PS3 80010017 Error on Games Dumped from PC

MrMario2011

MrMario2011

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Edit/Solution: Dump your games using your PS3, not a PC with a BD drive. Pretty sure my memory is pulling tricks on me, this was explained by @sandungas here:

Most of the files in a PS3 BD game are encrypted, if you make a copy of them in PC are not valid, the PS3 decrypts them "on the fly"
And when you make a dump of them in the PS3 are not "resigned" or modifyed at all by default, the resigning is an optional thing you could do after the dump is made but nowadays is pointless

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/help-converting-blu-ray-games-to-iso.23704/#post-173590
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So I'm currently backing up a few games to test out and I've noticed I have had absolutely no luck getting games dumped from my PC to boot up! I've simply copy/pasted the files and have also made an ISO of the disc then extracted it. Tried playing internally and externally, no luck with these. I was messing around with PS3HEN quite a bit and thought maybe it was a quirk with that, but just now trying this on my 4.84 REBUG CEX CFW console and have the same issue!

So right now I'm tackling this on CFW. I've attempted to use IRISMAN, multiMAN, and ManaGunZ. Every time I try to boot up a game from a manager, then go to XMB and boot it from the disc icon, it goes through the process of booting up then kicks me back to the XMB with a 80010017 error. However I verified one game which didn't work when ripped on my PC did work when ripped using multiMAN! To be sure I even tried this dump on another console and it worked just fine, but the PC dumps do not.

Is there any special magic or secret sauce happening when a game is ripped on a PS3 vs. a PC? I was using my PC as it's much faster, plus I ripped many games using a PC with a BD drive years ago and had success with those games.
 
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not sure about the burning issue. I've never burned a ps3 game. 80010017 usually means that it can't decrypt the eboot.
 
They're not burned discs, though? As opposed to dumping these games using my PS3 console, I dumped them using my PC with a BD drive.

I was led to something related to EBOOT decryption as well, but does dumping the disc using something such as multiMAN perform any magic on the dumped EBOOT file?
 
iirc, it will resign the eboot (if on different firmware 4.21+) upon loading it for the first time. that fixes I think either error 80010006 or 80010009.
 
That had crossed my mind, so I attempted to use the "Re-sign" feature on ManaGunZ to see if that would fix anything. This is what I seem to get:

Re-signing EBOOT.BIN
Error: could not process file
Error : Failed extract EBOOT.BIN

Attempting to run "Patch EBOOT" instantly fails.
 
not sure. the error can occur if you use a 3.55 patch (fix) on 4.21. I'm not sure if this is true of all games with 3.55 patches though, but a lot of games have to be redone. it can also happen if something is wrong with a rap or it's missing.
 
As these are just folder/disc based games being run through a game manager I can rule out missing RAP or license files. These would all be completely untouched, simply copy and pasted. I'm stumped!
 
you could try decrypting the eboot with scetool or using scetool gui to check the firmware keys the eboot is using.
 
Well I just tried out scetool in PS3Tools GUI as well as ESSSE Resigner. Neither will process the EBOOT.BIN copied using my PC, although I got a bit more of an output when using Decrypt_Eboot.bat within ESSE Resigner:

[*] Error: Could not process EBOOT.BIN
[*] Error: Could not find Rap file in RAPS folder!

This was simply me copying the EBOOT.BIN into the resigner's root folder and running that Decrypt_Eboot.bat file. However I did the same thing with the same EBOOT.BIN copied from multiMAN and it worked just fine! I'm currently testing this on quite old games (Call of Duty 4 and inFamous) so newer keys shouldn't be an issue.
 
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sandungas said:
Most of the files in a PS3 BD game are encrypted, if you make a copy of them in PC are not valid, the PS3 decrypts them "on the fly"
And when you make a dump of them in the PS3 are not "resigned" or modifyed at all by default, the resigning is an optional thing you could do after the dump is made but nowadays is pointless

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/help-converting-blu-ray-games-to-iso.23704/#post-173590
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That's a suspicion I had, thank you! So dumping the disc from a PS3 decrypts the dump allowing it to work? I swear I was able to copy using my PC years ago, but I might be getting a few things confused so don't take what I say as fact.

I would assume there is no way to decrypt and PC made dumps to get them to work? Ripping using my PC is so much faster, but of course useless if the games won't work.
 
Rought explain... think in it this way:
-the BD disc is divided in regions (or partitions)
-some of that regions are covered by a blanket (an encryption layer)

If you remove the encryption layer you still have encrypted files (like the EBOOT.BIN) but that ones are fine and readable with a backup manager, you can make an ISO with them

The reason why we needed to resign them years ago is because the scene was stopped in 3.55 but was released new games using keys newer than 3.55 (games published for 3.56 later 3.60 etc...)
So we was resigning the EBOOT.BIN and all game executables to 3.40
Actually, most homebrew apps are signed for 3.40 because thats the first PS3 firmware that was hacked (but we could use 1.00 or something lower though)

Nowadays you have a firmware installed in your PS3 that is bigger than the firmware required by the game to run... so DONT RESIGN ANYTHING
The best thing you can do nowadays is to preserve the game files as much closer to the originals


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I dont know if there is some way to remove that "encryption layer" with a PC and a standard BD PC drive
Maybe by using some of the keys that appears in the IRD files
That IRD files was made by people with a special adaptor board + a real PS3 BD drive connected to the PC. With that setup they was able to make a copy much closer to a 1:1 of the original
 
oh, I thought the games you ripped on pc had worked for you in the past. I assumed you had a compatible burner (if there is one). tbh, I'm surprised it ripped anything.
 
I swear I remember being able to properly play games I had copied using my PC with a standard BD drive, but again I might be misremembering and confusing these with dumps I had created using my PS3. This would certainly answer several things I've run into recently though, and I really appreciate all the explanations. I don't mind locking this thread as a solution has been found, I'll drop it into my OP. :)
 
I apologize for the bump.

is there any way to decrypt the .iso on pc nowadays? just ripped my copy of ratchet and clank tod and its not playing along, I dont feel like ripping it once again from my ps3 and then transferring it over as its size is 21gb+.

Thanks.
 
On PS3 read the disc key or download it from the internet and You will be able to decrypt this image. There are plenty of threads on forum about this, use search option and You will find procedure and tools. Even last month as I remember correctly...
 
MrMario2011 said:
Edit/Solution: Dump your games using your PS3, not a PC with a BD drive. Pretty sure my memory is pulling tricks on me, this was explained by @sandungas here:



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So I'm currently backing up a few games to test out and I've noticed I have had absolutely no luck getting games dumped from my PC to boot up! I've simply copy/pasted the files and have also made an ISO of the disc then extracted it. Tried playing internally and externally, no luck with these. I was messing around with PS3HEN quite a bit and thought maybe it was a quirk with that, but just now trying this on my 4.84 REBUG CEX CFW console and have the same issue!

So right now I'm tackling this on CFW. I've attempted to use IRISMAN, multiMAN, and ManaGunZ. Every time I try to boot up a game from a manager, then go to XMB and boot it from the disc icon, it goes through the process of booting up then kicks me back to the XMB with a 80010017 error. However I verified one game which didn't work when ripped on my PC did work when ripped using multiMAN! To be sure I even tried this dump on another console and it worked just fine, but the PC dumps do not.

Is there any special magic or secret sauce happening when a game is ripped on a PS3 vs. a PC? I was using my PC as it's much faster, plus I ripped many games using a PC with a BD drive years ago and had success with those games.
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Yes, there is a "magic". The 3k3y team solved it using an adaptor that allow you to connect the PS3 BD Drive on PC. It's because every PS3 disc has it's own D1 / D2 ("data1/data2"?) used to decrypt the disc. The 3k3y team also created a new file format, called IRD, that has all the file's hashs of a PS3 disc and, it also contains the D1 / D2.
Redump did something like this, but more simple: the file only stores the key to decrypt the disc.
Finnaly, the developer 13xforever created an app to dump the PS3 Disc to the "JB folder format", using the IRD or Redump files to decrypt it.
https://github.com/13xforever/ps3-disc-dumper/releases
 
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