants before actually pulling those names from a hat. I have 5 spare MX4SIO to give away for free! Watch this space!
Very exciting! Following this thread for entry details!
Versatile
Member
MX4SIO PCB thickness, coming from the PDF manual is 1.55mm (1.6mm).
Its 3D printed case is designed to fit that PCB thickness only. The thinest part of the 3D case is the top-facing side, (with the transparent window effect so we can see the MX4SIO logo), is 0.3mm thick. This can be a problem for some 3D printing firms, who won't print at that minimum thickness (0.3mm). So if for example you want that section thicker, say 0.7mm, then the PCB would need to be changed / reduced from 1.6mm to 1.2mm thickness, else the PCB will sit higher than the case there. Most prototype PCB fabs, like OSHPark etc, print at 1.6mm as standard. Some PCB fabs have different PCB thickness options available like:- 1mm, 1.2mm, 1.6mm, 2mm etc.
BOM / Components, as you mentioned, the biggest issue right now is the world-wide IC / component stock shortages. Making it extremely hard to source the "reversed" Hirose MicroSD and SD connector slots from the MX4SIO BOM list. All the distributors (Mouser, Farnell, Digi-Key, etc) are out of stock. No joke there's currently an eBayer selling the "reversed" MicroSD slot (Hirose - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS) for £15 / $20 - per unit! I ended up sourcing some of the Hirose - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS from a Japanese distributer directly (at the correct price), only they had some stock left (probably because Hirose is also a Japanese company).
I feel at this point in time, it's not (well almost not) possible / feasible to build one until the components are back in stock again. I guess this gives you some time to check out local (to you) 3D printing firms, and PCB fabs that can meet your minimum requirement specs. The Devs of M4XSIO here, asked us to try and go locally for the 3D printing and PCB Fabs, and not to go with Chinese firms. However, if a person only wants 1 x unit of PCB and 1 x unit of 3D printed case, it's not gonna be cheap.
Any good news? Well... because of everything mentioned above, i was not able to only buy 1 x unit of each part needed for the build. In the end i had to buy more than i needed, so i have a few spare ones, just not the LED version.
So i was thinking of giving away, for free, my brand-new spare MX4SIO units to you guys! All assembled and ready to go! I have 5 complete spare units for grabs. To make it fair, maybe we could put some names in a hat and do a draw? Like a free raffle / lottery for those who want one. Then annouce the results here and PM the 5 winners so i can send them their MX4SIO. For transparency, i would aim to record the "pulling names from hat" and post the video here with the winning results.
Assembled:- (MX4SIO PCB + MX4SIO 3D printed case + 47 Ohm resistor + Hirose "reversed" MicroSD connector slot - DM3BT-DSF-PEJS)
View attachment 35994 View attachment 35996
In theory, i would aim to post the Announcement for the free Raffle / Draw here in this thread, and give it say 10 days from then to collect enough names / participants before actually pulling those names from a hat. I have 5 spare MX4SIO to give away for free! Watch this space!
I had ordered a small pcb batch at 1.2mm thickness. I have the default 3d case files from the MX4SIO website. If I wanted the top case to go from .3mm to .7mm, do I need to edit the file (i'm a 3d printer noob), or can the 3d printer third party be able to adjust on their end? I haven't done any 3d printing before, so yes i have time to figure this part of it out, and wait for all the other components to get in stock so I can get my hands on those too.
Note to all, I did a massive update to the MX4SIO compatibility list. If there is no value in submitting the form and you want editing rights because you know you will add games over time, then make sure to send a request when logged into google I guess. I didn't want to make it open to the entire internet as I fear there are some bad actors out there and can really screw all of us over.
I am very sorry! I should have asked!
Obviously I don't do that on a daily or even monthly basis!
True! It was an easy edit to pack it into a spoiler though!
I agree! Please "fix" them yourself in the future @Workz_777!
It's not meant to be mean.
It just takes a burden of us and doesn't get us into "weird situations".
Workz_777
Senior Member
Ah nice! That's good you have the 1.2mm PCB thickness, then if ever you want to go from 0.3mm to 0.7mm on the 3D printed case you don't need to modify the PCB thickness. Yes, some 3D printing firms can edit the file from 0.3mm to 0.7mm for you, if not, there are free software you can use to edit the thickness, i think "Blender" (it's free open source) and also "SketchUp" they have a free version (must be the 2017 version) find it here on their download page:- https://help.sketchup.com/en/downloading-older-versions
And then you could search videos on Youtube for something like:- "how to add thickness using Blender". Personally i have not used these programs so i am only passing on theoretical information.
But to be honest, once you place the PCB into your 3D printed case, the thickness at 0.3mm (top side "window") becomes strong, because it's flat against the PCB and has "no give" / no room to move. So it's quite tough once assembled. So if your 3D printers will / can print at 0.3mm then that's good too.
Agree, yes will aim to do that from now on.
Sorry i forgot you said this, and i have some spare MicroSD connector slots, the same reversed one from the MX4SIO BOM. Hirose DM3BT-DSF-PEJS. If you want i can send you one (for free of course) via regular post, PM me if you need one.
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No worries, you have absolutely nothing to apologise for either ;-)
And as you both apologised, it occurs to me that my post might have come on stronger than I intended, it was never meant to distribute blame or make anyone feel bad, like I said I was merely trying to explain the situation from a moderation point of view.
We usually avoid editing posts whenever possible, from personal experience I would say it's a very wise policy because among other things, post editing tends inexorably to lead to those "weird (and sometimes unpleasant) situations" you mentioned.
But in cases like this, when overall readability can be improved with a quick layout edit leaving contents untouched, it does make sense to consider it, especially when the poster is a new-ish member maybe unfamiliar with supported rich text features & editing capabilities.
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Versatile
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Sure, I am in the USA, but wouldn't mind having my own personal copy finally until supply chain gets better. Will PM you for details.
Where did you get the screws for your 3d printed case? Are the two screws really necessary you think, or is the case tight enough once the pcbs is installed?
Workz_777
Senior Member
Sure i don't mind sending you a "reversed" MicroSD connector slot, it's only small. For the screws i used the ones from an old PS1 3rd party MCs. They grip in nicely to the 3D printed case. I will aim to reply to your PM later today, sorry i have to rush off for now.
Edit: Are the screws necessary? well i feel it's o.k without screws (if none are available), but with the screws it keeps that side sealed tighter.
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AngryHelder
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Hi everyone. I am having some issue with the OPL 1629 build on my Fat SCPH 30001 R . I just get a BSOD and have tried many times even the OPL 1627 version and always BSOD.
Now if I use the latest Beta from the github page it loads and works fine with my own PCB I designed but the issue with this version is there is no way to save any game with real card or VMC and in fact the github Issue #586 linked below is exactly what I am experiencing with the latest build.
https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/issues/586
So does anyone know why the OPL 1629 will not work on my console? if not does anyone know if or when they will fix the saving issue in the latest Beta which is not present in the 1629 version? Thank you
I have included some pictures of the pcb and shell I designed, I am planning to sell these in a few weeks once I get more sockets in at my website.
This is marked with a Fiber Laser
Now if I use the latest Beta from the github page it loads and works fine with my own PCB I designed but the issue with this version is there is no way to save any game with real card or VMC and in fact the github Issue #586 linked below is exactly what I am experiencing with the latest build.
https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/issues/586
So does anyone know why the OPL 1629 will not work on my console? if not does anyone know if or when they will fix the saving issue in the latest Beta which is not present in the 1629 version? Thank you
I have included some pictures of the pcb and shell I designed, I am planning to sell these in a few weeks once I get more sockets in at my website.
This is marked with a Fiber Laser
Workz_777
Senior Member
I have included some pictures of the pcb and shell I designed, I am planning to sell these in a few weeks once I get more sockets in at my website.
This is marked with a Fiber Laser
Hiya, just my personal thoughts...
...considering you've designed your own PCB version, i don't think it can be called "MX4SIO", because this isn't the original made by the Devs. "MX4SIO", created by the Devs here, is copyrighted. We only have permission to make personal "MX4SIO" units and not for business purposes.
Maybe you could call your version:- "MC2SIO" (for example) and explain in your website sales advert - it's your own re-designed version of "MX4SIO", for best transparency? However, i'm just a fan of MX4SIO and have no say, it's just my "5 cents".
Maybe you could call your version:- "MC2SIO" (for example) and explain in your website sales advert - it's your own re-designed version of "MX4SIO", for best transparency? However, i'm just a fan of MX4SIO and have no say, it's just my "5 cents".
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AngryHelder
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Hiya, just my thoughts... considering you re-designed your own PCB version, i don't think it can be called "MX4SIO" anymore, because this isn't the original made by the Devs. "MX4SIO", created by the Devs here, is copyrighted. We only have permission to make personal "MX4SIO" units and not for business purposes.
Also, what if your "MX4SIO" version doesn't work, and you sell it, that could give the brand "MX4SIO" a bad name / reputation? What are those extra components on your PCB? Resistors and capacitors, and no LEDS? If you are going with no LEDs populated on the PCB, then you only need 1 x resistor, the 47 ohm one, no?
You're new here, but you've basically rocked up to Coca-Cola H.Q and showed the CEOs there your boot-leg Coca-Cola version, and asked them to help you sell them, for yourself.
Maybe you could call your version:- "MC2SIO" (for example) and explain in your advert - it's your own re-designed version of "MX4SIO", for best transparency? However, i'm just a fan of MX4SIO and have no say, it's just my "5 cents".
EDIT: Also isn't that "PS2" font / logo copy-righted by Sony? If so, printing that "PS2" logo together with the MX4SIO brand, and selling it publically could get the real MX4SIO people in trouble. And even if you change MX4SIO to "MC2SIO" but still print that "PS2" Sony copyrighted logo next to it, then what's stopping you getting in legal trouble? Why take the risks?
I used the MX4SIO name because I assumed this is what this project was called, I can name it something else which is not a big deal. The PS2 logo I can change too but doubtful Sony will come after me for a handful of 3D printed shells. As for the PCB it has the LED and resistor required to run as well, the capacitor is a decoupling capacitor which is common practice to use and it does work as I stated above in the first post I made. I will take your advice though so as not to step on anyone's toes.
So back to my previous post which is why I posted here, the issue with getting the OPL 1629 not working for me or the latest version not being able to save games. Is there any solution I can try to get this working
Workz_777
Senior Member
Does your version have an LED for detecting the MicroSD, and an LED for data transmission? Or just one of those? Yeah probably Sony won't come after you for a few printed cases, i just thought to put it out there considering this project was originally called "SD2SIO" but was later changed to "MX4SIO" because "SD" is copyright.
I think by default the BDM(1) OPL Beta 1627 is the correct version for your PS2, and not the BDM3 1629 version which is for Deckard PS2s, yours is an IOP (SCPH 30001). Not sure about the BSOD you are experiencing. Did you configure the BDM(1) Beta launch path correctly in FMCB Configurator > "configure OSDSYS options..." ? I put the OPL.elf in the FMCB "BOOT" folder (not the "APPS" folder) and point to that path in configure OSDSYS options. (using FMCB 1.964).
Have you tried having the official OPL v1.1.0 and the BDM(1) Beta OPL on the same MC, at the same time? They can share the same config folder (mc0 / OPL) so the settings can be the same if you want, that's how i have it at the moment for testing purposes. Maybe this could help your BSOD when launching BDM(1).
Nope. Because there is a device with that name on the Atari!
I'm not sure about the name! Only @Takeshi can answer this question!
Workz_777
Senior Member
Nope. Because there is a device with that name on the Atari!
I'm not sure about the name! Only @Takeshi can answer this question!
Ah o.k, yes i'm looking at that Atari SIO2SD now...
...sorry i got confused when you guys where talking about SD logos on page 6.
Does anyone know if these are the minimum components needed to work, or do I need to install a capacitor?
Tested on a 50001 and 77001 but was unsuccessful.
I'm having the exact same problem now as @Thiago Barrios, with only the (minimum requirements) 47 ohm resistor and the "inversed" microSD connector installed on the board. It makes my PS2 turn off when it's connected to a MicroSD card.Up until now i hadn't tried my MX4SIO PCB yet, and was just working off my DIY version, but now i tried the PCB version - i was not successful. Do i need to add the capacitor? What worked for you in the end @Thiago Barrios?
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problem fixed, 2+ pins on the MicroSD socket connector were touching from the soldering and shorting. It looked fine at first by eye, but with a multimeter and magnifying glass the problem was found.
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Versatile
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I'm waiting for my own pcb, but I would think socket and 47 ohm resistor is enough? That is what I do for my own ps1 memory cards I cut off.
My other advise is make sure no bridges on the microsd card slot to any adjacent pins.
On one of my earlier builds, I had two pins shorted which turned off my system.
My other advise is make sure no bridges on the microsd card slot to any adjacent pins.
On one of my earlier builds, I had two pins shorted which turned off my system.
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