PS3 overheating with loudy fan noice and the solution?

Was mainly quoting the age because a lot of them have never been opened and the thermal paste S@ny puts on them is crap and as I found out with one of mine doesn't cover the the whole top of the CELL and RSX for proper thermal conductivity lol
True, S@ny always did a crap job with the thermal paste, the only console i didnt took it apart, its my PS4 Slim, because its still under warranty, and in Europe, the law of right to repair doesn´t really apply, but can´t wait to strip it to replace than poor quality thermal paste on the APU.
 
e side note mate, its better off to put a pea size thermal paste, it works better than the card method, just in my experience

It can be but if you don't use enough it doesn't cover the entire CELL and RSX so there isn't proper heat conductivity and are gaps for heat to build up.

These pics were just pulled off google. Do you not recognise the antique PS3 Phat motherboard? :D That ain't a Slim motherboard, The CELL and RSX on Slims are slightly smaller than these ones.
 
It can be but if you don't use enough it doesn't cover the entire CELL and RSX so there isn't proper heat conductivity and are gaps for heat to build up.

These pics were just pulled off google. Do you not recognise the antique PS3 Phat motherboard? :D That ain't a Slim motherboard, The CELL and RSX on Slims are slightly smaller than these ones.
Lol, i did recognise it, in fact ill go even deeper and say thats a COK-002 board, it doesn´t seem a DIA-001 or a SEM-001 to me :D
 
I wouldn't take the metal IHS plate off the CELL and RSX, you can damage them permanently if done wrong. I would just replace the paste between the the main heat sink and the CELL and RSX, that should do the job for them and remember about the small thermal pads on a couple of the smaller chips as these give off some heat as well.

Clean the RSX and CELL:

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Replace paste and your done.

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Your obsessed with these NEC tokens lol o_O :D

And yeah your right, yours is that old its an antique :eek:...:D:D lol. and you keep buying them lol :confused:o_O
I have done it, now it won't start, it turns on but no output video or HDD light then after 20 second approximately it turns off itself and the red light disappears, what does that mean? [emoji29]

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I have done it, now it won't start, it turns on but no output video or HDD light then after 20 second approximately it turns off itself and the red light disappears, what does that mean? [emoji29]

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You delided the CELL as well? If so, bad move then.

The RSX was the easier to do, you just put a thin cardboard underneath the RSX Core and with a smooth butter knife, gently push the knife upwards, till you hear a crack, don't worry its just the adhesive making resistance.

Perhaps you scratched one of the contacts from the CELL or RSX, but that would lead to a YLOD like state.

Maybe you scratched something, on the deliding process.

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You delided the CELL as well? If so, bad move then.

The RSX was the easier to do, you just put a thin cardboard underneath the RSX Core and with a smooth butter knife, gently push the knife upwards, till you hear a crack, don't worry its just the adhesive making resistance.

Perhaps you scratched one of the contacts from the CELL or RSX, but that would lead to a YLOD like state.

Maybe you scratched something, on the deliding process.

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I only put thermal paste on the chips , didn't pull them out , what do you think?

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I only put thermal paste on the chips , didn't pull them out , what do you think?

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So, you didn´t delid the CELL and RSX, great, which means you didn´t break anything.

So you are saying, it turns on, but no HDD activity and display, and turns off after 20 secs.
 
It turns on as normal PS3 , no hdd light activity, no output video then it turns off like it's unplugged with no red light. [emoji53]
 
At this point is needed to clarify what is a "delid" of the IHS
The IHS are 2 metal pieces that are either "sticked" with thermal glue (in RSX), or with a cord of silicone all around (in CELL)
Here can be seen how has been "unsticked" and flipped back
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There are different ways to do this (and i dont suggest you to use the one Naked_Snake1995 is suggesting to use, that method is risky snaaaaake)

@Khabibov please tell if you have trying this "deliding" of your PS3 IHS's

It can be but if you don't use enough it doesn't cover the entire CELL and RSX so there isn't proper heat conductivity and are gaps for heat to build up.
I actually do both of your methods :D
First i spread a veeeeery thin layer of thermal paste, with a transparent plastic (that allows me to see under the plastic), and then i drop an small pea of thermal paste in the middle

In PC i only do the cardboard (but not the pea on top) because usually in PC the metal heatsinks surface does a very well contact with the processor die (or IHS) surface

But in PS3 the heatsink is double (CELL and RSX surfaces together in the same heatsink metal block). One of them is mobile (the next time you have a PS3 heatsink in your hands try to move one of the "block surfaces" and you will see one of them have a "gap" that allows it to move up or down
Well... that design with a mobile piece is because is imposible to have the CELL and RSX perfectly aligned in the motherboard, so the heatsink is supposed to "adapt" his height independently
The idea is nice... but in the practice doesnt works very well... what i could see is the whole heatsink is a bit "rigid" and doesnt adapts very well

I even "lapped" a PS3 slim heatsink (i leave the surfaces shiny like mirrors) and it was still having some small "gaps" in between heatsink surfaces and IHS
Of course... you can "fix" this problem by bending the metal plates at the back of heatsink to add a lot more pressure... but this could reach a point that should be considered risky

Long story short... you need to add a good amount of thermal paste on top of CELL and RSX IHS's (more than you are used to do in a normal PC)
And btw... this is another reason why a non-conductive thermal paste is better to use in PS3... because you need to "play safe", an excess of thermal paste is fine
 
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At this point is needed to clarify what is a "delid" of the IHS
The IHS are 2 metal pieces thatares either "sticked" with thermal glue (in RSX), or with a cord of silicone all around (in CELL)
Here can be seen how has been "unsticked" and flipped back
P1100353.png


There are different ways to do this (and i dont suggest you to use the one Naked_Snake1995 is suggesting to use, that method is risky snaaaaake)

@Khabibov please tell if you have trying this "deliding" of your PS3 IHS's
Hey Hey! How are my methods risky? It works for me lol :D

But yeah, everyone will develop theyre own techinique for deliding, ive got mine, that i feel, that its safe to preform, at least on the RSX.

The CELL i won´t touch it, not in a million years, not after what a professional delid i did back in 2011 to my 40Gb, back in my youth teenage and reckless days, time surely flies :D
 
The good thing is after your PS3's survived to the surgical extirpation they became legend :D

Btw, if at some point you decide to remove the CELL IHS of one of your PS3's... you could try to assemble everything without the IHS's
The difference in geometry and sizes is just the heatsink metal block is going to be located a bit closer to the motherboard (one or two milimeters as much... the thikness of the IHS that has been removed), so is needed to calculate and see if there is some problem because that height displacement
But if there is no problem in heights... then it should dissipate heat much better without the IHS's


The IHS exists mostly because the DIE material is silice, is a mineral and it "cracks" as easilly as glass. By adding the IHS metal plate on top it protects the DIE just incase someone starts struggling with a metal heatsink on top back and forth (this could "crack" the DIE easilly)
 
At this point is needed to clarify what is a "delid" of the IHS
The IHS are 2 metal pieces that are either "sticked" with thermal glue (in RSX), or with a cord of silicone all around (in CELL)
Here can be seen how has been "unsticked" and flipped back
P1100353.png


There are different ways to do this (and i dont suggest you to use the one Naked_Snake1995 is suggesting to use, that method is risky snaaaaake)

@Khabibov please tell if you have trying this "deliding" of your PS3 IHS's


I actually do both of your methods :D
First i spread a veeeeery thin layer of thermal paste, with a transparent plastic (that allows me to see under the plastic), and then i drop an small pea of thermal paste in the middle

In PC i only do the cardboard (but not the pea on top) because usually in PC the metal heatsinks surface does a very well contact with the processor die (or IHS) surface

But in PS3 the heatsink is double (CELL and RSX surfaces together in the same heatsink metal block). One of them is mobile (the next time you have a PS3 heatsink in your hands try to move one of the "block surfaces" and you will see one of them have a "gap" that allows it to move up or down
Well... that design with a mobile piece is because is imposible to have the CELL and RSX perfectly aligned in the motherboard, so the heatsink is supposed to "adapt" his height independently
The idea is nice... but in the practice doesnt works very well... what i could see is the whole heatsink is a bit "rigid" and doesnt adapts very well

I even "lapped" a PS3 slim heatsink (i leave the surfaces shiny like mirrors) and it was still having some small "gaps" in between heatsink surfaces and IHS
Of course... you can "fix" this problem by bending the metal plates at the back of heatsink to add a lot more pressure... but this could reach a point that should be considered risky

Long story short... you need to add a good amount of thermal paste on top of CELL and RSX IHS's (more than you are used to do in a normal PC)
And btw... this is another reason why a non-conductive thermal paste is better to use in PS3... because you need to "play safe", an excess of thermal paste is fine
I saw few YouTube tutorial about how to delid CPU of PS3 , they do it even in hard touch not gently, so at first I decided to do it with my first console using a cutter as I saw they do it by cutter too so I was happy when I managed to remove it then I put thermal paste and assembled my PS3 and shocked it wouldn't start, is makes beep with flash blinking red light, then I realized that I cut the connections on cpu board by the cutter, I was sad that I did it in bad way so I opened my second console to find out why I couldn't make it , I tried the second time but very gentle way by using old gift card and some of alcohol 70% but the card was bending so I ended up put thermal paste only on those two IHS, then after finishing it I got new problem I mentioned , but still can't believe that I did another wrong thing as I was very careful because of the my previous time hard lesson.

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I saw few YouTube tutorial about how to delid CPU of PS3 , they do it even in hard touch not gently, so at first I decided to do it with my first console using a cutter as I saw they do it by cutter too so I was happy when I managed to remove it then I put thermal paste and assembled my PS3 and shocked it wouldn't start, is makes beep with flash blinking red light, then I realized that I cut the connections on cpu board by the cutter, I was sad that I did it in bad way so I opened my second console to find out why I couldn't make it , I tried the second time but very gentle way by using old gift card and some of alcohol 70% but the card was bending so I ended up put thermal paste only on those two IHS, then after finishing it I got new problem I mentioned , but still can't believe that I did another wrong thing as I was very careful because of the my previous time hard lesson.

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So the PS3 we are talking about has not been delided, right ?, you just changed thermal paste ?

In that case the only things that could have damaged it is when you separated the heatsink metal block from the motherboard the first time
Sometimes the thermal paste is acting a bit like "glue" and is needed to pull out a bit, this could bend the motherboard, do you remember if you needed to make much strenght when doing this ?

And what you should do anyway is to dissassemble it completly and assemble it again, keep an eye at how are assembled the 2 "metal shields" that covers the motherboard like a sandwich
In the border where are the connectors one of the metal shields have like a couple of "holes" and you need to insert the other metal shield there... then close the metal shields like a book

If you dont assemble this metal shields well sometimes they makes a shorcut because touches the motherboard circuit and the PS3 doesnt boots (the motherboard detects the shorcut and refuses to boot)
I hope is this, anyway, you are at the point where you need to dissassemble it and try to boot the motherboard separatedlly

And btw, NEVER BOOT the motherboard without the heatsink (and bolts well thighted) and fan in his place
If you do it can overheat very fast, in a matter of couple of minutes, i hope you did not tryed this

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Btw, for the other PS3 you had time ago that had an scratch on top of CELL fiberglass surface there is a thing you can try, the copper traces are microscopic but well, maybe you are lucky
First you need to remove the green varnish with sandpaper around the cutted traces... then with lot of flux (is a liquid that allows the solder to attach better to the copper) drop a solder ball on top and move the melted solder ball with the solder iron all over the area with cuts
Sometimes the solder does like "bridges" that when gets solid could connect a cutted trace
 
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I saw few YouTube tutorial about how to delid CPU of PS3 , they do it even in hard touch not gently, so at first I decided to do it with my first console using a cutter as I saw they do it by cutter too so I was happy when I managed to remove it then I put thermal paste and assembled my PS3 and shocked it wouldn't start, is makes beep with flash blinking red light, then I realized that I cut the connections on cpu board by the cutter, I was sad that I did it in bad way so I opened my second console to find out why I couldn't make it , I tried the second time but very gentle way by using old gift card and some of alcohol 70% but the card was bending so I ended up put thermal paste only on those two IHS, then after finishing it I got new problem I mentioned , but still can't believe that I did another wrong thing as I was very careful because of the my previous time hard lesson.

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You were not the only one lad hahahahaha...

The first time i delided the CELL it was with a kitchen knife [emoji23]

Adapt, Improvise, Overcome - Words to live by [emoji23]

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I actually do both of your methods :D
First i spread a veeeeery thin layer of thermal paste, with a transparent plastic (that allows me to see under the plastic), and then i drop an small pea of thermal paste in the middle

Long story short... you need to add a good amount of thermal paste on top of CELL and RSX IHS's (more than you are used to do in a normal PC)
And btw... this is another reason why a non-conductive thermal paste is better to use in PS3... because you need to "play safe", an excess of thermal paste is fine

I just cake them in a carbon based thermal paste, this is why I suggested to use Arctic MX-4. As you can get it anywhere, if your messy and don't have a steady hand anyways:D, and it won't cause shorts or bridge connections. Its also the recommended one to use on the PS3 dev Wiki.

@Khabibov you also may want to check all the connections and ribbon cables, specifically the ribbon cable behind the BD Drive, I didn't have it seated correctly when I did mine and the PS3 didn't boot correctly and shut down. I didn't lift the Black clip on it all the way before inserting the ribbon cable, then once inserted push it down.

The first time i delided the CELL it was with a kitchen knife [emoji23]

What? o_O a kitchen knife??? :eek::D what where you trying to do? fix the PS3 or murder it? :rolling:
 
I just cake them in a carbon based thermal paste, this is why I suggested to use Arctic MX-4. As you can get it anywhere, if your messy and don't have a steady hand anyways:D, and it won't cause shorts or bridge connections. Its also the recommended one to use on the PS3 dev Wiki.

@Khabibov you also may want to check all the connections and ribbon cables, specifically the ribbon cable behind the BD Drive, I didn't have it seated correctly when I did mine and the PS3 didn't boot correctly and shut down. I didn't lift the Black clip on it all the way before inserting the ribbon cable, then once inserted push it down.



What? o_O a kitchen knife??? :eek::D what where you trying to do? fix the PS3 or murder it? :rolling:
That was back in my youth days mate, during the summer, my 40Gb kicked the Fan, so young stupid me, delided the RSX, and it was a success, but the Fan was still loud, so i delided the CELL, and then s@it happend! I scratched the CELL traces, and got YLOD :D
#NoRagrets :D
 
That was back in my youth days mate, during the summer, my 40Gb kicked the Fan, so young stupid me, delided the RSX, and it was a success, but the Fan was still loud, so i delided the CELL, and then s@it happend! I scratched the CELL traces, and got YLOD :D
#NoRagrets :D
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