PS3 Update: Sony backtracks and announces PS3 and Vita Stores to remain open!

[Yo_Yo]

So why? And how many games lost patches?

Yea I would like to know too. I just started backing up not too long ago. Dantes inferno went missing sometime after 2/22 (according to my creation date) so sometime in the past month. Who knows why or how many other ones I've missed.

PS: Illegal. They are free but we are not allows to upload them on the same ways as downloading them outside PS3 is illegal in most of western countries (if home's door is not lock, it doesn't mean You can enter to the neighbour house ;]).

Well, shoot. I hope someone creates a script soon. At least I have 99% of what I need for now. I still need to check on bundled games like Assasins creed Trilogy, Americas collection and whatnot that have multiple game ID's in one. I just checked for the ID's listed after renaming the ISO, so these are probably worth a look if anyone has these types. If I collect a few more games in the future that wouldn't be good either without access to updates.

 

[DeViL303]

 

[Berion]

Nice quote from a nice guy, but judge will answer: dura lex sed lex and You will end with ruining forfeit.

Does some peoples care? Well, I'm glad that no, but I just informing.

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Chill out people, the store isnt going to close that soon.

I usually don't curse,but today i'll make a exception!

Reddit,YouTube,Twitter, you name it, its all infested with the same proofless articles and rumours, like f@cks sakes, its already getting on my nerves, everyone is loosing they're sh!t, over a thing that has a 20% chance of happening.

This "rumour" its just another fire buzz started 3 years ago, and multiple year attempts it always came as inaccurate, this year is the same sh!t!

This dumb p@icks from the website that started this stir again, clamed that Sony will shutdown the PS3,PSV and PSP Store, and they,i quote, confirmed it with they're inside sources,like motherf@cker, your inside source is some c@nt like you throwing around false information, i want proof not some written source, that means sh!t, what do they have to hide that much?!

This "The Gamer" is just another tabloid,known for posting fake articles for clicks and attention, but everyone is taking these fake f@cks seriously,like they are the messiah, they are worthless, same as the information they posted,until proven otherwise or directly from Sony.

Like b!tch, you serious?! The PSP Store was shutdown years ago, 2014 to be precisely, but you still could buy PSP Games of the PS3,VITA or PC, but this is because PSP had bare minimum online infrastructure, PS3 and VITA is a different story.

The store isnt going away soon, on Legacy platforms, all PlayStation Systems use the same network infrastructure, but if the store shutsdown, im 99.8% certian that is only for game purchases, this won't affect already purchased content or updates.

One thing i praise Sony, is that they don't act like thoes c@nts at NINTENDO, which with every legacy system they decide to cut the infrastructure,and say, you download your sh!t or too bad, your console broke? Well too f@cking bad boyo, you aint getting your sh!t!

This is why i never buy or support NINTENDO products unless they are physical copies, i don't trust NINTENDO nor Sony on the digital distribution front, but Sony has a bit more common sense, but that can change.


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[DeViL303]

Obviously download lists will still work for years. They are not going to instantly shut people out of a game they buy next week. If it does happen it will only be new game purchases that get shut down.

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

Obviously download lists will still work for years. They are not going to instantly shut people out of a game they buy next week. If it does happen it will only be new game purchases that get shut down.

I agree on that part, Sony isnt going just to pull the plug like Nintendo does, and sends the middle finger, but here is the gist, this "rumour" is nothing more than a buzz created from a unreliable source with nothing to prove, yet people still jumped the gun way too soon, until we hear from Sony, which acording to the "sources" it should be next week, i refuse to believe a bunch of progressive fake journalists with fake and uncredible sources, until proven otherwise.

Just on a little side note, there are still PSVITA digital titles being planned and developed for digital distribution, which is another red flag, that the article authenticity is beyond questionable.

 

[DeViL303]

It might be BS, we can hope and time will tell. I am kinda leaning towards there being some bit of truth to it. Maybe they have it wrong on Vita, but the fact the have specific dates and they are not particularly known to write completely fake stories all the time makes me think there might be something to it.

It would make sense that the PS3 store will go down reasonably soon, like in the next couple of years anyway, I doubt it makes massive money for them anymore.

 

[0s4X]

S0ny was sued to ban PS5 consoles...

lol,why?

 

[Naked_Snake1995]

lol,why?

This was due to the PS Plus Collection loophole, people would ask a friend with a PS5 to redeem the Collection which would be playable on a PS4.

People would offer services, specially Brasil had a ton of people redeeming for others as a payed service, Sony didn't like that, eventually banned on a account and console level, anyone daring to redeem more than 10 times on a single console, rendering the PS5 useless.

Sony reason stated as a temporary measure for suspicious activity,although the ban was temporary at first,it quickly became permanently after November,on both the consoles and accounts, Brasil customers didn't buy into that,and started to sue Sony for intelectual damages.


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[SaltedHashflip]

In light of this possibly happening, there's been chatter on Twitter regarding what happens when CMOS batteries start dying and the servers needed to verify when digital games were activated are gone. i.e: it might lock everybody out of their games.
Though I'm sure it'll be a long time until this is an actual issue even if the PS3 Store really is getting shutdown this year (this is all also assuming Sony wouldn't crank out an EOL update to disable the check)
Is this... actually true, and if so, is this something that could at least theoretically be prevented (like through cancelling or tricking the clock check) through CFW, HEN, a program that works on both or are we just boned?

 

[DeViL303]

In light of this possibly happening, there's been chatter on Twitter regarding what happens when CMOS batteries start dying and the servers needed to verify when digital games were activated are gone. i.e: it might lock everybody out of their games.
Though I'm sure it'll be a long time until this is an actual issue even if the PS3 Store really is getting shutdown this year (this is all also assuming Sony wouldn't crank out an EOL update to disable the check)
Is this... actually true, and if so, is this something that could at least theoretically be prevented (like through cancelling or tricking the clock check) through CFW, HEN, a program that works on both or are we just boned?

It's a non issue IMO. We can change the clock on CFW and HEN. Also there is nothing to say them shutting down the store means they will shut down the server that handles that. It's not like the PS store and everything else related to PS3 is on one server and they are just going to switch it off.

If someone is really worried, just change the battery now and you have 10+ years before it needs changing again.

It's just people on twitter trying to generate fear and likes, FUD IMO, the usual for twitter.

 

[wk1207]

I don't know if anyone know this, but I'll try since this forum always seems to have knowledge and answers:

If PSN on PS3 is shutting down, what about udates, patches, DLC's and so on, for physical games?
Personally I'm sitting on a large stack of physical PS3 games I have never played yet, would something like that make them all under risk to be more or less "unplayable" if not installed and updated before shut down?
Or is that just and issue with digital copies then?

I haven't got the disk space (or time, probably) to install them all at once, and even if I did, there's still the question about future purchases of used games then, I guess.

Maybe I'm all wrong about this, it's just a question i have gotten after browsing articles, reddit and so on. Seems like some people have been spending hours on just downloading all they can since the rumours started. I have never been that much into online playing and buying digital games (physcial or iso's for me) so I don't fully understand what's what here I guess.

 

[Yo_Yo]

If PSN on PS3 is shutting down, what about udates, patches, DLC's and so on, for physical games?

I believe it is still unclear and unofficial. It never hurts to be prepared though. I think it's possible though. The new store is already set up with only ps4 and ps5. All they have to do is pull the plug. I would guess that would be everything besides updates, but they could pull that plug too if they wanted. Each update page has a titlepatch status="alive". They would just have to kill that part theoretically.

I wouldn't worry too much. I found the update screen is usually bypassable. However, who wants to play Skyrim on a ps3 without updates?

I haven't got the disk space (or time, probably) to install them all at once, and even if I did, there's still the question about future purchases of used games then, I guess.

You could backup updates to your PC if you wanted with Aldos tools too to be safe of all the games you have and the ones you are interested in if you are that worried.

 

[wk1207]

I believe it is still unclear and unofficial. It never hurts to be prepared though. I think it's possible though. The new store is already set up with only ps4 and ps5. All they have to do is pull the plug. I would guess that would be everything besides updates, but they could pull that plug too if they wanted. Each update page has a titlepatch status="alive". They would just have to kill that part theoretically.

I wouldn't worry too much. I found the update screen is usually bypassable. However, who wants to play Skyrim on a ps3 without updates?

That's what I mean, it seems kinda far fetched but you never know right. Seems as for some games it could mess it up a bit if they pulled the plugg on all that. Since theres no backwards compabilty for PS3 games anywhere, I'm not willing to let go of that machine any time soon.
Now I'm just glad I never got into the digital copies from PS Store thing, that would have been way worse with these news.

You could backup updates to your PC if you wanted with Aldos tools too to be safe of all the games you have and the ones you are interested in if you are that worried.

I'll look into that, seems easier then doing it all at once through the PS3. Really appreciated the fast and clear reply. Thanks a lot!

 

[Berion]

No updates means also no DLC, not only bug fixing (in some cases even critical like i.e "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow" which deleting saves).

It is wise to download all needed updates for all Your games because one day those consoles and PC will be for sure cut off from servers. I did it few years ago and looks like it was wise decision because some updates are already unavailable...

 

[wk1207]

You could backup updates to your PC if you wanted with Aldos tools too to be safe of all the games you have and the ones you are interested in if you are that worried.

No updates means also no DLC, not only bug fixing (in some cases even critical like i.e "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow" which deleting saves).

It is wise to download all needed updates for all Your games because one day those consoles and PC will be for sure cut off from servers. I did it few years ago and looks like it was wise decision because some updates are already unavailable...

And, just to be clear, and show how little I know: The method of downloading lots of updates to a PC, and transfer to a PS3 is only an option for a CFW PS3? Or is it possible with an original (never exploited) PS3 as well?

 

[pinky]

I bought a 1TB hdd for my super slim, which I should have by Friday. I hope I can put it to good use. since I don't have to pick up the system, kinda, I'm going to buy discs instead of using psn. I'll get the updates and dlc though. next month, I'll buy all the costumes for tales of graces f, my only physical game (for when I get it which might be a week or more).

 

[Berion]

Exploited or not, all PS3 downloading the same data in the same form, as on PC. Problem with unhacked PS3 is that there is no way to retrieve packages from theirs HDD, the same as installing them (on OFW install can be made by man in the middle attack but this is a lot of hassle).

Just download all packages on PC, and store them in safe place. Currently all PS3 firmwares can be hacked for at least HEN (which also allow You access to all data on HDD and eFlash/VFLASH). So if You are on OFW, just do not install new firmware when it(if) appears before reading i.e here on psx-place.com if it's exploitable (to not accidentally close for Yourself a hack window opportunity).

 

[pinky]

And, just to be clear, and show how little I know: The method of downloading lots of updates to a PC, and transfer to a PS3 is only an option for a CFW PS3? Or is it possible with an original (never exploited) PS3 as well?

can't install pkgs with a never exploited ps3, but the download links are the same as the system. you can update on the system itself, at least for now. game updates occur from within the game from what I remember, while system updates will occur on the xmb when selecting the game.

 

[Yo_Yo]

And, just to be clear, and show how little I know: The method of downloading lots of updates to a PC, and transfer to a PS3 is only an option for a CFW PS3? Or is it possible with an original (never exploited) PS3 as well?

Yes you would need a jailbreak as far as I know. I know that someone is probably making a script to mass download updates. There is one other option besides Aldos tools:

I didn't mention it because I tested dropping over 200 Game id's into it and it skipped over a handful. However, Aldos tools has a similar problem with a few game folders disappearing after downloading. As I described here:

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/strange-problems-when-downloading-game-updates.33138/

It's a pain collecting them all. But @DeViL303 volunteered Thomas Jefferson to make a repo. So that might be a thing too.