PS3 PS3 freezes as soon as I click "Enable FTP" in Evilnat 4.89.3 with an external HDD attached

[a.senna]

I think you will only lose the psn bought on the store because they need to be activated.
You will lose all if the ps3 ask to format it. but wait for other opinion, I did that long ago

 

[Random Guy]

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[aldostools]

***Oh God! We have a serious communication issue in this thread or we're being trolled.

 

[Random Guy]

***Oh God! We have a serious communication issue in this thread or we're being trolled.

Why do you state that?

 

[aldostools]

Why do you state that?

Evilnat, a.senna and I have been suggesting you to stop using Enable FTP.

I've suggested to use webMAN MOD + IRISMAN for FTP, and your answer is something different.

We're not communicating properly... or we're being fooled => 7 pages about the same issue

 

[GuilloteTesla]

Why do you state that?

Because you asked the same thing over and over, people here explained you everything in every way possible, and you still ask the same questions.

For example, here a.senna tells you that you MUST use CFW 4.89.3 update PUP if you change your internal HDD. Yet you reply nonsense stuff that isn't related to the tip of changing your internal HDD to discard possible hardware issues. Here is the screenshot and post.

- You complain about FTP server conflicts?. Start from scratch: clean CFW install, no webMAN MOD, no IRISMAN, no nothing.
- You complain about FTP transfer speeds?. After FW 4.21, Sony capped the transfer speed A LOT (but you still affirm ithat s something related to the FTP servers or clients).
- You complain about external HDD without testing another unit?. You may have hardware issues that can only be detected by discarding potential problems.
- You complain about the CFW freezing your console?. Try reinstalling the CFW, or even better, downgrade to CFW 4.84 and check if things freeze over or not. If they do, the problems are on your side. Console hangs and freezes with file operations are mostly related to HDD failures. Replacing your HDD with a SSD will add more troubles because not every SSD is compatible with the PS3. That's why you were suggested (many times) to try another internal HDD.
- You complain about not wanting to lose your CFW exploit?. It was told here (many times) that you won't lose it if you use the CFW 4.89.3 PUP.

And a piece of advice: if you don't understand what you are reading, because english is not your first language, translate everything. It's not perfect but it will give you a nice approach to understand stuff here.

 

[Random Guy]

Evilnat, a.senna and I have been suggesting you to stop using Enable FTP.

I've suggested to use webMAN MOD + IRISMAN for FTP, and your answer is something different.

We're not communicating properly... or we're being fooled => 7 pages about the same issue

Like I've stated, I stopped using Cobra's FTP already. If using IRISMAN, the PS3 also freezes and its FTP transfer speed is slow. I'm not even running webMAN MOD and its FTP transfer speed is even lower than Cobra's. I don't want to use openps3 because it's very slow even though it doesn't freeze the PS3.

Maybe you aren't paying attention to what I state.

Because you asked the same thing over and over, people here explained you everything in every way possible, and you still ask the same questions.

For example, here a.senna tells you that you MUST use CFW 4.89.3 update PUP if you change your internal HDD. Yet you reply nonsense stuff that isn't related to the tip of changing your internal HDD to discard possible hardware issues. Here is the screenshot and post.

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- You complain about FTP server conflicts?. Start from scratch: clean CFW install, no webMAN MOD, no IRISMAN, no nothing.
- You complain about FTP transfer speeds?. After FW 4.21, Sony capped the transfer speed A LOT (but you still affirm ithat s something related to the FTP servers or clients).
- You complain about external HDD without testing another unit?. You may have hardware issues that can only be detected by discarding potential problems.
- You complain about the CFW freezing your console?. Try reinstalling the CFW, or even better, downgrade to CFW 4.84 and check if things freeze over or not. If they do, the problems are on your side. Console hangs and freezes with file operations are mostly related to HDD failures. Replacing your HDD with a SSD will add more troubles because not every SSD is compatible with the PS3. That's why you were suggested (many times) to try another internal HDD.
- You complain about not wanting to lose your CFW exploit?. It was told here (many times) that you won't lose it if you use the CFW 4.89.3 PUP.

And a piece of advice: if you don't understand what you are reading, because english is not your first language, translate everything. It's not perfect but it will give you a nice approach to understand stuff here.

I didn't complain about FTP server conflicts, it was a.senna who asked me about it. I already did many clean CFW installs, didn't install webMAN MOD and IRISMAN and I still have the freezing issue after clicking "Enable FTP" and its FTP transfer speed is slow and openps3ftp's FTP transfer speed is also slow.

I know it capped but why is that only being said to me now? Is it so obvious every user should know about it? Of course it is, since the speed varies between Cobra's FTP server's, openps3ftp's, multiMAN's, IRISMAN's, ManaGunZ's and webMAN MOD's and according to what I read on Reddit, there are a lot of users having a faster FTP transfer that I do with the same PS3 model, stock HDD, internet connection and installed CFW and FTP clients and servers.

Like I also stated, I tested other USB devices and reinstalled CFW many times and I still have these issues.

I didn't test another HDD because I thought I didn't have another one and I wasn't told many times to try another HDD unlike what you state. Why downgrading to 4.84, specifically? I thought any 2.5" SATA SSD was compatible with the PS3 unless it had more than 1.5 TB.

I guess there are other users not paying attention to what I state and that don't understand english.

 

[GuilloteTesla]

It is related for me since I don't want to lose data when changing discs and reinstalling CFW.

You won't lose any data as long as you don't format your current HDD.

I already did many clean CFW installs and didn't install webMAN MOD and IRISMAN and I still have the freezing issue after clicking Enable FTP.

Guess what, you have hardware issues, what all the people here was telling you to check in the first place.

Also, like I stated many times, I wasn't having this slow FTP transfer issue until some days ago, so it isn't caused by a Sony cap because I've been using Evilnat 4.89.3 since the day it was released and I was having faster speeds with it installed.

How do you know your "high" transfer speeds weren't because of a network burst?. Did you run several tests to conclude the "high" rates were normal or not?

Do you think the less than 1 MiB/s FTP transfer speed was caused by a Sony cap, then?

It depends:
- on the number of files to transfer (many tiny files have very low transfer speeds than few large files).
- the destination medium (it's not the same to FTP transfer to the HDD than to an external HDD connected to the PS3's USB port).
- the connection type (ethernet or wireless).
- the network devices involved (if you have a router, an AP, a direct link).

And it is a fact: Sony did capped the transfer speeds. So yes, it could be a possibility to have degraded speeds.

Like I also stated, I tested other USB devices and reinstalled CFW many times and I still have these issues.

Again, you have hardware issues (yet you didn't test another internal HDD).

I didn't test another HDD because I thought I didn't another one and that wasn't told a lot of times.

Well, if you don't try another HDD, how can you be sure that your current HDD is not faulty?. And don't say that your drive can not be faulty because you bought it in 2021, that means nothing as failures can occur any time, be it at the factory, on first use, a couple of weeks/months/years or never.

Why downgrading to 4.84, specifically?

Because it's one of the most stable CFW out there.

I thought any 2.5" SATA SSD was compatible with the PS3 unless it had more than 1 TB

No, not many SSDs work well with the PS3. The 1TB limit is another thing not related to the tecnology behind the drive unit.

and I wasn't suggested many times to try another HDD.

Yes, you were. Maybe if you don't double post and read everything before answering, you wouldn't have missed it.

I guess there are other users not paying attention to what I type.

7 freaking pages of posts for a simple question with simple answers given for. Oh yes, we've read it all.

 

[Random Guy]

You won't lose any data as long as you don't format your current HDD.



Guess what, you have hardware issues, what all the people here was telling you to check in the first place.



How do you know your "high" transfer speeds weren't because of a network burst?. Did you run several tests to conclude the "high" rates were normal or not?



It depends:
- on the number of files to transfer (many tiny files have very low transfer speeds than few large files).
- the destination medium (it's not the same to FTP transfer to the HDD than to an external HDD connected to the PS3's USB port).
- the connection type (ethernet or wireless).
- the network devices involved (if you have a router, an AP, a direct link).

And it is a fact: Sony did capped the transfer speeds. So yes, it could be a possibility to have degraded speeds.



Again, you have hardware issues (yet you didn't test another internal HDD).



Well, if you don't try another HDD, how can you be sure that your current HDD is not faulty?. And don't say that your drive can not be faulty because you bought it in 2021, that means nothing as failures can occur any time, be it at the factory, on first use, a couple of weeks/months/years or never.



Because it's one of the most stable CFW out there.



No, not many SSDs work well with the PS3. The 1TB limit is another thing not related to the tecnology behind the drive unit.



Yes, you were. Maybe if you don't double post and read everything before answering, you wouldn't have missed it.



7 freaking pages of posts for a simple question with simple answers given for. Oh yes, we've read it all.

It's hard to understand since I only bought this HDD in August 2021. You emphatically state I have a hardware issue and then you state y'all are stating to check in the first place so do I have a hardware issue or not?

Because I was having the same speed for years in IRISMAN.

Then how can you know I have hardware issues if I didn't test another HDD?

I know Sony capped the transfer speed but I've had the same FTP speed since I hacked the PS3 and installed Rebug 4.84.2.

And how can you be sure the HDD is faulty if I didn't swap it? I thought if it was, the PS3 would freeze a lot more times.

Which SSD models don't work with it? Do you advise me to buy another 1 TB HDD, and if so, which one?

No, I wasn't suggested many times. You really aren't paying attention.

No, you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't state that. I already answered all of your questions.

 

[GuilloteTesla]

But I'll lose the installed PSN games and apps even if I don't have this issue with the old HDD.

No, you won't as long as you don't format your HDD. And if you do, you can always re download your purchased PSN games and apps. As always, do a full backup of the important stuff. There are plenty of tutorials here on the forums.

That's what I think, but it's hard to understand since I only bought this HDD in August 2021.

Again, it doesn't matter when you bought it. If it happen to have been hit, nobody would've known and you got a faulty drive.

Because I still have this problem since yesterday and I only have it when transferring files to the PS3.

Then are you sure that the issues are on the PS3 and not on the other end?. Again, have you tested your network?, the devices involved?, the type of connection?. A bad cable or interference is enough to degrade the transfer speed.

Then how can you know I have hardware issues if I didn't test another HDD?

You can't. That's why you were told to try another internal HDD, to discard possible factors.

I know Sony capped the transfer speed but it's not normal to have less than 1 Mi/B/s when transferring a single file.

Again, it depends on the size of the file, connection, FTP client, components, devices, etc.

And how can you be sure the HDD is faulty if I didn't swap it? I thought if the HDD was faulty, the PS3 wouldn't even turn on or would freeze a lot more times.

You can not know for sure, that's why you must try another one, to verify or deny it. And no, a faulty HDD can fail in random scenarios: it could fail at startup, it could fail on XMB, it could fail while playing music, it could fail while playing the last stage in a game.

Which SSD models don't work with it? Do you advise me to buy another 1 TB HDD, and if so, which one?

I don't know. People reported no issues with SLC SSDs, but MLC could also work. The PS3 wasn't designed with SSDs in mind.

No, I wasn't suggested many times. You're not paying attention.

Yes, you were. Try using the search tool, it took me 5 min to compile this:
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No, you didn't, and if the answer is so simple, then why was a new xai_plugin version released which apparently fixed a freezing issue other users were having?

No I didn't, but other members here did... multiple times. And the answer IS simple: try different scenarios and discard them if the problem doesn't happen.

You found a bug and Evilnat fixed it. But after that, you still have the same freezing issues. So, in the end, who has the problem?. Don't expect different results if you do the same thing again and again.

 

[Random Guy]

No, you won't as long as you don't format your HDD. And if you do, you can always re download your purchased PSN games and apps. As always, do a full backup of the important stuff. There are plenty of tutorials here on the forums.



Again, it doesn't matter when you bought it. If it happen to have been hit, nobody would've known and you got a faulty drive.



Then are you sure that the issues are on the PS3 and not on the other end?. Again, have you tested your network?, the devices involved?, the type of connection?. A bad cable or interference is enough to degrade the transfer speed.



You can't. That's why you were told to try another internal HDD, to discard possible factors.



Again, it depends on the size of the file, connection, FTP client, components, devices, etc.



You can not know for sure, that's why you must try another one, to verify or deny it. And no, a faulty HDD can fail in random scenarios: it could fail at startup, it could fail on XMB, it could fail while playing music, it could fail while playing the last stage in a game.



I don't know. People reported no issues with SLC SSDs, but MLC could also work. The PS3 wasn't designed with SSDs in mind.



Yes, you were. Try using the search tool, it took me 5 min to compile this:
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No I didn't, but other members here did... multiple times. And the answer IS simple: try different scenarios and discard them if the problem doesn't happen.

You found a bug and Evilnat fixed it. But after that, you still have the same freezing issues. So, in the end, who has the problem?. Don't expect different results if you do the same thing again and again.

Yes, I did. I tested via Wi-Fi (used different networks), by cable (used different ones) and used FileZilla and WinSCP and even different PCs.

If nobody would've known if it happened got hit, then why do you supposedly know it's faulty?

Again, if I can't know if it's the HDD's fault, then why did you emphatically state it was?

Again, then why did you emphatically state it was the HDD's fault?

Then why did you state replacing my HDD with a SSD would add more troubles if some SSDs don't have problems with the PS3, like you're stating now?

The first and third posts don't have to do with what you stated and I don't consider 5 times to be multiple ones.

Then why did you state you did? No, they didn't answer multiple times. I already tried different scenarios.

They're different ones, which in fact proves you didn't read all that I stated unlike what you stated earlier. If it was fixed, then why does the PS3 still freeze after clicking "Enable FTP"? If the issue was fixed then why do I still have it (decide yoursel!), and like you stated, they're "issues" not a single issue, and since when was the PS3 freezing after transferring a file using FileZilla and IRISMAN and returning to XMB from the latter issue fixed when it isn't even related to Cobra's FTP because if happens with it turned off? It's me, of course, otherwise why would I create this thread in the first place? But I did different things and I still have the same results.

 

[a.senna]

Random Guy

What size is your old HDD?

Do you know the version of the firmware when you took it out?

Why do you want the games if you cannot go online or its not advisable?

 

[Random Guy]

Random Guy

What size is your old HDD?

Do you know the version of the firmware when you took it out?

Why do you want the games if you cannot go online or its not advisable?

250 GB, it came with the PS3. My previous PS3 also had the webMAN MOD freezing issue.

Evilnat 4.88.2.

Who said I wanted the games to play online?

 

[GuilloteTesla]

How can I not lose all the PSN games and apps if they're stored in the previous HDD? But that's what I want to avoid (having to redownload and install them all).

Again, you can redownload everything from your PSN account.

Yes, I did. I tested by wi-fi (used different networks), by cable (used different ones), used FileZilla and WinSCP and used different PCs.

Connected directly to the PS3 or with a router in the middle?. Those things are crucial.

Then don't emphatically state it's caused by a hardware issue.

If you don't understand an answer, ask for further development of it, more details or an explanation. They suspected it could be a hardware issue, because of the experience they have with this stuff. They asked you to try another HDD in order to confirm or deny if it is indeed an issue with Cobra FTP or not.

Again, it's not normal since I wasn't having this issue 2 days ago in the same conditions.

How can you be so sure that it's a CFW issue?. That's why I told you to downgrade your FW and check if your speeds are the same or not.

Then why did you state the PS3 has problems with SSDs?

You don't read, I've already told you: People reported no issues with SLC SSDs, but MLC could also work. The PS3 wasn't designed with SSDs in mind.

If you've used the search tool, you may find out that many, many people had issues with new SSDs.

Here, two post for you TO READ:
- https://www.psx-place.com/threads/my-ps3-is-very-slow-on-ssd.38753/
- https://www.psx-place.com/threads/best-ps3-hard-drive-to-upgrade-now-in-2020.28908/

The first and third posts don't have to do with what you stated and I don't consider 5 multiple times, but over 10, I do.

You reply this, really?. I'm done with this, I won't answer to you anymore.

Good luck, hope you've enjoyed wasting people's time and willingness to help you.

 

[a.senna]

250 GB, it came with the PS3. My previous PS3 also had the webMAN MOD freezing the PS3 issue.

4.88 OFW.

I don't play online.

In that case you dont have nothing to lose, Only games that can be downloaded...

When and if you install the 250gb let me know.

 

[Random Guy]

Again, you can redownload everything from your PSN account.



Connected directly to the PS3 or with a router in the middle?. Those things are crucial.



If you don't understand an answer, ask for further development of it, more details or an explanation. They suspected it could be a hardware issue, because of the experience they have with this stuff. They asked you to try another HDD in order to confirm or deny if it is indeed an issue with Cobra FTP or not.



How can you be so sure that it's a CFW issue?. That's why I told you to downgrade your FW and check if your speeds are the same or not.



You don't read, I've already told you: People reported no issues with SLC SSDs, but MLC could also work. The PS3 wasn't designed with SSDs in mind.

If you've used the search tool, you may find out that many, many people had issues with new SSDs.

Here, two post for you TO READ:
- https://www.psx-place.com/threads/my-ps3-is-very-slow-on-ssd.38753/
- https://www.psx-place.com/threads/best-ps3-hard-drive-to-upgrade-now-in-2020.28908/



You reply this, really?. I'm done with this, I won't answer to you anymore.

Good luck, hope you've enjoyed wasting people's time and willingness to help you.

Connected directly to the PS3 and with a router in the middle (in the latter case, the PC is connected to the router and the PS3 to a gigabit switch).

It looks like you don't even understand what you state, not to mention what I do. But you emphatically stated it was the HDD's fault before I even swapped it.

You didn't even read what you state because you stated they WOULD have issues with SSDs and afterwards stated they MAY HAVE issues with them. Also, you state many people have problems with SSDs and then you only show me two post? And why should I search it when I didn't even know the PS3 supposedly had problems with SSDs before you talked about it and why should I search after you already emphatically stated the PS3 had problems with them?

Yes, and what about your replies (including that one)? That's because you have no arguments.

I didn't, unlike you.

In that case you dont have nothing to lose, Only games that can be downloaded...

When and if you install the 250gb let me know.

Have you have any issue with your SSD, what's its capacity and is it SLC or MLC?

 

[a.senna]

240/250gb samsung I dont remember
I dont remember the specs or model I didnt installed it yet. The ps3 doesnt need great specs.

 

[Random Guy]

240/250gb samsung I dont remember
I dont remember the specs or model I didnt installed it yet. The ps3 doesnt need great specs.

And have you had any issues with it?

 

[Random Guy]

The old version freezes randomly not always, the new version seems to be working now

Please use IrisMAN and forget about xai, check if works without freezing issues first

Evilnat, a.senna and I have been suggesting you to stop using Enable FTP.

I've suggested to use webMAN MOD + IRISMAN for FTP, and your answer is something different.

We're not communicating properly... or we're being fooled => 7 pages about the same issue

Again, you can redownload everything from your PSN account.



Connected directly to the PS3 or with a router in the middle?. Those things are crucial.



If you don't understand an answer, ask for further development of it, more details or an explanation. They suspected it could be a hardware issue, because of the experience they have with this stuff. They asked you to try another HDD in order to confirm or deny if it is indeed an issue with Cobra FTP or not.



How can you be so sure that it's a CFW issue?. That's why I told you to downgrade your FW and check if your speeds are the same or not.



You don't read, I've already told you: People reported no issues with SLC SSDs, but MLC could also work. The PS3 wasn't designed with SSDs in mind.

If you've used the search tool, you may find out that many, many people had issues with new SSDs.

Here, two post for you TO READ:
- https://www.psx-place.com/threads/my-ps3-is-very-slow-on-ssd.38753/
- https://www.psx-place.com/threads/best-ps3-hard-drive-to-upgrade-now-in-2020.28908/



You reply this, really?. I'm done with this, I won't answer to you anymore.

Good luck, hope you've enjoyed wasting people's time and willingness to help you.

240/250gb samsung I dont remember
I dont remember the specs or model I didnt installed it yet. The ps3 doesnt need great specs.

I just replaced the HDD, reinstalled CFW, installed the latest xai_plugin version and after clicking "Enable FTP", the PS3 still freezes. Didn't y'all state it was a HDD issue? Now what?

 

[Evilnat]

I just replaced the HDD, reinstalled CFW, installed the latest xai_plugin version and after clicking "Enable FTP", the PS3 still freezes. Didn't y'all state it was a HDD issue? Now what?

I will send you a PKG to check where is freezing the PS3 at the momento you use Enable FTP, it will use log file from xai_plugin