PS3 webMAN MOD 1.47.34 - New XMB / Startup enhancements from Aldostools in this update.

LuanTeles · Feb 21, 2021

pinky said:
I'm not too well versed on hen, but can gameboots work with it considering there's a sprx edit? I think I read that it only affects sound, but I'm talking out of my element here.

Just a custom_render.rco edit is enough ( adding the gameboot animation script), for the sounds the game_ext_plugin.sprx needs to be patchead as you know.( i use your patched one) and placing the gameboot.ac3 files, but since hen doesn't support unsigned sprx it can only be enabled on hen via remaps.

I added the remap on the hen payload but it can also be enabled via webMAN Mod using webcommands. autoexec.bat or boot_init.txt.

Agrippa · Feb 21, 2021

aldostools said:
Thank you for your feedback. This regression should be fixed if you download and install again.

Thank you aldo! It works when I add the licence number in the brackets. If there is no licence number in the file name it does not work however. When it comes to the PS3 covers, the licence number is retrieved regardless if such number is in the ISO file name or not. Is it a proper behaviour?

aldostools · Feb 21, 2021

Agrippa said:
Thank you aldo! It works when I add the licence number in the brackets. If there is no licence number in the file name it does not work. When it comes to the PS3 covers, the licence number is retrieved regardless if such number is in the ISO file name or not.

Thank you for your feedback. In the case of PS3, the Title_ID is located in a static offset in the ISO. If the Title_ID is not provided in the file name, it can be easily retrieved from the ISO,

In the case of PS2/PSX it can be retrieved too but the process is harder, because it requires open the ISO, find the location of the offset for the root directory, scan the root directory for the entry SYSTEM.CNF, find the offset of the data the file, parse the content of SYSTEM.CNF to find the cdrom: entry, then get the Title_ID from name executable.

All these steps have a big impact in the scanning time and the code. Therefore I decided to not add this feature.

LuanTeles · Feb 21, 2021

@aldostools here are some gameboots and sounds

aldostools · Feb 22, 2021

LuanTeles said:
@aldostools here are some gameboots and sounds

@LuanTeles @DeViL303
I've implemented the gameboot randomizer in webMAN MOD. However there are some issues:
1- I didn't get the sound working, even if I copied the .ac3 files to /dev_blind/vsh/resource
Are these .ac3 muted? Or should I put them in another path? Does it require game_ext_plugin.sprx patched?

2- The custom_render_plugin.rco only works after reload XMB once. It looks like the custom_render_plugin.sprx is loaded before webMAN plugin, so remapping the rco file doesn't work until the second time a game is booted.

3- To avoid this issue I tested replacing the rco and ac3 in /dev_blind but it was causing hypervisor panic. So now it's only remapping the path of the files in memory.

The path for the random gameboots is /dev_hdd0/tmp/gameboot
It should contains sub-folders named 1, 2, 3, etc. each containing the custom_render_plugin.rco and the 2 ac3. The preview files 1.png, 2.png, etc. should be copied in /dev_hdd0/tmp/gameboot

The new web command /gameboot.ps3 and has the same syntax used for /wallpaper.ps3

You can download the new build from github, brewology or using the built-in updater.

pinky · Feb 22, 2021

afaik, game_ext_plugin.sprx must be patched for audio, @aldostools .

pinky · Feb 22, 2021

@aldostools , the patch to that file is in my gameboot tutorial. it's just one line from what I remember in hex. @LuanTeles mentioned something about remapping the file to get it to work on hen. maybe something like that will work.

aldostools · Feb 22, 2021

pinky said:
@aldostools , the patch to that file is in my gameboot tutorial. it's just one line from what I remember in hex. @LuanTeles mentioned something about remapping the file to get it to work on hen. maybe something like that will work.

Thanks for the info. That kind of stuff should be resolved by the implementer of the XMB mod.
That is: install the patch in /dev_blind for CFW or remap the sprx for HEN.

webMAN MOD only remaps the resource assuming that the system supports it.

pinky · Feb 22, 2021

I haven't kept in touch with new things in the scene in years, so I wasn't sure how it all worked now. I think all of my ps3 tutorials are probably now obsolete. lol

fredyfartas · Feb 22, 2021

Can you make the webman show the covers of the games a little bigger? If yes, can someone explain it to me to do it? Thank you

Coro · Feb 22, 2021

fredyfartas said:
Can you make the webman show the covers of the games a little bigger? If yes, can someone explain it to me to do it? Thank you

here is webman commands thread. there is some info in the "covers" tab.

aldostools · Feb 22, 2021

fredyfartas said:
Can you make the webman show the covers of the games a little bigger? If yes, can someone explain it to me to do it? Thank you

In theory it is possible, but it has an issue. Let me explain it:

The icons in XMBML use an attribute named "icon_notation" that defines the dimensions of the image. If the attribute is omitted, it uses the dimensions of ICON0.PNG (320x176). If I recall correctly it uses "WNT_XmbItemAlbum".

The problem with this layout is that the icon is a horizontal rectangle. The PS3 covers are vertical rectangles (semi-squared). In this layout the covers are completely deformed (twice wider).

To mitigate this issue, webMAN uses the icon notation "WNT_XmbItemSavePS3" that is squared. The PS1 covers are perfect square, but PS3 covers are still deformed. However as they are semi-squared, the deformation is barely noticeable. However the icons in this notation are smaller.

In summary, you can have bigger icons but they will be deformed or you should re-make your covers to add transparent padding to avoid the deformation. And you will end with almost the same result.

LuanTeles · Feb 23, 2021

aldostools said:
@LuanTeles @DeViL303
I've implemented the gameboot randomizer in webMAN MOD. However there are some issues:
1- I didn't get the sound working, even if I copied the .ac3 files to /dev_blind/vsh/resource
Are these .ac3 muted? Or should I put them in another path? Does it require game_ext_plugin.sprx patched?

2- The custom_render_plugin.rco only works after reload XMB once. It looks like the custom_render_plugin.sprx is loaded before webMAN plugin, so remapping the rco file doesn't work until the second time a game is booted.

3- To avoid this issue I tested replacing the rco and ac3 in /dev_blind but it was causing hypervisor panic. So now it's only remapping the path of the files in memory.

The path for the random gameboots is /dev_hdd0/tmp/gameboot
It should contains sub-folders named 1, 2, 3, etc. each containing the custom_render_plugin.rco and the 2 ac3. The preview files 1.png, 2.png, etc. should be copied in /dev_hdd0/tmp/gameboot

The new web command /gameboot.ps3 and has the same syntax used for /wallpaper.ps3

You can download the new build from github, brewology or using the built-in updater.

@aldostools i think something is off here, aren't the sounds to match the gameboots, since they are in the same folder?

I have some reports:

1 - The first coldboot will remain the same as the one installed ( it's ok and you already told it) but the sound will come from the next coldboot logo.

2- The second coldboot will follow the first item, it will show the logo of the remaped gameboot sound that played in the first time and have the next gameboot in the list sound.

3 - The random algorithm seems broken, i have 10 gameboots and it will always shows the same in every startup ( the same 3 every time even if i reboot the console or delete the wm_config.bin and reboot).

4 - The gameboot seems to got stuck in the 3-4 gameboot, it will only show the same logo and sound ( some times the sound changes, but the logo will be the same).

*The gameboot are always the 3,5,6 and 7 but only 3 of the logos will show.
i tried about 30 times, the others never got remaped

LuanTeles · Feb 23, 2021

@aldostools seems like the random algorithm is broken in other things too, e.g coldboot sound i have 30 and i'm having very few randomized, a lot of times the same sound is beeing played

aldostools · Feb 23, 2021

LuanTeles said:
@aldostools seems like the random algorithm is broken in other things too, e.g coldboot sound i have more than 50 and i'm having very few randomized, a lot of times the same sound is beeing played

The algorithm is a "pseudo" randomizer based in the clock. Not in a random function.
It always generates a "random" number between 0 and 255 (nTick.tick % 0x100);
If the picked number is not found, the value is divided by 2 and checked again until one is found.

The randomizer does not guarantee a balanced distribution of the selected numbers.
To increase the probability of find certain files, you can duplicate some folders.
If they are copied from another HDD0 folder, they will be shadow copies that use less disk space.

About the issue with the "next" sound, the 3 files are mapped using the same id.
As I mentioned the selected rco is cached until the next gameboot.

I released it only to show you how it behaves. I'm thinking in deprecate the random gameboot feature.

fredyfartas · Feb 23, 2021

aldostools said:
In theory it is possible, but it has an issue. Let me explain it:

The icons in XMBML use an attribute named "icon_notation" that defines the dimensions of the image. If the attribute is omitted, it uses the dimensions of ICON0.PNG (320x176). If I recall correctly it uses "WNT_XmbItemAlbum".

The problem with this layout is that the icon is a horizontal rectangle. The PS3 covers are vertical rectangles (semi-squared). In this layout the covers are completely deformed (twice wider).

To mitigate this issue, webMAN uses the icon notation "WNT_XmbItemSavePS3" that is squared. The PS1 covers are perfect square, but PS3 covers are still deformed. However as they are semi-squared, the deformation is barely noticeable. However the icons in this notation are smaller.

In summary, you can have bigger icons but they will be deformed or you should re-make your covers to add transparent padding to avoid the deformation. And you will end with almost the same result.

ok, thanks for the explanation, I understand that they are already maximized, the best possible, good job

LuanTeles · Feb 23, 2021

aldostools said:
The algorithm is a "pseudo" randomizer based in the clock. Not in a random function.
It always generates a "random" number between 0 and 255 (nTick.tick % 0x100);
If the picked number is not found, the value is divided by 2 and checked again until one is found.

The randomizer does not guarantee a balanced distribution of the selected numbers.
To increase the probability of find certain files, you can duplicate some folders.
If they are copied from another HDD0 folder, they will be shadow copies that use less disk space.

About the issue with the "next" sound, the 3 files are mapped using the same id.
As I mentioned the selected rco is cached until the next gameboot.

I released it only to show you how it behaves. I'm thinking in deprecate the random gameboot feature.

Got it.

i liked the gameboot feature if it can be fixed to proper use the same sound and the logo, it would be very appreciated.

DeViL303 · Feb 23, 2021

LuanTeles said:
Got it.

i liked the gameboot feature if it can be fixed to proper use the same sound and the logo, it would be very appreciated.

The logo is only updated on next boot due to the fact that the rco is already loaded, so just arrange your files correctly and it will work the way you want.

LuanTeles · Feb 23, 2021

DeViL303 said:
The logo is only updated on next boot due to the fact that the rco is already loaded, so just arrange your files correctly and it will work the way you want.

But how? i couldn't think in a proper way since they are random.

Aldo said that the 3 files are mapped using the same ID, so after the first run that does not match, the next one should match the gameboot logo and sound right?

But it doesn't seem to be the case, even after the first run the logo and sounds rarely matches each other.

I was thinking if webman could load the 0 folder first ( having the same gameboot and sounds as the dev_blind) and then start to "randomize"

EDIT:

Oh now i got it, they will not match because the custom_render of the remap will only be loaded in the next reload and the sound will be instantly loaded, i was thinking about it only in the first run.

EDIT 2:

@DeViL303 @aldostools in this case the only way to "fix" it, is to remapped one after the other as the first builds, folder 1, then folder 2 and so on

DeViL303 · Feb 23, 2021

LuanTeles said:
@DeViL303 @aldops3 in this case the only way to "fix" it, is to remapped one after the other as the first builds, folder 1, then folder 2 and so on

Yeah, you are right, it would need to be a set order rather than random. Then you would arrange the files so that the rco is always one step ahead of the audio.

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