PS3 sMAN (webMAN + slaunch) v1.12n

[haxxxen]

Can you see the files using the XMB file manager or with multiMAN file manager?

If the files cannot be accessed through these applications, sMAN won't access them either.

even mmCM cannot access the disc in filemanager mode (gives lv2 exception/crash), but it lists the games in game tab and I can mount them fine, so the fake iso files are working. now, when I erase all files and copy back these ntfs files to tmp and reboot, sM lists and can mount the games fine, but not by itself. sman.bin also lists all games, but does not create the ntfs files and does not list them on its own

Did you try using usb001?

nope, only using port0. have removed all other usb references and also have no filemanager on xmb/sM setup

hopefully, a fresh and full re-format of the drive can help? have to try

the thing is, I had to fix ntfs compatibility on my own in sman source (1.07+1.12), since it was broken, so maybe there are more things broken in source? would like to talk to dean about this

 

[aldostools]

even mmCM cannot access the disc in filemanager mode (gives lv2 exception/crash), but it lists the games in game tab and I can mount them fine, so the fake iso files are working. now, when I erase all files and copy back these ntfs files to tmp and reboot, sM lists and can mount the games fine, but not by itself. sman.bin also lists all games, but does not create the ntfs files and does not list them on its own

nope, only using port0. have removed all other usb references and also have no filemanager on xmb/sM setup

Check with webMAN MOD (it has a XMB File Manager in the setup menu) or install multiMAN. Without a reference it is difficult to tell what's the issue.

Maybe it's related to your removed usb port.

 

[haxxxen]

Check with webMAN MOD (it has a XMB File Manager in the setup menu) or install multiMAN. Without a reference it is difficult to tell what's the issue.

Maybe it's related to your removed usb port.

there is no problem with this, since all other externals ntfs/fat32 work fine. it is only this big one, which I have bought not so long ago

I have tried mmCM with filemanager, but it crashes w/o freeze when I want to access the drive

 

[aldostools]

there is no problem with this, since all other externals ntfs/fat32 work fine. it is only this big one, which I have bought not so long ago

I have tried mmCM with filemanager, but it crashes w/o freeze when I want to access the drive

If mmCM also crashed, then the issue is not sMAN. It seems that there is some incompatibility with the native driver.

Try replacing the enclosure or use NTFS or exFAT+prepISO.

 

[haxxxen]

If mmCM also crashed, then the issue is not sMAN. It seems that there is some incompatibility with the native driver.

Try replacing the enclosure or use NTFS or exFAT+prepISO.

I see, so it is the drive's own driver which makes problems. I already have tried an esata station with this drive and some ordinary mini usb cable with no luck, so don't you think a full format could help here, do you? making a bootable dos partition or alike

I have noticed the ntfs header and source file have exfat included, so maybe I can make it natively work only with the ntfs sources

 

[bguerville]

@haxxxen

I dunno if your issues are related to this but the following is relevant for sMan & wMM used in conjunction with big ntfs partitions ie partitions > 1Tb. Maybe you already know all this but just in case you don't, here goes.

deank was the first dev to use the libntfs port for prx projects that freddy & I put together when he created sMan.
He had some issue with the resource management aspect iirc & decided to lower the value of certain constant(s) (I cannot recall which, you could compare the original commits from freddy & later ones that integrated deank's changes).

One known consequence of the changes made by deank was that libntfs for prx could only deal with a certain amount of clusters.
The issue can be overcome by increasing the size of the clusters with any decent partition manager. There is no need to reformat the partition.
Say the cluster size is currently 4kb then use 8kb, if it is 8 kb, use 16kb. That kinda thing.
Iirc the default cluster size used by Windows partitioning tools on a 2Tb partition would lead to having more clusters than the ntfs library for prx can manage creating issues with the file manager, the ftp server etc..

This problem appears in the sMan file manager & ftp server because they both use libntfs for prx but not with the game mounting features which do not use that library. As to the prepiso self, it uses psl1ght libntfs so it doesn't have this problem either.

 

[haxxxen]

@bguerville
awesome, many thanks for your valuable input, cause I had no clue at all. though, do you think his changes would make any impact on a simple 2tb drive? tbh, it is my first big external hdd so I have no experience with such drives, but it works even with its own usb3 adapter+cable on ps3. ok, it is broken somehow atm and hopefully this can be fixed by raising some "stats" lol

additionally I wonder why dean has left ntfs compatibility broken on his sources in sMAN. you can try for yourself and compile it, it won't work for ntfs the way it is. though it was only a matter of moving a function or even only changing a bracket and some polishing here and there

edit
oh my, now I see it is sata3, so guess now I have the culprit. I think I have read on here that sata3 does not very well with ps3

 

[bguerville]

@haxxxen

I edited my post a little to add a few details. Among those, iirc the default cluster size for a 2Tb ntfs partition implies a total number of clusters that is higher than the maximum the ntfs library for prx can handle.
So unless you customised the cluster size already, your 2Tb ntfs partition is most likely NOT supported by sMan file manager or FTP server.
If you increase the cluster size, your partition will be supported just fine.

HOWEVER I dunno whether it will solve all your issues!

Regarding sMan sources (sMan 1.12n), I made a custom version recently for someone who wished sMan to scan custom folders & to be able to choose the ps1 emu self, it was only a few months ago, I don't recall having any problems.
Where exactly is that issue? In the libntfs_prx.a library? In sMan main.c?
The final compression method glueing the resources with the binary can be tricky to deal with when encountered for the first time & iirc you need to make adjustments if your binary file size increases or decreases dramatically. That's about it.

 

[haxxxen]

@bguerville
thanks for this input. I will try to increase the cluster size

about sM, hm it can be that 1.12 is fine but 1.07, the last without predefined pages was broken. I thought up to 1.09 there were issues with ntfs code

 

[Zwei]

not using any hub and my externals get connected to port000, so it is /dev_ntfs00

this was the error:

got?

 

[haxxxen]

@bguerville
woohoo, it has "magically" worked, so many thanks for your input. I had to increase the cluster size to 16, but now this external works fine

again, many thanks

 

[bguerville]

@bguerville
woohoo, it has "magically" worked, so many thanks for your input. I had to increase the cluster size to 16, but now this external works fine

again, many thanks

No worries.
;-)

Someone may want to revisit ntfs support one day though. I was thinking about making a ntfs/exfat support kernel library plugin which functions would be integrated into the sys_fs syscalls in such a way that ntfs would be supported by native lv2 syscalls from userland as well as userland libc calls (ultimately relying on syscalls anyway).
It would cut the crap for developers who would no longer need to bother with libraries & APIs, juggling with different code for different file systems.

 

[noctis90210]

Upon installing the latest webMan mod, it also installs the slaunch. just wanna ask how to delete the slaunch and all its file dependencies? i only want the webman. thanks.

 

[Coro]

Upon installing the latest webMan mod, it also installs the slaunch. just wanna ask how to delete the slaunch and all its file dependencies? i only want the webman. thanks.

it is just a theme AFAIK. find the setting named "sman gui" and turn it off.

 

[aldostools]

Upon installing the latest webMan mod, it also installs the slaunch. just wanna ask how to delete the slaunch and all its file dependencies? i only want the webman. thanks.

Open http://0/setup.ps3 then expand the section "XMB/In-Game PAD SHORTCUTS", uncheck "GAME MENU" and save.

The files will not be deleted, but the sLaunch menu will be disabled. Anyway these files and dependencies don't use much HDD space.

The sMAN GUI theme also can be disabled in http://0/setup.ps3

 

[NoSoul]

Anyway to modify where you hit square to choose different platforms and make a custom one? I want to have a playlist of the games I'm playing the most not sure if that's possible though.

 

[aldostools]

Anyway to modify where you hit square to choose different platforms and make a custom one? I want to have a playlist of the games I'm playing the most not sure if that's possible though.

It sounds like the "favorites" feature of sLaunch menu in webMAN MOD.
It uses SELECT to toggle the "favorites" mode and START to add/remove games to/from favorites.

 

[NoSoul]

It sounds like the "favorites" feature of sLaunch menu in webMAN MOD.
It uses SELECT to toggle the "favorites" mode and START to add/remove games to/from favorites.

But it doesn't work in sman?

 

[aldostools]

But it doesn't work in sman?

No, the internal data structure of the game list is different.

 

[ashmodeo]

Hello sorry for bringing back an old thread discussion two years later, i've recently installed hen on my ps3 and i've always used to load my games with old plugin sman 1.12 on my other ps3 that runs custom firmware and I know about webmanmod is a more up to date plugin but i like the way sman handles and mount iso's in a flick of a second, but unfortunately sman for hen only mounts iso's from internal hdd. Is there any way in making this simple plugin compatible with hen latest version to mount games from ntfs?