PS2 Problem when playing PS1 games on the PS2 on a HDTV with component or PS2 to HDMI Converter

[Windows10User]

Different.

MX4SIO support is only in OPL (since v1.1.0 [?]).
i.Link support is only in OPL (since v1.0.0) and PS2ESDL.

And what about running POPStarter from OPL in MX4SIO and i.LINK?

 

[Berion]

POPS and POPStarter doesn't support MX4SIO and i.Link. It doesn't matter what application will launch it, it will not get magically code for not supported devices.

Different. ;}

 

[Windows10User]

POPS and POPStarter doesn't support MX4SIO and i.Link. It doesn't matter what application will launch it, it will not get magically code for not supported devices.

Different. ;}

And does POPS only support a single game?

Is PS2ESDL better than OPL?

 

[Peppe90]

I have a black screen with a menu but when I use the controller the choose a setting, nothing happens.

Are you using an original SONY pad?

And does POPS only support a single game?

Is PS2ESDL better than OPL?

POPS perfectly supports much more than a single game. Not 100% though (not even close).

PS2ESDL is USB only (also i-link if you have a 3900X or previous), isn't better than OPL. However, being different programs, compatibility can be slightly different, so if a game can't start on OPL through USB, I usually test it on PS2ESDL and it happened sometimes it worked on it.
That said PS2ESDL is a dead project while OPL is still wip, I'm pretty sure nowadays OPL has the same compatibility percentage as PS2ESDL from USB if not better.

 

[Peppe90]

You can try the updated version:
https://github.com/wisi-w/DKWDRV/releases/tag/1.7.2
I don't know if it has the loading from MC fixed as that is a semi-wLE bug and might need to be fixed in wLE (too).
I don't know if loading from USB will be slower but shouldn't be much slower. I think MC read transfer rate is lower than that from USB Flash but I could be wrong.
DualShock 2 should work. I have no idea why it doesn't.
If it still doesn't work, please tell me your PS2 model (SCPH-...).

I done some testing with the 75004.
I tried to boot the program from pendrive and couldn't start it (tried 3/4 times), same from mc1:\APPS, always BSOD.
Then I tried starting the program with the lid open (no disc inside) and it always started (tried 2 times in a row so far). I don't know if it's a coincidence or I'm supposed to have the lid open when starting the program? Or maybe I must have a disc spinning inside if the lid's closed?

 

[Windows10User]

I done some testing with the 75004.
I tried to boot the program from pendrive and couldn't start it (tried 3/4 times), same from mc1:\APPS, always BSOD.
Then I tried starting the program with the lid open (no disc inside) and it always started (tried 2 times in a row so far). I don't know if it's a coincidence or I'm supposed to have the lid open when starting the program? Or maybe I must have a disc spinning inside if the lid's closed?

Yes, I am.

Is POPS better than POPStarter and the others?

I done some testing with the 75004.
I tried to boot the program from pendrive and couldn't start it (tried 3/4 times), same from mc1:\APPS, always BSOD.
Then I tried starting the program with the lid open (no disc inside) and it always started (tried 2 times in a row so far). I don't know if it's a coincidence or I'm supposed to have the lid open when starting the program? Or maybe I must have a disc spinning inside if the lid's closed?

I suppose one must have the lid closed with the disc he/she wants to play inside or how will he/she make it work?

So, what you call a BSOD is actually a black screen with settings or in your case those didn't even show up and you have a completely black screen with nothing on it?

 

[Peppe90]

Yes, I am.

Is POPS better than POPStarter and the others?

POPS is the emulator, POPStarter is a custom elf you need for booting (and customizing) it.

I suppose one must have the lid closed with the disc he/she wants to play inside or how will he/she make it work?

So, what you call a BSOD is actually a black screen with settings or in your case those didn't even show up and you have a completely black screen with nothing on it?

If it is so it should be specified in the readme. Other programs (like PS1VMNeg, PSXPLAUNCHER, etc...) can boot in any case (lid opened/closed disc inside or not). You can insert the disc before or after the program is started.

With BSOD I mean a completely black screen.

 

[Windows10User]

POPS is the emulator, POPStarter is a custom elf you need for booting (and customizing) it.

If it is so it should be specified in the readme. Other programs (like PS1VMNeg, PSXPLAUNCHER, etc...) can boot in any case (lid opened/closed disc inside or not). You can insert the disc before or after the program is started.

With BSOD I mean a completely black screen.

Is POPStarter better than PS1VMNeg and PSXPLAUNCHER? How many PS1 game loaders are there?

Is there a difference between running POPStarter from wLE or from OPL?

Then I didn't have it since it showed the program's settings.

 

[Peppe90]

Is POPStarter better than PS1VMNeg and PSXPLAUNCHER? How many PS1 game loaders are there?

PSXLAUNCHER is a "swap trick launcher", you can compare it to swap magic. It is obsolete since it only works from 5000X onward (so you have a better option that's MechaPWN).

Is there a difference between running POPStarter from wLE or from OPL?

There shouldn't be (I never experienced any)

Then I didn't have it since it showed the program's settings.

So you simply lose the pad input. It never happened to me. If you didn't, try with the lid opened.

 

[Windows10User]

PSXLAUNCHER is a "swap trick launcher", you can compare it to swap magic. It is obsolete since it only works from 5000X onward (so you have a better option that's MechaPWN).



There shouldn't be (I never experienced any)



So you simply lose the pad input. It never happened to me. If you didn't, try with the lid opened.

I thought MechaPWN was to play discs from other regions, not to play backups, which we are talking about.

 

[Peppe90]

Functions slightly vary depending on the Ps2 model (if pre or post 7500X). Summing up it allows to play original discs from any region but also masterdisc patched Ps2 backups and Ps1 backups.

 

[Windows10User]

Functions slightly vary depending on the Ps2 model (if pre or post 7500X). Summing up it allows to play original discs from any region but also masterdisc patched Ps2 backups and Ps1 backups.

What's a masterdisc? Ok, but I want to avoid burned games since they wear the laser faster than legit ones (which also wear it), I think.

When I run POPStarter from wLE, it says no disc and doesn't run it.

 

[Peppe90]

What's a masterdisc? Ok, but I want to avoid burned games since they wear the laser faster than legit ones (which also wear it), I think.

It's a format that allows backups to work on Ps2 dek-kit

When I run POPStarter from wLE, it says no disc and doesn't run it.

You done something wrong. Post some photos of your setting.

 

[Windows10User]

It's a format that allows backups to work on Ps2 dek-kit



You done something wrong. Post some photos of your setting.

So, it isn't actually a disc?

What setting? Anyway, it works if I run it from OPL.

So you simply lose the pad input. It never happened to me. If you didn't, try with the lid opened.

I tried it and I still had the same issue.

 

[Peppe90]

So, it isn't actually a disc?

You can patch any Ps2 game as masterdisc. It was used by developers for testing game prototypes on dev-kit (and MechaPWN can patch retail consoles to dev-kit).

What setting? Anyway, it works if I run it from OPL.

I guess you're using OPL fork from Ps2-Home. That's able to directly boot VCDs (Also Wle kHn can).

 

[Windows10User]

You can patch any Ps2 game as masterdisc. It was used by developers for testing game prototypes on dev-kit (and MechaPWN can patch retail consoles to dev-kit).



I guess you're using OPL fork from Ps2-Home. That's able to directly boot VCDs (Also Wle kHn can).

I am. Is there a difference between PS2-HOME's OPL and GitHub's? I think they're difference versions because GitHub's latest version is a stable one whereas my PS2-HOME's version is more recent since it's a Beta one (I guess PS2-HOME also mentioned GitHub's version).

Isn't VCD related to PS1 games? What does it have to do with POPStarter itself?

Ok, but what about POPStarter not working after running it from wLE? Speaking of which, is wLE's latest version from 19-03-2020 (PS2-HOME's) or from 2 days ago (GitHub's)?

 

[Berion]

I am. Is there a difference between PS2-HOME's OPL and GitHub's? I think they're difference versions because GitHub's latest version is a stable one whereas my PS2-HOME's version is more recent since it's a Beta one (I guess PS2-HOME also mentioned GitHub's version).

OPL DB is OPL fork, buggy and strongly not recommended to use.
You can get latest beta build of OPL from OPL's github.

Isn't VCD related to PS1 games? What does it have to do with POPStarter itself?

It is the only supported disc image format by POPS/POPStater.

 

[Windows10User]

OPL DB is OPL fork, buggy and strongly not recommended to use.
You can get latest beta build of OPL from OPL's github.


It is the only supported disc image format by POPS/POPStater.

So, it isn't official? What about FDVDB, FMCB installer and FMCB, wLE, GSM and POPStarter downloaded from there (PS2-HOME)?

What can we call any video interface that makes the screen black when playing PS1 games on a HDTV (like component cables [regardless if they are connected to other devices or used alone], HDMI devices, etc.), upscallers?

 

[Berion]

It is not. Official is OPL from official OPL repository on github: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/releases

I don't know, I'm not an member of this forum.

Application or device which taking input signal and upscalling it on output is upscaller. So i.e if native displayed resolution is 320x240 and app or device transform it to i.e 1920x1080, it is upscaller. TV doing it for all none native for its matrix resolutions. But we not depending on TV because he doing it in horrible way. The best results You can get via devices, quite expensive but You are not dependant of console side software and have more control over signal.

 

[Windows10User]

It is not. Official is OPL from official OPL repository on github: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/releases

I don't know, I'm not an member of this forum.

Application or device which taking input signal and upscalling it on output is upscaller. So i.e if native displayed resolution is 320x240 and app or device transform it to i.e 1920x1080, it is upscaller. TV doing it for all none native for its matrix resolutions. But we not depending on TV because he doing it in horrible way. The best results You can get via devices, quite expensive but You are not dependant of console side software and have more control over signal.

Is GitHub's Beta OPL updated more frequently than PS2-HOME's and does it also have two versions (ifcaro and Daily Build in PS2-HOME's case) like PS2-HOME's? Is GitHub's Beta OPL less buggy than PS2-HOME's? I'm asking this because it's also a Beta version.

So, are component cables that work without being connected to any device (like portta) or the PS2 to HDMI Converter which uses an HDMI cable and an adapter considered upscallers?