PS4 PS4 6.20 kernel Exploit Coming Soon ? TheFlow says " don‘t update past 6.20 if you want a kxploit"

It appears that TheFlow0 a very well know PS Vita developer/hacker who developed exploits like h-encore & Trinity and homebrew applications such as VitaShell for the PS Vita, has now been exploring the PS4.The developer has made a suggestion to the PS4 Community, as the dev advises anyone who is staying on lower ps4 firmware's in hopes for an exploit should not update past 6.20 Firmware, that got some attention as that could be the next fully exploited firmware that arises on the PlayStation 4. We have seen the release of multiple 6.20 WebKit exploits in the public (seen here from Specterdev (patched in 6.50) and then also Fire30 subsequently with another (different webkit entry) seen here (patched in 6.72)) which these two webkit exploits are the first piece, typically servings as a "foot in the door" or "entry point" for additional explorations / execution of potentials like a kernel exploits once (if) discovered.. TheFlow0's recent tweets (as outlined below) suggest he may of found that next piece in the all important kxploit and that means we may be graduating to 6.20 from 5.05 in the near future. However, this is still a bit early as the dev is just now getting his hands on the actual hardware to put his confident theories to the test (it appears, however he had confirmed (?) some discovery or theories with the latest tweet). This developer/hacker is very talented and well known so there is confidence among many of the claims made are positive steps forward. Stay tuned to the story as this develops, the developer is likely to give some additional progress reports in the future on his official twitter linked below, and we will keep you posted about any news that rolls out pertaining to what appears to be an advancement in the PS4 community that has been seeing a rise in development..

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Tweet Timeline

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  • Mar 10 - Somebody wanna donate me a 6.20FW PS4?
    • Mar 11 - Alright my man @qwertyoruiopz has me one
  • Mar 11 - Also don't update past FW 6.20 if you want a kxploit
  • Mar 13 - I didn't have any vulnerabilities when I wrote that. Now I have. 3 days later

TheFlow's Official Twitter https://twitter.com/theflow0/
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but that is not reality... its fantasy i would love to pick the right lotto numbers as well

But its not fantasy, if you dont release the exploit, it doesnt get patched, so you CAN choose a good time. Like after PS5 release for example.

Let say we get a PSP exploit now and see how much development comes fromit rather then when it did.

PSP exploit now is a bit of an extreme example, how about my example of releasing PS3 key fail at 4.50? Still plenty of life left in ps3 since then, and ps4 was out a few weeks later, that would have been great IMO and cost Sony and game devs a lot less in piracy.

We would be better off now due to CFW on all models, so we would be happier, and Sony/game devs would be happier. Win-Win?

 

But its not fantasy, if you dont release the exploit, it doesnt get patched, so you CAN choose a good time. Like after PS5 release for example.

if does not constitute in choosing. Especially with webkit exploits they can be flaws not just on one platform. So they are often patched. If you dont release the exploit its essentially a patch for the scene, kind of the same theory as someone scared to get banned on PSN and never signs in. They are scared of a ban so they self ban.. Its a ban either way.. This is kind of the same thing logic here.

We would be better off now due to CFW on all models, so we would be happier, and Sony/game devs would be happier. Win-Win?

Obviously we would be better, but your telling me someone should of said hey we should save this exploit that allows for CFW installations on all models for something that was and could not be known for the future. In the creation of new models, that were designed in part to curb said exploits/flaws.


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PSP exploit now is a bit of an extreme example, how about my example of releasing PS3 key fail at 4.50? Still plenty of life left in ps3 since then, and ps4 was out a few weeks later, that would have been great IMO and cost Sony and game devs a lot less in piracy.

Not really..
Your example. Was a flaw discovery, what if Sony found out this before and corrected it.
Then we might never have CFW think about that. Sometimes you take what you can get an not take for granted. As it can be patched.. Sony devs could of noticed this just as easy as scene hackers and made a fix before.. Then we might be relying on DONGLES and the CFW releases KILLED the " pay for hacks " model as well.. SO there is TONS of variables and not anyone compare to the next.

 

if all consoles were hacked after end of lifecycle SCENE WOULD SUCK...

But that's exactly what happen to Vita scene. And now we have greatest scene since PS2 and XC on this console.

 

f does not constitute in choosing. Especially with webkit exploits they can be flaws not just on one platform. So they are often patched. If you dont release the exploit its essentially a patch for the scene, kind of the same theory as someone scared to get banned on PSN and never signs in. They are scared of a ban so they self ban.. Its a ban either way.. This is kind of the same thing logic here.

I do not see the link at all. Self ban? we have no choice in this. so...this is about getting a better hack in the end IMO. how is that related to someone getting nothing ever by never going online.

Obviously we would be better, but your telling me someone should of said hey we should save this exploit that allows for CFW installations on all models for something that was and could not be known for the future. In the creation of new models, that were designed in part to curb said exploits/flaws.

You would really rather an exploit release today, where as I would rather the same exploit in a year with PSVR2 support and probably a few more HW revisions supported and who knows what else. And also I would not like to see all the piracy that would come with that, Sony and game devs will take much less of a hit after PS5 release when that is their main focus.

We just see it differently. I also want the devs to continue to have access to new FW, as when they release they get locked out too.

 

But that's exactly what happen to Vita scene. And now we have greatest scene since PS2 and XC on this console.

Are you kidding me lol

There is a long history of Vita hacks
We had many PSP hacks on the vita
We have revitalize
We had henkaku
We had Enso
we had..
we had...
we had...
ect...

The vita has had many current firmware exploits and they did not happen at the end it was progress that lead it to there. SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR PROJECTS WERE CREATED during that first homebrew exploit.

 

There is a long history of Vita hacks
We had many PSP hacks on the vita
We have revitalize

Those were not great IMO, they saved the best til last and lucky for us.

 

You would really rather an exploit release today, where as I would rather the same exploit in a year with PSVR2 support and probably a few more HW revisions supported and who knows what else. And also I would not like to see all the piracy that would come with that, Sony and game devs will take much less of a hit after PS5 release when that is their main focus.

We just see it differently. I also want the devs to continue to have access to new FW, as when they release they get locked out too.

How many console and devices been hacked and only seen a single explot?

 

How many console and devices been hacked and only seen a single explot?

I do not know, but I do know PS3 users waited a very long time for the second one.

So imagine for a minute it goes exactly like PS3, they release the big exploit on 3.55 FW....

• Sony get destroyed by piracy since summer 2016
• We have no pro models supported
• We have no slim models supported
• We wait 8+ years for a new exploit that supports homebrew on slims and pros.

 

I do not know, but I do know PS3 users waited a very long time for the second one.

So imagine for a minute it goes exactly like PS3, they release the big exploit on 3.55 FW....

• Sony get destroyed by piracy since summer 2016
• We have no pro models supported
• We have no slim models supported
• We wait 8+ years for a new exploit that supports homebrew on slims and pros.

They did not wait long at all 3.41 <> 3.55

 

Well it was based on the same exploit, they didnt/couldnt patch it properly. When it was patched it was a long long time.

 

Well it was based on the same exploit, they didnt/couldnt patch it properly. When it was patched it was a long long time.

Different hack/exploit from 3.41 to 3.55

Then we had 4.xx released to combat some shadiness where a company wanted you to give up your Console ID's to install a CFW.. So there been different reasons and environments for just about every exploit released on any console.

I dont think you should back date releases and i do not think you should wait until end of the life cycle. We can agree to dsiagree but the only thing i will say I have not been wrong in anything i have said and predicted about the PS4 scene...

 

Different hack/exploit from 3.41 to 3.55

Ok. My mistake. Still a long wait since is my point. Hacks are not unlimited, just cos there was 2 next to each other does not mean there will be more all the way up through the fws.

So yeah, we got 4.76 and 5.05 too on PS4, it does not mean there will be loads more.

 

Ok. My mistake. Still a long wait since is my point. Hacks are not unlimited, just cos there was 2 next to each other does not mean there will be more all the way up through the fws.

So yeah, we got 4.76 and 5.05 too on PS4, it does not mean there will be loads more.

1.76 as well and we have 6.20 perhaps . So that is 4 (past dated releases). One of those was current we would be talking about a more vibrant community . Then if we had held all those to 8.00 as you said well it would be a waste IMO.. At least 3 of them...

 

1.76

Yes, exactly, we have had exploits too.

It was easy to get a 5.05 PS4 when that came out, it was even easy to get a compatible pro.

 

Yes, exactly, we have had exploits too.

It was easy to get a 5.05 PS4 when that came out, it was even easy to get a compatible pro.

Easy? That is an opinion.

What do you think attracts more development.
When someone can hack what they already own, or they need to seek out a new model that has to be a certain firmware (for a community that does not have an audience or alot of developers).. Your not getting many hobby developer's but only a hardcore scener or someone in the scene for the wrong reasons. But how many times has a new face really helped a project or done something for the scene. Many times and that is what the PS4 scene cuts off..

 

What do you think attracts more development.
When someone can hack what they already own, or they need to seek out a new model that has to be a certain firmware (for a community that does not have an audience or alot of developers).. Your not getting many hobby developer's but only a hardcore scener or someone in the scene for the wrong reasons. But how many times has a new face really helped a project or done something for the scene. Many times and that is what the PS4 scene cuts off..

I am not saying it wouldn't help development to release hacks on latest OFW.

Easy? That is an opinion.

It is, that's all I have

 

I am not saying it wouldn't help development to release hacks on latest OFW.

Then if you believe that you can't think after the interest of the PS4 wears off and is likely people's secondary console that its magically going to be the golden age of development for that console.

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IMO that ship will have passed... The timeframe from that is PS5 Slim, when that launches that is when PS5 takes over PS4. So we have time now, but its at a point where the golden age is being passed over

 

Then if you believe that you can't think after the interest of the PS4 wears off and is likely people's secondary console that its magically going to be the golden age of development for that console.

I do not think the interest will have worn off after PS5 release, or in a year..Only my opinion.

 

I do not think the interest will have worn off after PS5 release, or in a year..Only my opinion.

Would it be less then if a current exploit came out now?
If so then that kind of makes my point right?

 

Would it be less then if a current exploit came out now?
If so then that kind of makes my point right?

Probably less yes, but so what, people dont always get what they want.

I 100% agree you would get more developers involved and more users if you released now compared to later.

I still don't mind waiting as there are upsides to that too.